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Great win. I’m starting to see some real growth and you can see in the Illinois and Houston games we game up a score short from taking the win. One more very winnable game against ECU. A 3 win team this season would be great improvement from last.

Holy gypsum this is sketchy thinking. The win against UMass was great, but let's not pretend we're a couple of plays short of a 5 win team. We are miles from winning 5 games.
 
And at the end of the day that’s what it is about. Glad they got to celebrate a win.
If that was the case, they shouldn't charge admission, sell concessions, and grown ups should stop discussing the ins and outs of every little detail of the program on the Internet.

I'm glad the players get to build on their confidence, but I'm happier that I get to celebrate a win. I feel better about where I spend my entertainment dollar and that my season ticket investment isn't going to total waste.

I'm also not totally embarrassed about my Husky pumpkin carving.
 
Holy gypsum this is sketchy thinking. The win against UMass was great, but let's not pretend we're a couple of plays short of a 5 win team. We are miles from winning 5 games.

Amen. I’m attributing some of the irrational exuberance to the fact that folks have lost their ability for rational thinking after losing so many straight.
 
It all comes crashing down on Friday night. But the following two games have definite possibilities ....
 
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Not sure how much they would have helped as even when they were on field the defense has been a sieve.
Morgan may have played, but missing guys who otherwise would have played minimally would have helped in depth, options, etc
 
Kids have to feel really good right now.
They do, and part of it has to do with the commitment to the progeam and the 2020 schedule. They’re psyched. It matters.
Couple that with the win and JZ’s improving command and control (which the players have bought into) and it means we have a bounce in our step again. The Navy game should be very competitive. Winning is no longer just a pipe dream.
 
Still think we could use a bigger back to help with blocking and get that important 2-3 yards in a pile. It didn't show up against an undersized UMass defense but has been an issue when we go up against legit D1 linemen. Happy with the result yesterday. More because Jack and the receivers got a lot more reps and experience in the passing game. Gets him out of any shell-shocked mindset and closer to just managing the games and making good decisions. He keeps having the occasional WTF moment but with more film to look at he'll reduce those bad decisions.

Better QB. Better Blocking. Solid RB's. Talented young receivers getting experience.
Jury is still out on Giuffre as OC as we live through his on the job training. Now with the new schedules coming we'll see if RE can recruit off of them.

We need more than the rare win and with Benedict so wrapped in the transition and scheduling he's got to be hoping RE can right the ship starting now so he doesn't have to take on a coaching search to boot. I don't think RE is a long term answer, but in fairness and for us to at least give an image of stability he probably gets a 4th year. A good coach and staff can turn around a program and even make it competitive even without a bunch of 3,4,5 * guys and that is the next most important priority after RE is done. If we can't get another win this year it's a possibility he goes but it will probably be about getting close to .500 next year. 5 wins and some decent recruiting has to be the minimum. If you're DB you have to say I'm holding up my end now the Coach needs to show results.
 
I don't think it is so much the joy of beating an eminently beatable team as much as the absence of being miserable after either losing to an eminently beatable team or being crushed by a better one.
 
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They do, and part of it has to do with the commitment to the progeam and the 2020 schedule. They’re psyched. It matters.
Couple that with the win and JZ’s improving command and control (which the players have bought into) and it means we have a bounce in our step again. The Navy game should be very competitive. Winning is no longer just a pipe dream.

I love the enthusiasm, I really do, but if there is an opponent where play at LB is more important, I can’t think of who it is. Navy will run wild on us.
 
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I love the enthusiasm, I really do, but if there is an opponent where play at LB is more important, I can’t think of who it is. Navy will run wild on us.
This worries me too.
 
We could certainly use a couple JUCO linebackers or a grad transfer in next year's class. I know everyone is coming back but we need more depth at linebacker.


I actually think they can use another defensive tackle or two. They are light inside which would help the linebackers flow freely and make tackles closer to the line of scrimmage or shoot the gap to make the stop behind the line.
I think a year of weights would help Jackson out and Swenson staying in one position for a change
 
Navy will run wild on us.
Understood. And likely. But our offense should be able to move the ball. Our play calling has improved. Now we’re also executing much better. I like our chances.
 
Does anybody know what the deal is with TJ Gardner? He's the most prototypical LB (even tho he switched to DL) we have and he is MIA..
 
Our play calling has improved. Now we’re also executing much better.

I’m not sure if this is the case, or if it just seems that way because we played against the team that was woefully inept at stopping the run. Was it improved offense, or the perfect storm of Randy’s same old offense against a pretty bad UMass team?
 
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They won, can't people enjoy this one day before the usual kiljoys come out to pisss on it
Maybe if the game hadn't had a turnover every 30 seconds early on that set the tone. And they hadn't allowed 35 points to the worst team in the nation. The passing accuracy is starting to come though. That 50 yarder was a thing of beauty on a very nice trajectory.
 
Maybe if the game hadn't had a turnover every 30 seconds early on that set the tone. And they hadn't allowed 35 points to the worst team in the nation. The passing accuracy is starting to come though. That 50 yarder was a thing of beauty on a very nice trajectory.

We beat an FBS team by 3 touchdowns with a freshman quarterback. That's what happened. There's no reason to make more of it, but there is most certainly no reason to make less of it...
 
Maybe if the game hadn't had a turnover every 30 seconds early on that set the tone. And they hadn't allowed 35 points to the worst team in the nation. The passing accuracy is starting to come though. That 50 yarder was a thing of beauty on a very nice trajectory.


admit it, you just like to complain.

Some people will complain no matter what, especially when they don't like the coach.
 
I'm not going to say that we are going on a 10 game win streak, but the U game was a great win. 3 wins? Maybe...if we can beat ECU we'll win an AAC game, too.
 
It’s nice to be nearing good enough that we could surprise someone. Illinois is not good and they beat Wisconsin. We’ve been so bad you really couldn’t even hope to get a surprise win. It appears after the UH and UMass games that we are now good enough to make having a little hope for a win seem less insane. That’s a sobering yet pleasant feeling.
 
Our play calling has improved.
I’m not sure if this is the case.
It appears to me that we’ve been demonstrably improving In that aspect over the last few games. It’s no longer run, run, pass. The overthrows have likely overshadowed and masked the creativity of the play calls. For example the missed pass to Jay Rose v Houston. That was a new twist from the playbook. The continued maturation of our QB (JZ) will certainly help but just consider the lateral to QS and his pass to Rose for the TD vs UMass. It was not only creative—it actually worked!
 
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It appears to me that we’ve been demonstrably improving In that aspect over the last few games. It’s no longer run, run, pass. The overthrows have likely overshadowed and masked the creativity of the play calls. For example the missed pass to Jay Rose v Houston. That was a new twist from the playbook. The continued maturation of our QB (JZ) will certainly help but just consider the lateral to QS and his pass to Rose for the TD vs UMass. It was not only creative—it actually worked!

It's also a play that every midget football team runs at least once during practice just for fun. When I was coaching midgets, we ran it as the last play before sprints & dismissal of the kids back to their parents.
 
It's also a play that every midget football team runs at least once during practice just for fun. When I was coaching midgets, we ran it as the last play before sprints & dismissal of the kids back to their parents.

I always enjoy coachcap's posts on tailgating, local food etc. He’s a solid poster and I’m sure I’d like him a lot in real life. That’s said, this post was “spit my coffee all over my desk” funny. Not sure if he intended to be funny or just more snarky, but that was hilarious to me.
 
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Having just mocked the "revisionist history" thread, I am now going to offer some "revisionist future" because I am a hypocrit mostly.

There have been calls for Edsall to be fired on this board. Any sane person kinda knows that is lunacy for many reasons, but I'm here to renew a call for patience.

Here are my arguments

Lets Get Real
This is Edsall's 3rd Year. Let's be real, with no disrespect to the players recruited by Diaco, this entire program was a smoldering ruin when he got here. He had bad players, that didn't fit his system(or any system, for that matter). When he got here, we were in a conference that was actively hurting our ability to recruit, our scheduling flexibility, and our revenue potential. It was the worst possible situation as a football program. The conference both is actively derided but sneakily has good teams. That is the worst case. Ok, that is what he walked into. Then, we went independent, and are figuring that out. Randy works for a $1m salary, well below basically every other D1 coach. Not crying poor for the guy, but a nod in his favor and in favor of our budget. He has dealt with massive staff turnover during this entire process as well. You may say that's partly his fault I say . He hired some impressive people thus far, retaining them at underwater salary and conference affiliation has been a struggle. Not his fault.

Performance- Expectations vs Reality

The first question we need to ask ourselves is simple - what are our expectations? My expectation is that he can replicate Edsall 1.0 results. That is to say, that at the end of his first 3-4 recruiting classes that Edsall will have a fundamentally sound team with a few diamond in the rough-types, that will will 6-7 games a year. They will beat up on the teams they should beat up, and they will lost to the teams they should lose to. I want to be clear - I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT OUTCOME. I do not seek a world-beater for a football program. I want a team that I can justify making 6-7 trips a year to Renschler to tailgate with family and know that I will see competent, non-embarrassing football. If we steal a win here or there that we don't deserve, more power to State U. I think everyone on this board needs to think very hard about their expectations, because if they are realistic, Edsall is a safe bet to deliver with patience. If not, well, I think you need your head examined.

The second question is, relative to talent, have we performed as expected? Are we on plan? Given the fact that in years 1-2 we essentially fielded a JV team with the Varsity schedule, I'm not going to worry about W/L for this. It is what it is. I expected to get crushed, and mostly we got crushed. So let's look at my expectations for progress. 1 - Have we seemed more competent generally, fundamentally sound? I would definitely say yes. While we bottomed out on defense last year with all freshmen, I think we are showing pretty good improvement this year, particularly on the DL and CB. We aren't world-beaters, but you can see a more cohesive team, playing their keys better. Our offensive line isn't as offensive, even sometimes downright good-ish. Again I'm not even saying we are any good, but we are playing the game in a more sound way. Everything looks in order on the field. 2 - Have we built a more solid roster, with a few diamond-in-the-rough types starting to peek through? Here I think is the biggest feather in Edsall's cap. He was always a solid evaluator of talent, and his first couple recruiting classes are no exception - We've found 2 pretty good QBs in Kraszewski(sp?) and Zergiotis. Say what you want about their freshmen mistakes, but those guys showed some skills that no recruited QB has done in ...checks watch... 15 years? Travis Jones is a beast and will be an NFL draft pick. I very much enjoy what I am seeing from all of the young DEs, especially Eric Watts, Kevon Jones, and Dillon Harris. Jackson Mitchell and Jordan Morrison look good as young LBs, and I think some of the young DBs, especially guys like Keyshawn Paul and Myles Bell are just plain going to be flat good in a couple of years. On offense it looks like the young receivers have a lot of ability, espeically Cam, Maurrisea, and Jefferys. I'm not an evaluator of OLine or TE play, but we seem to be solidifying our depth there as well. In addition to the solid talent at the bottom of the pipeline, Edsall is being pretty smart about grad transfers. A solid D2 qb? check. A Starting WR from D2. check. A starting Safety and OLB via JucO? check. A player at MLB from Notre Dame? Check. He's filling holes where it makes sense to bridge the gap to the young kids.

now lets look at his history - He starts out poorly as he recruits and implements his plan - and notice that the strength of schedule in this rebuild is particularly strong, especially compared to his first stint at UConn. After building and recruiting, his teams then are solid, around .500 or just above. That's what we need!

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Ok, So here is my case - you people who want him fired are ridiculous. Edsall will not get us to another fiesta bowl, but with his methodical and detail oriented approach he can definitely deliver us what the vast majority of us seek. A competitive, respectable team that we can enjoy watching in person, tailgating before games, and maybe every couple years going to a fun bowl.

End of rant.
 
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admit it, you just like to complain.

Some people will complain no matter what, especially when they don't like the coach.
Incorrect. I describe things the way they were rather than how we all want them to be. The defense was atrocious. The offense showed a glimmer of improvement, but in two minutes of the first quarter when I tuned in there were four turnovers, two by each team. One every 30 seconds. I turned the radio off until late in the first half. Couldn't take it.

And, btw, I am on record saying UConn should keep Edsall. Remember? The NYT article? I'll dig it up if you need me to.
 
Sometimes teams play to the game situation. If they have a big lead, they’ll often let up on the defensive side. 35 points allowed to UMass is not good but their defense is much worse and we hung 56 on them.

Let’s just enjoy the W before we come crashing back to reality Friday night.
 
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