Gloves Off Now - Emmert's View of UConn Explains a Lot | The Boneyard

Gloves Off Now - Emmert's View of UConn Explains a Lot

Status
Not open for further replies.
C

Chief00

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...ct-extension/2012/01/13/gIQAoQN4wP_story.html

I have taken a lot of heat and held back on this hoping the new leadership in place at UConn would make things different. Given the double jeopardy outrage this morning and the outrageous treatment of an 18 year old black kid - the gloves are now off. If it aggravates the situation more - so be it.

The word in very high level academic circles is that Mark Emmert felt that he was not very well treated at UConn and he left not on good terms with the school or certain individuals at the school. Some of these individuals are still at the school and some are not.

Mark Emmert , who has done nothing about the serious sex scandals at Cuse & PSU, yet his investigative unit is working over-time on an 18 year black kid from Chicago who happens to attend UConn. How can you punish someone you already held out while the investigation was underway - then gave a harsh punishment to - 6 game suspension - then just before his hometown game - with 400 folks planning to be in attendance - this new supposive pre college new evidence comes up now - this is non-sense.

Why not focus some investigation on a lack of institutional leadership covering up coaches preying on child victims??? But Mark Emmert did not leave these cshools on bad terms. No grudge or scores to settle.

My suggestion is Ryan's 400 friends and supporters should protest outside NCAA HQ's on Monday. It is MLK Day and there is more work to be done. I will even join them.

And if anyone still thinks this illogical retroactive/double jeopardy 2013 APR stuff is about anything other than Mark's grudge against certain people at UConn - you are fools. Just because it is wrapped in an academic wrapper doesn't mean it is all about one man's revenge.
 
Joined
Aug 28, 2011
Messages
302
Reaction Score
108
Someone certainly does hold a grudge. Whether it's vs UConn or Boatright's AAU club remains a mystery. Could be both. If I was a kid on that AAU team I might be worried about my collegiate future.
 
C

Chief00

It really has nothing to do with Boatright - he is collateral damage being thrown to the wolves so Emmert can get his revenge on UConn and certain individuals still at UConn.
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
2,045
Reaction Score
6,621
wasnt' boatright on the D Rose allstars or something? that would also explain the extra scrutiny...
 
Joined
Aug 29, 2011
Messages
440
Reaction Score
258
Don't mean to sound stupid and also don't feel like looking it up, so what exactly is Emmert's beef with UConn?
 
C

Chief00

Wasn't a pretty exit.
Of course, the link has nothing to do with that, the point of the link is that he will be there until 2017 - so this grudge is not going away soon in INDY. It is going to be bad.

Many viewed Emmert's relationship with Calhoun as strained - while at UConn.
 
Joined
Nov 26, 2011
Messages
231
Reaction Score
372
Not usually a big conspiracy theorist guy but this one sure looks like it could have some legs to it. At a minimum the way this has played out it has maximized the damage to UCONN and to its basketball program. NCAA ship is now sailing into UCONN's port at full ramming speed.

As to suing the NCAA good luck. It would have to come from Boatright and he's not exactly an innocent party here.
 
H

huskymagic

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...ct-extension/2012/01/13/gIQAoQN4wP_story.html

I have taken a lot of heat and held back on this hoping the new leadership in place at UConn would make things different. Given the double jeopardy outrage this morning and the outrageous treatment of an 18 year old black kid - the gloves are now off. If it aggravates the situation more - so be it.

The word in very high level academic circles is that Mark Emmert felt that he was not very well treated at UConn and he left not on good terms with the school or certain individuals at the school. Some of these individuals are still at the school and some are not.

Mark Emmert , who has done nothing about the serious sex scandals at Cuse & PSU, yet his investigative unit is working over-time on an 18 year black kid from Chicago who happens to attend UConn. How can you punish someone you already held out while the investigation was underway - then gave a harsh punishment to - 6 game suspension - then just before his hometown game - with 400 folks planning to be in attendance - this new supposive pre college new evidence comes up now - this is non-sense.

Why not focus some investigation on a lack of institutional leadership covering up coaches preying on child victims??? But Mark Emmert did not leave these cshools on bad terms. No grudge or scores to settle.

My suggestion is Ryan's 400 friends and supporters should protest outside NCAA HQ's on Monday. It is MLK Day and there is more work to be done. I will even join them.

And if anyone still thinks this illogical retroactive/double jeopardy 2013 APR stuff is about anything other than Mark's grudge against certain people at UConn - you are fools. Just because it is wrapped in an academic wrapper doesn't mean it is all about one man's revenge.

The NCAA is a piece of so is Mark Emmert. Other programs get nothing for serious scandals yet they somehow have time to take out more punishment on a poor 18 year old kid from Chicago. This is an outrage. He already sat out 6 games not to mention exhibition games. That is punishment enough in itself. Down with the NCAA immediately. They should be kissing our boots for all the money and recognition we have brought in for them and college basketball.
 

cohenzone

Old Member
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
19,107
Reaction Score
23,291
There's another guy out there with some vague connection to the NCAA selection committee who probably has less than kind feelings toward UConn. Hail, Hail the Gangs All There. Ya wonder if they once in while text each other or something? I love (actually not) conspiracy theories.
 
C

Chief00

For lack of institutional control, Calhoun was punished by the NCAA and Hathaway was not. Hathaway is Chairman of a key NCAA Committee.

Ironically, some people at the BE Office in Providence think this (Emmert's grudge against certain individuals at UC) is the root of the NCAA obsessive focus on UC MB. Pretty petty stuff. Payback can be a b_t_h though.

Ryan wasn't the only guy on Jalen's Rose's brother's team - try to Google their investigations or follow-up investigations.
 

cohenzone

Old Member
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
19,107
Reaction Score
23,291
Payback that screws a kid more than anyone else is more than petty. It looks like Emmert does not want to see JC go out on any sort of white horse and of course, JH and JC hated each other. How about throwing Huggins into the conspiracy. Timing just after his team loses a tough one, with a little help from de-commit RB, and who is a guy who might have some insight into the RB background. Maybe I like conspiracy theories more than I thought.
 
Joined
Sep 16, 2011
Messages
50,279
Reaction Score
176,912
I think it's pretty clear what's happening here. No way does Huggins have anything to do with this though.
 
C

Chief00

Chief, what does the fact that Boatright os black, have to do with any of this? Why play the race card here?

I think when bureaucrats are settling scores; Ryan doesn't have much standing. He is collateral damage and the fact that Emmert is more about settling scores from a former job than treating a kid fairly - I do have a problem with that. Ryan doesn't come from a poor background - but how much consideration given this grudge - is there consideration of justice to Ryan?? - put his season on-hold, then punishment suspension, now a new halt of playing for the same pre college AAU thing - yeah I do think that's Racist or Unjust - whatever you want to call it - he is not given any rights in this process. The NCAA could care less about Ryan Boatright.
 
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
2,017
Reaction Score
7,541
I certainly think it's unfair that a kid is punished without any kind of due process. A player shouldn't have to sit, and a team shouldn't be subject to forfeits because an investigation is taking place, but race doesn't seem to have any bearing on this.

My reak concern is that UConn is looking at a junior college PG because they think the infraction is possibly much more significant than a plane ticket.
 

ctchamps

We are UConn!! 4>1 But 5>>>>1 is even better!
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
17,232
Reaction Score
43,339
I certainly think it's unfair that a kid is punished without any kind of due process. A player shouldn't have to sit, and a team shouldn't be subject to forfeits because an investigation is taking place, but race doesn't seem to have any bearing on this.

My reak concern is that UConn is looking at a junior college PG because they think the infraction is possibly much more significant than a plane ticket.
I'm glad you brought up the race factor. No need to make this into something bigger than it is. I also had concerns about the JUCO point guard in association with this RB announcement.
 
C

Chief00

We all know if most top recruits are put under this microscope - AAU plane tixs would pop up on the radar screen.

Again this isn't really about Ryan it is about where the NCAA spends its investigative resources. They have limited resources, so where they focus tells a lot about their leadership's priorities. In the meantime Cuse and PSU's Institutional leadership are untouched. Call it what you want - but it stinks under any fairness test.

I do think Ryan needs a vehicle bigger than himself to defend him against a bureaucracy in which his interest are way down on their list. Then you add the grudge in and it is bad.
 

ctchamps

We are UConn!! 4>1 But 5>>>>1 is even better!
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
17,232
Reaction Score
43,339
We are know if most top recruits are put under this microscope - AAU plane tixs would pop up on the radars.

Again this isn't really about Ryan it is about where the NCAA spends its investigative resources. They have limited resources, so where they focus tells a lot about their leadership's priorities. In the meantime Cuse and PSU's Institutional leadership are untouched. Call it what you want - but it stinks under any fairness test.

I do think Ryan needs a vehicle bigger than himself to defend him against a bureaucracy in which his interest are way down on their list. Then you add the grudge in and it is bad.
I'm in total agreement with you on this. You inadvertently included two issues - a personal vendetta certain NCAA officials had against UConn (JC) and " a black kid". I don't think race is an issue here. The vendetta part has plausibility even if it has no definitive evidence.
 
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
7,498
Reaction Score
15,682
This wouldn't be the first time the NCAA went out of their way to go after a coach. The NCAA was sued by Jerry Tarkanian in 1993 for harrassment and they settled with him in 1998 out of court for $2.5 million dollars. I'm not saying Tark was an angel by any means...BUT the NCAA ended up settling with him for $2.5 mill...that to me says they knew they were going to lose that lawsuit!
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/03/s...nd-collects-from-ncaa.html?ref=jerrytarkanian
 
C

Chief00

I agree the grudge is the main issue. What I am saying is Ryan Boatright is just a pawn and the injustice is that he is not valued. What happens to Ryan Boatright is no blimp on Emmert's radar screen - what happens to Calhoun is. Ryan can not fight this bureaucracy- is that racism of omission - maybe I should not go there - point taken - but at the same time - who is going to look out for his interest?
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
1,332
Reaction Score
1,832
What exactly is ME 's beef with UCONN? Why also emphasize the race of RB?
 

CL82

NCAA Men’s Basketball National Champions - Again!
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
59,406
Reaction Score
221,974
So what happened at UConn with this guy?
 

Fishy

Elite Premium Poster
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
18,242
Reaction Score
133,035
I think we're creating a scenario to fit the circumstance.

I would not believe the head of the NCAA is gunning for Ryan Boatright. That's too black-helicopterish for me.

But someone clearly is trying to torpedo the Boatshow. I doubt that person is in the NCAA, but someone is clearly working to try to hurt him.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Online statistics

Members online
516
Guests online
2,460
Total visitors
2,976

Forum statistics

Threads
159,765
Messages
4,203,660
Members
10,073
Latest member
CTEspn


.
Top Bottom