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Giants hire Joe Judge (Patriots ST/WR Coach)

Roger Goodell....please step up, take control, and save this franchise.
 
Judge has been the special teams coordinator for 5 years.

I'm not sure how that translates to head coach, but we'll certainly see. Honestly this reminds me of when the Snyder named Jim Zorn head coach after Joe Gibbs retired the second time. Seems a bit panic-y.
 
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CardiacAndre7 said:
I think the was the ST coach before becoming WR coach
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I think he's been ST coach since 2015, and then added WR coaching duties last year. So the last two years, he's been ST and WR coach I believe. @upstater is that true?
 
tcf15 said:
I think he's been ST coach since 2015, and then added WR coaching duties last year. So the last two years, he's been ST and WR coach I believe. @upstater is that true?
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I think that’s right. Was Special Teams coach under Saban at Alabama too. I suspect he’s a sharp guy with a good all around understanding of the game and will make a good HC. Good hire by the Giants.
 
tcf15 said:
I think he's been ST coach since 2015, and then added WR coaching duties last year. So the last two years, he's been ST and WR coach I believe. @upstater is that true?
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I think it's only this year. Chad O'Shea, the recently fired OC of the Dolphins, was the WR coach last year and before that.
 
We're the only fanbase who does that.

Also, no reason to be skeptical of those experts who hired McAdoo and Shurmur as head coaches and gave the Giants the worst record in football over the last 3 seasons.
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Sorry, I left off the :rolleyes:, as it appears, again, my sense of humor doesn't translate well when not in person.

Another thought, the Giants' braintrust just might feel lightning can strike twice and this coach will burst on the scene like Aaron Judge!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Watchdog said:
We're the only fanbase who does that.

Also, no reason to be skeptical of those experts who hired McAdoo and Shurmur as head coaches and gave the Giants the worst record in football over the last 3 seasons.
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Sorry, I left off the :rolleyes:, as it appears, again, my sense of humor doesn't translate well when not in person.

Another thought, the Giants' braintrust just might feel lightning can strike twice and this coach will burst on the scene like Aaron Judge!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Or Mike Judge?
 
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Husky25 said:
Judge has been the special teams coordinator for 5 years.

I'm not sure how that translates to head coach, but we'll certainly see. Honestly this reminds me of when the Snyder named Jim Zorn head coach after Joe Gibbs retired the second time. Seems a bit panic-y.
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Doesn't happen often but the last ST coach hired as a head coach worked out: John Harbaugh.
 
tcf15 said:
Doesn't happen often but the last ST coach hired as a head coach worked out: John Harbaugh.
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Don't know if the Ravens were panic-y, per se, but he wasn't their 1st choice either (Incidently, Harbaugh was recommended by Belichick to Steve Bisciotti.).
 
Husky25 said:
Don't know if the Ravens were panic-y, per se, but he wasn't their 1st choice either (Incidently, Harbaugh was recommended by Belichick to Steve Bisciotti.).
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Yup. He was 2nd choice behind Garrett. Thank you Jerry Jones for saving me from that and enjoying Harbaugh all this time. But I don't think it was a panicky hire, a lot of fans were reacting the same way I see Giants fans reacting, upset we hired someone nobody knew. Big difference is we had Ozzie as our GM so we had to trust him, Gettleman tho...
 
I'm not hating it, but we'll see.

Relatively young guy. Plus.
Worked under Saban and Belichick. Plus.
Extended special teams experience means he likely has good player/fringe roster management skills, underappreciated part of the job. Plus.

No head coaching or game situation management experience. Minus.
Relative inexperience means Gettlemen will likely still hold a lot of power. Minus.
 
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jcaprio90 said:
Yup. He was 2nd choice behind Garrett. Thank you Jerry Jones for saving me from that and enjoying Harbaugh all this time. But I don't think it was a panicky hire, a lot of fans were reacting the same way I see Giants fans reacting, upset we hired someone nobody knew. Big difference is we had Ozzie as our GM so we had to trust him, Gettleman tho...
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So the two ends of the spectrum have been defined. On the one end is an 11 year, Super Bowl winning, fringe-HoF head coach.

On the other? A former QB coach, who spent roughly 32 days and exactly zero games as an offensive coordinator, before being promoted to the head slot by one of the most incompetent owners in franchise sports history, before returning to positional ranks.

The reality is that Judge will be somewhere in between, but my guess is probably to the Zorn-of-Center. For sake, I hope he doesn't end up in the XFL after an eight year hiatus.
 
Giants using the UConn approach to hiring coaches. "Can we pay you with IOUs? No? Thanks we'll be in touch."
 
District-Husky said:
Eagles looking very solid in the NFC East for years to come.
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By default and by virtue of having the least incompetent front office administration.

Get into the tournament any which way you can, right? Anything can happen on any given Sunday.
 
Current state of giants, competing with Miss St for a head coach.
 
RJScootin said:
Current state of giants, competing with Miss St for a head coach.
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At least they didn't pay the Baylor coach $70 million.

No one knows if this is a good or bad hire. Literally, no one. No track record. Guy could be great. Or suck. What I do know is he will be more organized than Shurmur. You can't work for Saban then Belichick and not be detail-oriented.

He needs a major OC and DC to come in and run their schemes though. He strikes me as a CEO coach.
 
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JohnFSilver said:
At least they didn't pay the Baylor coach $70 million.

No one knows if this is a good or bad hire. Literally, no one. No track record. Guy could be great. Or suck. What I do know is he will be more organized than Shurmur. You can't work for Saban then Belichick and not be detail-oriented.

He needs a major OC and DC to come in and run their schemes though. He strikes me as a CEO coach.
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Not saying Judge won’t be great who knows and I hope he’s the guy. Agreed a lot depends on coordinators. Just comical how this all went down with Giants taking the next Miss St coach. Heard nick Saban was relieved
 
Gettleman just hired a guy he can control. Judge is going to listen to him and follow him until he earns his own voice with wins or improved team play. I don't see Judge pushing Gettleman back or trying to get his way.

I'm not a Giants fan or hater, root for local teams.

The Giants have a lot of positives to work with right now. Who knows, it might work out, but I still think Bienemy would have worked in NY with Barkley and Jones.
 
Bienemy shoulda been the choice if they could’ve got him. But yeah who knows, if he’s great nothing we say here matters, if he sucks, still the same. Just gotta wait and see.
 
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