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And what is your grading system based on, last game, some games, a specific game, specific games, all games or...?
 
Centerstream said:
And what is your grading system based on, last game, some games, a specific game, specific games, all games or...?
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Who cares? LOL! Kidding, sort of. I think his point is just that they both have worked hard and improved tremendously.

It's a treat to watch what Anna is capable of, and she's just scratching the surface. Aubrey is learning to harness her incredible athleticism and as she improves her jumper, will become even more dangerous. I love our freshmen. Wish we had more like them. Next year we will!! ;)
 
Are you grading on a curve? I would give them both Bs. Unless they help lead us into the FF then of course A.
 
EricLA said:
Who cares? LOL! Kidding, sort of. I think his point is just that they both have worked hard and improved tremendously.

It's a treat to watch what Anna is capable of, and she's just scratching the surface. Aubrey is learning to harness her incredible athleticism and as she improves her jumper, will become even more dangerous. I love our freshmen. Wish we had more like them. Next year we will!! ;)
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If any of you are looking for a serious evaluation, Here it is;

1. Ania has shocked me with how good a basketball player she is. Coach finally made the move yesterday, and put her in the starting line-up. She is definitely an "A" based upon; she is a freshman starting for UCONN, she passes better than anyone on the team ( 11 assists yesterday); has a deadly 3 point shot ( when she can set her feet and line it up ); is outstanding on the break; is an aggressive rebounder and defender; and has a high basketball IQ.

2. Aubrey is a C+. A great athlete who would excel at almost any sport. She is a basketball player of important, but limited value. She has earned all her accolades because of her ability to out leap and outrun most of her competition in HS. But she is not a good shooter and, in my view, unlikely ever to become one. Did you see her one shot two games ago? ( missed the entire backboard area) ; did you see her one shot yesterday? ( about a foot to the left of the rim ). Have you noticed her unease at the foul line? ( in her HS career, she was only a 65% free throw shooter ). At this moment, Geno is using her exactly how she can add value; as an off the bench " sixth player." She can defend, rebound, disrupt and create turnovers. She can change the energy and momentum of a game, for a brief burst of time. She has not shown a great ability
to " finish " when around the rim, unless she is unchallenged. That will improve, as she learns better timing and the use of " head pumps" and the like. And she has been slow ( vs. Ania) to show a command of the UCONN offense. Don't get me wrong; she is a valuable asset, and will contribute a lot to balanced UCONN teams. But she is not likely to ever be a starter, and noteworthy of an A rating at this point. I love watching her, except when I have to grimace as she blows a lay-up.
 
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I believe that this was the first conference game that Anna started and with only six games left she will only start at most five more games. If this is so then if she keeps playing like she did in yesterdays game she should end up with the sixth player award in the AAC and maybe the FOY.
 
Aubrey is exceptional athletic player but no one has ever shown her how to shoot with consistent form a basketball in traffic or just shooting three's or foul shooting. Once your 18, it to late to learn how to shoot.
 
Dabber's grading system would have gotten me out of reform school and into college. I would give a B+ to Anna and a b to Aubrey. Aubrey just needs to get better at putting the ball through the hoop to catch Anna however.
 
Longtime fan said:
If any of you are looking for a serious evaluation, Here it is;

2. Aubrey is a C+. A great athlete who would excel at almost any sport. She is a basketball player of important, but limited value. She has earned all her accolades because of her ability to out leap and outrun most of her competition in HS. But she is not a good shooter and, in my view, unlikely ever to become one. Did you see her one shot two games ago? ( missed the entire backboard area) ; did you see her one shot yesterday? ( about a foot to the left of the rim ). Have you noticed her unease at the foul line? ( in her HS career, she was only a 65% free throw shooter ).
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nope.............that Aubrey can't shoot at all..........

 
bantamlaker said:
Are you sure of that ?
Kelly Faris : FG Pct Freshman 38.2 Senior 53.0
3 pt FG Pct Freshman 27.0 Senior 41.5
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No. He does not know what he is talking about. Ask oldude. Griffin needs to get stronger and improve her handle. The fact she missed a shot badly, Megan and Anna shot air balls in the Memphis game. That happens to most players. I don't know why some think Griffin should be able to grasp the UConn system as a freshman when others have had similar problems. Anyone making a matter of fact statement about what a player will not accomplish sounds like those who said all Kyla and Molly will ever be are mop up players and will never start. Well, they are not stars but they have been valuable to UConn in their senior season.
 
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Been meaning to ask. Does UConn have a designated shooting coach (including FTs)? Shea works with guards, but I don't recall she was a particularly good shooter. I know CD is responsible for the bigs but I figured it was positioning and defense more than shooting. Which I would imagine Jamelle does as well. I'm wondering if it is common practice in D1 women's bball to have a shooting coach. Wonder how they train the 3 pt shooters at DePaul. On the other hand watching some SEC teams (not SC), they might be unaware of the concept.
 
INC although the SC game will definitely provide more data, especially on Anna. She will be a significant focus of the SC defense. I am really curious to see how she does.
 
Shea was a very good FT shooter and decent generally.
 
wbball novice said:
Been meaning to ask. Does UConn have a designated shooting coach (including FTs)? Shea works with guards, but I don't recall she was a particularly good shooter. I know CD is responsible for the bigs but I figured it was positioning and defense more than shooting. Which I would imagine Jamelle does as well. I'm wondering if it is common practice in D1 women's bball to have a shooting coach. Wonder how they train the 3 pt shooters at DePaul. On the other hand watching some SEC teams (not SC), they might be unaware of the concept.
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I'm not sure if there is a designated shooting coach at UConn...............many of the players have private coaches that they work out with over the summers where many adjustments to their shooting and offensive moves/tactics take place.........
 
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Longtime fan said:
If any of you are looking for a serious evaluation, Here it is;

1. Ania has shocked me with how good a basketball player she is. Coach finally made the move yesterday, and put her in the starting line-up. She is definitely an "A" based upon; she is a freshman starting for UCONN, she passes better than anyone on the team ( 11 assists yesterday); has a deadly 3 point shot ( when she can set her feet and line it up ); is outstanding on the break; is an aggressive rebounder and defender; and has a high basketball IQ.

2. Aubrey is a C+. A great athlete who would excel at almost any sport. She is a basketball player of important, but limited value. She has earned all her accolades because of her ability to out leap and outrun most of her competition in HS. But she is not a good shooter and, in my view, unlikely ever to become one. Did you see her one shot two games ago? ( missed the entire backboard area) ; did you see her one shot yesterday? ( about a foot to the left of the rim ). Have you noticed her unease at the foul line? ( in her HS career, she was only a 65% free throw shooter ). At this moment, Geno is using her exactly how she can add value; as an off the bench " sixth player." She can defend, rebound, disrupt and create turnovers. She can change the energy and momentum of a game, for a brief burst of time. She has not shown a great ability
to " finish " when around the rim, unless she is unchallenged. That will improve, as she learns better timing and the use of " head pumps" and the like. And she has been slow ( vs. Ania) to show a command of the UCONN offense. Don't get me wrong; she is a valuable asset, and will contribute a lot to balanced UCONN teams. But she is not likely to ever be a starter, and noteworthy of an A rating at this point. I love watching her, except when I have to grimace as she blows a lay-up.
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I agree with everything you said except I would say AG is a fantastic athlete who plays basketball but not a basketball player
 
Griffin can shoot, I have seen her in high school, so no worries .. and her shooting form on free throws is fine. During the off-season, her father will work on her faults, in particular, getting blocked on put-backs .. next season, she'll be a new woman! :)
 
I checked on the UConn site for coaches' backgrounds. Jasmine Lister has worked with 2 teams that had outstanding shooters.

"Prior to returning to Storrs, Lister helped DePaul to a 27-8 overall record in 2017-18, including the BIG EAST regular season and tournament titles and an NCAA Tournament appearance. The Blue Demons led the nation in three-point field goals per game and were second nationally in total three-point field goals made and three-point attempts. The team’s 422 total three pointers were the most in program history.

Before her time with the Blue Demons, Lister spent the 2016-17 as an assistant coach at Washington. The West Coast Huskies went 29-6 and advanced to the Sweet 16. Kelsey Plum and Chantel Osahor were named WBCA All-Americans while Plum won the Wade Trophy and Wooden Award."

My guess would be she did some coaching for shooters on UConn.
 
Look, Anna is potentially good enough to end up on the wall. If we give her an A now what grade do we give her as a senior? I also wouldn’t write Aubrey off. Anna was mature enough to overcome early problems, Aubrey isn’t but that doesn’t mean it is all over for her. She misses free throws because she’s afraid she’s going to miss free throws. Anna throws impossible passes because she thinks she can do the impossible. Against Memphis the impossible didn’t become possible, it became routine. And, yes, Aubrey misses a lot of layups, as in A LOT of layups, but she is frequently giving several inches in height. Do not count her out.
 
Dokey said:
Look, Anna is potentially good enough to end up on the wall. If we give her an A now what grade do we give her as a senior? I also wouldn’t write Aubrey off. Anna was mature enough to overcome early problems, Aubrey isn’t but that doesn’t mean it is all over for her. She misses free throws because she’s afraid she’s going to miss free throws. Anna throws impossible passes because she thinks she can do the impossible. Against Memphis the impossible didn’t become possible, it became routine. And, yes, Aubrey misses a lot of layups, as in A LOT of layups, but she is frequently giving several inches in height. Do not count her out.
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You give AM an A / A- as a frosh. Next year is a different year. See what she builds on (or hopefully doesn't regress or stay the same.) then grade her accordingly as a soph independent of her frosh year. IMO she is a top-tier freshman. Thus the A- grade.
 
B+ for "0 for America" and B- for AG. AG is shooting 50% from the field and 55% from the line! Imagine what she could do if she learned how to shoot consistently..
 
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Jingo said:
Griffin can shoot, I have seen her in high school, so no worries .. and her shooting form on free throws is fine. During the off-season, her father will work on her faults, in particular, getting blocked on put-backs .. next season, she'll be a new woman! :)
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Her being so frequently blocked on putbacks is mystifying to me, given her amazing vertical and quick ups. Why does it happen? I am genuinely perplexed, and value your opinion as a basketball lifer (when you are not stuck in the self-created role of Ossining Homer ;)).
 
Given it’s beyond the midway point and given both are freshman that have been asked to do a lot, I’d give them each an A-. Obviously the consistency comes with more practice, conditioning, learning the system, building confidence, etc. But given that they’ve shown up in games more and more as the season comes along, I’d have to say they are priming themselves for fantastic sophomore years (and yes I realize there’s still plenty of basketball left to play this season). The only thing that’s holding them back from “A” or “A+” status is that they have been too tentative in big games (again, that comes with more reps against better teams, though Aubrey guarding Cox and Hebard (and Anna on Hebard as well) shows they’ve got the grit to have storied careers at UConn.
 
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I am not going to assign any grades unless "Incomplete" is a grade. I agree that their potential is unknown but looking very good. What I would want to see is some kind of consistency over the course of several games. For instance, remember Aubrey's Seton Hall game and most of us going Bananas over that performance? Has she had any game close to that since? I would not expect a duplicate game but just something close to it offensively, with good defense thrown in. Same thing for Anna, consistency in her all around game that we all have seen her do, just do it over the course of the rest of the season.
Don't get me wrong, I am glad that we can count on them but I also believe that if they are consistently good, it takes the pressure off of everyone. Just like if the other players on the court are going good and the freshman are too, then this team is way better heading into March and April.
That's all.
 
Crossover said:
Her being so frequently blocked on putbacks is mystifying to me, given her amazing vertical and quick ups. Why does it happen? I am genuinely perplexed, and value your opinion as a basketball lifer (when you are not stuck in the self-created role of Ossining Homer ;)).
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Yes .. AG does not know how to "hide" the ball on putbacks which she didn't need to do in high school .. her father will straighten her out over the summer.
And no, i m not an Ossining 'homer' .. rather, i m a Christ the King homer where my two daughters played! haha
Ossining is not quite in the same league as CK who has 15 or so NY State titles, eh?
 
Jingo said:
Yes .. AG does not know how to "hide" the ball on putbacks which she didn't need to do in high school .. her father will straighten her out over the summer.
And no, i m not an Ossining 'homer' .. rather, i m a Christ the King homer where my two daughters played! haha
Ossining is not quite in the same league as CK who has 15 or so NY State titles, eh?
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Got it. Thus far, she has not had to deploy deception. No matter how great her vertical, on the way up she is vulnerable.

Yep, Ossining is no Christ the King. Although other national powerhouses have arisen in recent years, CTK still owns New York.
 
Jingo said:
Yes .. AG does not know how to "hide" the ball on putbacks which she didn't need to do in high school .. her father will straighten her out over the summer.
And no, i m not an Ossining 'homer' .. rather, i m a Christ the King homer where my two daughters played! haha
Ossining is not quite in the same league as CK who has 15 or so NY State titles, eh?
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I would like to add that she also doesn't ball fake or head fake on put backs for the same reason which is that she didn't have to in high school. She also doesn't shoot a baby jumper on those put backs where Meg does. The baby jumper or double pump is much harder to block because it is way more difficult for a defender to time the shot. I also think that she is a very "young" freshman and what you see this year is not what you will see next year.
 
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