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Gillespie push-offs

Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
It was also really neat how they let him stay in the game with blood all over his uniform. CDC be damned!
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"Gillespie Exception"

And, btw, he didn't push off with his hands every time. Three times he lowered one shoulder, head-butted the defender's chest, and then either backed-off for a fade away or went under.

Credit him for this: he doesn't trip people, like Grayson Allen did.

I don't necessarily disagree with most of the content in this thread that is about matters other than what's in the thread title, and he does have a complete arsenal of effective moves, but I'm sure those are being discussed elsewhere.

Nova's bench is thin, but we failed in not getting Samuels and/or Moore to foul out, in addition to Gillespie's 'allowances.'
 
Hans Sprungfeld said:
"Gillespie Exception"

And, btw, he didn't push off with his hands every time. Three times he lowered one shoulder, head-butted the defenders chest, and then either backed-off for a fade away or went under.

Credit him for this: he doesn't trip people, like Grayson Allen did.

I don't necessarily disagree with most of the content in this thread that it about matters other than what's in the thread title, and he does have a complete arsenal of effective moves, but I'm sure those are being discussed elsewhere.
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Except for when he tripped Bouk...
 
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jibsey said:
Question. Why don’t we have a guy who can play like that?
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I've always wanted a 6'10" 250lb country boy that plays like that around the rim
 
Gillespie got it done for Nova, that's really all there is to it. What is his line, like 18pts, 4 rebounds, 6 assists, two turnovers maybe, 36 minutes.? He is a crafty, tough guard, not flashy, that can shoot, and is solid with the ball. He's a big reason Nova is as good as they are the past 4 years. Hate'm all you want, and I do, but props to Gillespie for being hard to play against.

I hope we see Nova again in the tournament. We will be better, and we will want some payback.
 
A good ref also stops it.

I don't blame the kid. If the refs allow it, it isn't his fault for taking advantage of the situation. He's playing tough and physical. It's not like he is eye gauging someone or tripping players like some former Duke scumbag.

Should they be fouls... yes. But the ref has to blow the whistle.
 
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The thing to do is file a compliant with the Conference and shine a big light on it.
 
millertime7774 said:
He definitely tripped Cole from behind, probably unintentional, but ended up with some woofing and minor pull apart.
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Cole does a really good job of using his body to shield his defender off once he gets past him. He intentionally slows down and walls off the defender so they can't get back in the play (he's drawn multiple fouls like this). In this instance, the intentional slow down caused an unintentional trip. It's a good skill move.
 
Son of Robert said:
Gillespie got it done for Nova, that's really all there is to it. What is his line, like 18pts, 4 rebounds, 6 assists, two turnovers maybe, 36 minutes.? He is a crafty, tough guard, not flashy, that can shoot, and is solid with the ball. He's a big reason Nova is as good as they are the past 4 years. Hate'm all you want, and I do, but props to Gillespie for being hard to play against.

I hope we see Nova again in the tournament. We will be better, and we will want some payback.
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Gillespie kept posting up and bodying our guards on offense. If the refs aren't going to call it-might as well keep doing it. Put Cole on the bench in first half with two fouls and had Gaff looking silly most of the game.

Smart enough to take what the refs were giving him. Senior leadership.
 
auror said:
What would we have done that Sanogo or Whaley didn't do.
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Lets see some inside traps, not just rushing our bigs outside to trap. At least force Nova to beat us outside and perhaps they would but let switch up, not allow the push-offs one on one side. Why weren't we on the refs to call this more??? I know Hurley is gun shy after some early games but fair is fair. Would a 3/2 zone help on occasion instead of the exact same defensive posture?
 
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Stinger92860 said:
i was saying the same thing, and then I thought, I wish he was a Husky.
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I thought that too but I hate that style of play. Slow down, pivot until you get the player to leave his feet the jump into him and draw a foul. I guess that is “a skill” but I hope we have players that don’t need to use that as their only skill.
 
Some people say Villanova “plays beautiful basketball” that doesn’t even look like basketball to me. It looks like USF’s style with better shooters
 
tjhusky said:
I thought that too but I hate that style of play. Slow down, pivot until you get the player to leave his feet the jump into him and draw a foul. I guess that is “a skill” but I hope we have players that don’t need to use that as their only skill.
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So you hate winning basketball?
 
cuz this (picture) is a defensive foul. not.
Villanova rallies to beat UConn in Big East matchup – The Athletic
in my playing experience, if not me, then another team mate, after seeing this garbage for a period or more, we just get a running start, fake trip, then knock his back to grammar school, foul, flagrant, etc, be dammed. park city style.
tumblr_inline_n9n8zteCjb1rzyakt.gif

is she from bassick, harding, or central?
 
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if the refs aren't going to call the forearm push offs, don't call it either when he does it to create space and dives into our player for a foul. Not one 3 second call for his 10 second backdowns, not one forearm call. I don't hate him for doing it, I hate the refs for allowing it to happen. And how many times were we going to let the hard hedge happen on pick and rolls, where Edwards winds up in the post against our shortest player?
 
ClifSpliffy said:
cuz this (picture) is a defensive foul. not.
Villanova rallies to beat UConn in Big East matchup – The Athletic
in my playing experience, if not me, then another team mate, after seeing this garbage for a period or more, we just get a running start, fake trip, then knock his back to grammar school, foul, flagrant, etc, be dammed. park city style.
tumblr_inline_n9n8zteCjb1rzyakt.gif

is she from bassick, harding, or central?
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Love the question under the short vid! SPOT ON!

Any access to the article w/o having to subscribe?
 
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alphasigko said:
Love the question under the short vid! SPOT ON!

Any access to the article w/o having to subscribe?
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'Any access to the article w/o having to subscribe?'
i have no idea. mebbe someone else here can help.
the picture is the story for me. and them.
 
Since yesterday I have been keeping my eyes open to the calls or non calls for similar Gillespie backdown bumping in other games, and whether refs are calling it or letting it go. So far, in a handful of observations, it seems like a player's size is the determining factor. Dickinson just got called offensive for a similar bump even with his defender inside the circle. His bump was firm to gain advantage, but not displacing, same as Gillespie. I admit I am biased to the defense, just like I believe in verticality and that an offensive player shouldn't get a call when they jump into a defender and create the contact. Maybe a no call for a bump, but in my very important opinion, it should be a definite foul when you go into a guy's chest 3-4x to gain advantage.
 
Hans Sprungfeld said:
"Gillespie Exception"

And, btw, he didn't push off with his hands every time. Three times he lowered one shoulder, head-butted the defender's chest, and then either backed-off for a fade away or went under.

Credit him for this: he doesn't trip people, like Grayson Allen did.

I don't necessarily disagree with most of the content in this thread that is about matters other than what's in the thread title, and he does have a complete arsenal of effective moves, but I'm sure those are being discussed elsewhere.

Nova's bench is thin, but we failed in not getting Samuels and/or Moore to foul out, in addition to Gillespie's 'allowances.'
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I'm repeating myself from another thread, but I don' t understand why our man guarding him (Cole was one I remember down low near the basket) doesn't anticipate the second or third hard shoulder to the chest and step away.
Gillespot would lose his balance, fall down or travel. But nooooooooo, we just let him do it repeatedly.
 
Ricker said:
Since yesterday I have been keeping my eyes open to the calls or non calls for similar Gillespie backdown bumping in other games, and whether refs are calling it or letting it go. So far, in a handful of observations, it seems like a player's size is the determining factor. Dickinson just got called offensive for a similar bump even with his defender inside the circle. His bump was firm to gain advantage, but not displacing, same as Gillespie. I admit I am biased to the defense, just like I believe in verticality and that an offensive player shouldn't get a call when they jump into a defender and create the contact. Maybe a no call for a bump, but in my very important opinion, it should be a definite foul when you go into a guy's chest 3-4x to gain advantage.
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and iffn someone is regularly doing that knee to knee part in the pic, look closely, folks like me would just deck him, in full view of everrone. bounce me , fine me, sue me. who cares? i don't. call the lawyers, take some of my cash, again, who cares.
this is how we do it:


my kind of winner.
don't be a dirty player. eventually, someone will get fed up with ur act.
 
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Just for laughs I looked at 247's ratings for the class of 2017 and found further proof ratings can be highly suspect:
#168 Polley
#178 Carlton
#200 Colon Gillespot
#371 Myles Johnson of Rutgers
#414 Geo Baker of Rutgers
N/A Isaiah Whaley
 
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