Gonzaga to join Pac-12

[UConn Dan]

Right, my bad on Hawaii. Still, do not see it making sense. If anything, maybe just have a scheduling agreement with us in the meantime? Some of those games at the Rent would be great.

Definitely not happening per story that dropped in the courant. We turned them down

 

[CL82]

And those reasons would be money, dollars, and cash.

Otherwise, the move wouldn't happen.

Conference championships, and ease of scheduling would be two other reasons, but yeah, it's mostly about the money.

 

[CL82]

Who cares…. It’s the PAC 2. Org st and wash. St and some mwc teams. It might be called the pac 12…but it’s not

We are in a conference right now that we generally considered was not the "big east" until we joined it, then it was.

 

[Brochacho]

Have very little idea why they’d consider UConn given only FB, and so far out of footprint. Only reason I can think of is some promise that if we do not land in a P4 by x date, we join across sports. And no way we want to do that with this conference.

The reason why they didn’t get the rest of the MWC schools they wanted is because those schools are too poor to pay the exit fees. If not Hawaii, they have to look to upgrade a FCS school or go outside of their footprint.

 

[superjohn]

We are in a conference right now that we generally considered was not the "big east" until we joined it, then it was.

That's a weird thing I've only seen on this board, pretending it's not the Big East or it's the Newbie or whatever silly name a couple other posters came up with.

 

[CL82]

That's a weird thing I've only seen on this board, pretending it's not the Big East or it's the Newbie or whatever silly name a couple other posters came up with.

There was no pretending about it. It was a new conference which started in 2013. Pretending that it was the same conference that we were a founding member of made little sense while we were in the American. Of course, now, it's a convenient fiction.

 

[superjohn]

There was no pretending about it. It was a new conference which started in 2013. Pretending that it was the same conference that we were a founding member of made little sense while we were in the American. Of course, now, it's a convenient fiction.

Because they waited a couple of months to buy the name, remain at MSG forever, and retain all the records?

The Big East has been around since 1979, they were still the Big East without us, they still won national championships without us, and they were still a power conference in basketball without us.

 

[Khal Drogo]

Reminder. They still need an 8th school in all sports.

I hate her

 

[CL82]

Because they waited a couple of months to buy the name, remain at MSG forever, and retain all the records?

The Big East has been around since 1979, they were still the Big East without us, they still won national championships without us, and they were still a power conference in basketball without us.

I don't want to get in a pissing contest over this, it's just not worth my time or effort. But clearly it is a new and distinct entity that was formed in 2013, no amount of revisionist history changes that fact.

The big east was formed in 1979. In 2013 seven basketball only colleges broke off informed a new conference. They purchased the name of the conference from the big east. If they were the big east, there would be no reason for them to do that right?

That said, feel free to have the last word on this issue. It's just not worth the effort.

 

[HooperScooper]

Definitely not happening per story that dropped in the courant. We turned them down

 

[HooperScooper]

Who cares…. It’s the PAC 2. Org st and wash. St and some mwc teams. It might be called the pac 12…but it’s not

All true. I only posted this because there was talk of the Big East trying to get Gonzaga.

 

[superjohn]

I don't want to get in a pissing contest over this, it's just not worth my time or effort. But clearly it is a new and distinct entity that was formed in 2013, no amount of revisionist history changes that fact.

The big east was formed in 1979. In 2013 seven basketball only colleges broke off informed a new conference. They purchased the name of the conference from the big east. If they were the big east, there would be no reason for them to do that right?

That said, feel free to have the last word on this issue. It's just not worth the effort.

Lolz, you answered my question.

 

[HuskyHawk]

All true. I only posted this because there was talk of the Big East trying to get Gonzaga.

Never made any sense. Nor did the Big XII adding them. Big East has enough members, need the schools in it to do better.

 

[superjohn]

Never made any sense. Nor did the Big XII adding them. Big East has enough members, need the schools in it to do better.

Big East has won 4 of the last 8 national championships. They do pretty well.

 

[uconngb]

Peak church league delusion? You guys peaked in 1960s.

This guy's schtick is as old as Cincy's last title

 

[CL82]

Big East has won 4 of the last 8 national championships. They do pretty well.

And five of the last 10. Of course, three of the five were us and two of the five were nova before Wright retired. So, right now, it's pretty much us.

 

[NJHusky]

We are in a conference right now that we generally considered was not the "big east" until we joined it, then it was.

Semantics aside, the big east never had 2 teams

 

[superjohn]

And five of the last 10. Of course, three of the five were us and two of the five were nova before Wright retired. So, right now, it's pretty much us.

Yes, if you take the two best programs out of the Big East they wouldn't have won 4 of the last 8 national championships. You take Kansas and Baylor out of the Big 12 and they haven't won a national championship in forever. Big 10 will have a chance to win their first national championship in 25 years this upcoming season.

Typically if you take the best programs out of their conferences they aren't winning national championships. These other conferences are monstrous in size now so maybe they'll start winning some.

 

[Waquoit]

 

[CL82]

Yes, if you take the two best programs out of the Big East they wouldn't have won 4 of the last 8 national championships. You take Kansas and Baylor out of the Big 12 and they haven't won a national championship in forever. Big 10 will have a chance to win their first national championship in 25 years this upcoming season.

Typically if you take the best programs out of their conferences they aren't winning national championships. These other conferences are monstrous in size now so maybe they'll start winning some.

Mmm, close, but not quite the point. The success of the big east is pretty much us and Villanova under Jay Wright, which no longer exists. That leaves us.

 

[uconnbill]

Not us, please God.

yes because the status quote will help UConn in the future for football and all sports.

 

[Tyler2Rings]

Who cares…. It’s the PAC 2. Org st and wash. St and some mwc teams. It might be called the pac 12…but it’s not

For football, sure. But for hoop this conference is close to or as good as the Pac 12 was in its final years

 

[superjohn]

Mmm, close, but not quite the point. The success of the big east is pretty much us and Villanova under Jay Wright, which no longer exists. That leaves us.

If you take out the best programs from conferences the conferences won't be as good anymore.

Yes, I agree with that.

 

[CL82]

If you take out the best programs from conferences the conferences won't be as good anymore.

Yes, I agree with that.

Me too, except in this case it's not best programs it's best program, us.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of the big east, but when you use our record to justify it as a conference, it's kind of meaningless.

Just my opinion.

 

[superjohn]

Me too, except in this case it's not best programs it's best program, us.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of the big east, but when you use our record to justify it as a conference, it's kind of meaningless.

Just my opinion.

Us and Villanova. Yes, UConn is a lot better than everyone else in the country now. If they aren't in the Big East of course it would hurt the Big East. Same as if Carolina and Duke weren't in the ACC. If Kansas wasn't in the Big 12.

 

[CL82]

Us and Villanova. Yes, UConn is a lot better than everyone else in the country now. If they aren't in the Big East of course it would hurt the Big East. Same as if Carolina and Duke weren't in the ACC. If Kansas wasn't in the Big 12.

Nova with Jay Wright, as the head coach doesn't exist anymore.

So pretty much you're saying, the big east is a good conference because we're there. It's true, but not particularly meaningful. It's not a justification for staying in it, because our national championships follow us wherever we go.

Now, if you're about joining different conference like the big 12, any talk about the talent it has is meaningful, because it exists whether we're a member of it or not.

 

[superjohn]

Nova with Jay Wright, as the head coach doesn't exist anymore.

So pretty much you're saying, the big east is a good conference because we're there. It's true, but not particularly meaningful. It's not a justification for staying in it, because our national championships follow us wherever we go.

Now, if you're about joining different conference like the big 12, any talk about the talent it has is meaningful, because it exists whether we're a member of it or not.

Their program is still there, they're a part of The Big East winning half of the last 8 national championships. Coach K and Roy Williams aren't at Duke and UNC anymore. Yes, Duke and UNC will bring their championships with them if and when they go to another conference. That's how it works, the programs get to keep their championships.

 

[CL82]

Their program is still there, they're a part of The Big East winning half of the last 8 national championships. Coach K and Roy Williams aren't at Duke and UNC anymore. Yes, Duke and UNC will bring their championships with them if and when they go to another conference. That's how it works, the programs get to keep their championships.

Yeah, but you can't justify our being in the big east by our being in the big east.

Sigh... nevermind.

 

[superjohn]

Yeah, but you can't justify our being in the big east by our being in the big east.

Sigh... nevermind.

We're in the Big East. I'm not justifying anything. The Big East has won 4 of the last 8 national championships. I think the league is doing pretty well. If the Big East loses their best programs the league won't be as good. Everyone would agree with that.

This isn't difficult. Every conference gets worse if they lose their best programs and don't replace them with programs of equal stature.

 

[CL82]

We're in the Big East. I'm not justifying anything. The Big East has won 4 of the last 8 national championships. I think the league is doing pretty well. If the Big East loses their best programs the league won't be as good. Everyone would agree with that.

This isn't difficult. Every conference gets worse if they lose their best programs and don't replace them with programs of equal stature.