Goners....Coaches On The Way Out

[Matt (Chicago)]

big names, could bring excitement to our program

big names? go look up Chizik's record with ISU, then look at his record at Auburn when he didnt have Cam on his team. Dooley is getting fired from an SEC school with an excellent recruiting ground...you need a serious reality check if you think either of them would be a good hire.

 

[phillionaire]

There needs to be a "Dislike" button. This (and the last) post proves it.

These guys couldnt win with programs that get the best talent in the country, and they each took over winning teams, and went the other way.

sorry that i have a different opinion than you and it offends you

 

[ibleedhuskyblue]

big names? go look up Chizik's record with ISU, then look at his record at Auburn when he didnt have Cam on his team. Dooley is getting fired from an SEC school with an excellent recruiting ground...you need a serious reality check if you think either of them would be a good hire.

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[ibleedhuskyblue]

sorry that i have a different opinion than you and it offends you

It doesnt offend me, it makes me angry.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

There needs to be a "Dislike" button. This (and the last) post proves it.

These guys couldnt win with programs that get the best talent in the country, and they each took over winning teams, and went the other way.

Huh? Chizek won a national championship three seasons ago. Recruits might be impressed with his ring. And at least their programs were losing to the Alabama's, Florida's, LSU's, Georgia's of the world . . . Not Western Michigan and Temple.

 

[spsct]

Charlie Weiss is big. He is also a big name.

If being big is a prerequisite to being a good coach, I would be Vince Lombardi.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

What would people think of Jeff Tedford as our next coach? He was never really that successful but he can develop QBs knows how to sling the ball. At least if we're losing we'll be losing in a more exciting fashion. More exciting than raking leaves.

UConn would be having a good season. The defense is already good and Tedford would have that offense in a different place. We, as fans, wouldn't recognize it, but whatever those 6 point plays are called, they sure seem handier than those exciting FGs.

 

[mattp]

I think TOB is done in NCST, getting close to retirement.

At NCST, they are finally learning what we told them when they "stole" him from us, he will churn out 7/8 win seasons once he gets his players but will never get you where you want to go.

Consistent 7/8 wins seasons are very underrated. BC was in a good place winning 7-8 games a season and making a bowl game. Then you hope every so often you bring in a guy like Doug Flutie or Matt Ryan and make a BCS Bowl. I'd sign up for that in a heart beat.

 

[YukonJake206]

Butch Davis is available.

 

[kcc1442]

Phillip Fulmer

 

[TRest]

Consistent 7/8 wins seasons are very underrated. BC was in a good place winning 7-8 games a season and making a bowl game. Then you hope every so often you bring in a guy like Doug Flutie or Matt Ryan and make a BCS Bowl. I'd sign up for that in a heart beat.

I think most BC fans would now sign up for that in a heartbeat.

 

[FDNY99]

I think it is safe to say that when P is fired...after this season or next...that it will be done shortly after the last game if not right before it...and that the contracts of the staff will most likely not be renewed until after the new HC is hired...allowing him to bring in his own staff.
I don't think you are going to see any of the guys that were on both Edsall and P's staff retained.

 

[Adios]

Bill Parcells is available.

 

[uconnell]

"Recruitsmight be impressed with his ring" was the same thing Cuse fans said about the hiring of G. Robinson.
No thank you.

 

[Matt (Chicago)]

Phillip Fulmer

Please tell me you're joking...we're going to trade one coach who should be retired for another that already is..?

 

[ktuck911]

Charlie Weiss is big. He is also a big name.

He's definitely big...rotund...

 

[ktuck911]

Butch Davis is available.

Can we convince Jimmy Johnson to come out of retirement instead?

 

[ktuck911]

Bill Parcells is available.

He'd probably do wonders with this team... The sloppy execution that is allowed by this staff he wouldn't tolerate...

 

[Marty Jackson]

Right, just like Kevin Ollie.

Thanks Brick...

Check out the BC website if you can't keep up here.

 

[Marty Jackson]

So we wait until end of year 3 and go 5-7; 3-9; 5-7 and that gives us more margin of error?

I don't think Uconn wants two consecutive coaches to be canned within their first 2-3 seasons. It would sort of scream 'come coach Uconn so we can fire your ass too'... Wouldn't really attract a lot of top-notch coaches at that point.
So that said, if we can PP after two years, we're stuck with the next coach for some time. I don't see Uconn making a long term commitment to an unproven coach with zero track-record at this level.

 

[Nostical]

I don't see Uconn making a long term commitment to an unproven coach with zero track-record at this level.

I get your point, but I guess my question is what you mean by "coach". If you mean an unproven OC or DC, I'd agree, but if you require a proven head coach, that "proven quantity" requirement for a head coach obviously wasn't followed in basketball, and that's our crown jewel. While I wasn't a big fan of hiring the never before head coach KO and I've seen too many head coach's hand picked successors flop, that doesn't mean that he won't succeed, or a currently successful football OC or DC won't work out at the next level if given a shot. Examples of not yet proven head coaching commodities that I would have loved to see here as first time head coaches: Chip Kelly, Stoops, Mullen, Muschamp, all chosen from the OC ranks. I say analyze a guy's coaching potential, check him out in a thorough vetting process and make the right fit for UConn, whether he's currently a proven head coach or not.

 

[Marty Jackson]

I get your point, but I guess my question is what you mean by "coach". If you mean an unproven OC or DC, I'd agree, but if you require a proven head coach, that "proven quantity" requirement for a head coach obviously wasn't followed in basketball, and that's our crown jewel. While I wasn't a big fan of hiring the never before head coach KO and I've seen too many head coach's hand picked successors flop, that doesn't mean that he won't succeed, or a currently successful football OC or DC won't work out at the next level if given a shot. Examples of not yet proven head coaching commodities that I would have loved to see here as first time head coaches: Chip Kelly, Stoops, Mullen, Muschamp, all chosen from the OC ranks. I say analyze a guy's coaching potential, check him out in a thorough vetting process and make the right fit for UConn, whether he's currently a proven head coach or not.

I suppose I could entertain the thought of debating what a 'proven coach' means...
But I'm not going to... If we could hire the DC from Alabama or the OC from Oregon I would think they are 'proven'...

The Kevin Ollie comparison is so different than this situation, I'm not sure why you bring it up. I will say, if Uconn hired a coach after Calhoun and they fired him after two years, I don't think they would be giving Ollie a chance (assuming he had zero head coaching experience), which was my point about the next coach after PP.

If you fire a coach after two years, it's a pretty big statement. That next coach better be as close to a sure thing as you can get. Some people might even suggest, you don't fire someone unless you have the replacement already selected.

 

[johnhuskies95]

Butch Davis is quite possibly the greatest talent evaluator in football over the last 20 years.

But he's shady as hell and his teams seemed to overachieve relative to their talent level at UNC. I don't know if he'd be able to attract that talent to UConn.

 

[huskymedic]

Butch Davis is quite possibly the greatest talent evaluator in football over the last 20 years.

But he's shady as hell and his teams seemed to overachieve relative to their talent level at UNC. I don't know if he'd be able to attract that talent to UConn.

Not without a whole course catalogue of bogus classes.