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mauconnfan said:
Funny how many suddenly agree with Geno here yet they won't watch a women's game. I mean if he's right then sit your a** down and watch the women game and tell me how great it is. I mean UConn and Geno are great, I expect they should beat MD by 20-30 points. Wow, that's fun LOL.....and they already beat the others too by a lot. What a great game!!

Shot clock to 30 - yep agree. Make a few calls on people that are getting away with physicality that's not acceptable? Yeah I agree.but to think you'd rather watch a game where one team has 3 players who are good, 2 who are actually athletic and the other team has 2 good players and can't guard a girls on the low post who just pivots and throws up scoops all day? Funny, while I root for them it's fairly painful most of the time. It really is and to compare it or hear about from a women's coach is even more painful since he is fielding 5-8 of the best players in the nation. Wow that's fair!!

Gene again too arrogant for his own good
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He was asked a question... and that was his answer. The guy doesn't know how to be dishonest. I think he's a hoot, but I can see how and why a lot of people don't care for him. You must be a LadyVol fan. ;^)
 
My biggest gripe is the last 3 minutes of the game take forever. It could suck all the fun out of a good game.
 
shakes65 said:
After the John Wooden comment, there is no reason to go any further,
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Why he's not? And with him so is the game he loved because it hasn't been the same since the 60's and never will be in the men's because there are lots of good teams now, not just 4 or 5 like back then. Hmmmm, sounds familiar huh?;)
 
2Husky said:
He clarified his comments later on SVP

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=12600881

"Don't get me wrong, the womens game is even less watchable" -for all you guys who think answering a question about mens basketball requires acknowledging the deficiencies of the womens game
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Yeah after he stuck his foot in his mouth. Same with Calipari after the game the other night when it took him until later to actually give ND any credit for the way they played instead talking about Kentucky. There's a guy Geno would be happy to be compared to - The Squid!
 
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uconnfan68 said:
He was asked a question... and that was his answer. The guy doesn't know how to be dishonest. I think he's a hoot, but I can see how and why a lot of people don't care for him. You must be a LadyVol fan. ;^)
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He's a hoot until he thinks he's too much as he did in this interview. The "hoot" guy is in the women's game, the arrogant guy comes out at times like this. Heck if there's only 10-15 teams who know how to play basketball and UConn didn't make the tourney they aren't one of them. Guess KO gets the Fung Wah from Geno huh? He talks too much and loves to hear himself. don't give me the deflecting business for his team, they don't need it.

As someone else said let's see him take the men's Fordham job and get a national championship out of it. Then he can spew all the BSD he wants. Until then he coaches a bunch of fairly athletic women against teams who have payers who can't guard 60 year old men. Tough job 90% of the time huh?:rolleyes:
 
mauconnfan said:
Yeah after he stuck his foot in his mouth. Same with Calipari after the game the other night when it took him until later to actually give ND any credit for the way they played instead talking about Kentucky. There's a guy Geno would be happy to be compared to - The Squid!
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Geno was effusive in his praise for Dayton, even at half time. Try again, hater.
 
Waquoit said:
Geno was effusive in his praise for Dayton, even at half time. Try again, hater.
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Waquoit said:
Geno was effusive in his praise for Dayton, even at half time. Try again, hater.
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Read what I said FF. It was the point that the "women's game is even less watchable" well after the interview, not about Dayton where id you come up with that Waq job? I saw what he said abut dayton and he praised them as he should have. Where do you see my point on Dayton?

Thought you had more brains than them, guess again huh?:eek:
 
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mauconnfan said:
Read what I said FF. It was the point that the "women's game is even less watchable" well after the interview, not about Dayton where id you come up with that Waq job? I saw what he said abut dayton and he praised them as he should have. Where do you see my point on Dayton?

Thought you had more brains than them, guess again huh?:eek:
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I guess I don't understand why if someone is asked what do you think about problems with the men's game, they need to include anything about the women's game. (Which in the original quote he also acknowledged as being behind the times). He said he is a fan and was asked directly about the men, he has as much right to his opinion as you.
 
mauconnfan said:
Read what I said FF. It was the point that the "women's game is even less watchable" well after the interview, not about Dayton where id you come up with that Waq job? I saw what he said abut dayton and he praised them as he should have. Where do you see my point on Dayton?

Thought you had more brains than them, guess again huh?:eek:
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He never made it a men's game versus a women's game debate - you're the only one who's doing that.

I just don't know how you can read the entire quote from Geno and disagree with his point. The men's game has gotten increasingly ugly over the years and needs a bunch of rule changes (shorter shot clock, defensive 3 seconds, ideally 2-year minimum for players, etc.).

Geno's argument isn't new.
 
UConn990411 said:
He never made it a men's game versus a women's game debate - you're the only one who's doing that.

I just don't know how you can read the entire quote from Geno and disagree with his point. The men's game has gotten increasingly ugly over the years and needs a bunch of rule changes (shorter shot clock, defensive 3 seconds, ideally 2-year minimum for players, etc.).

Geno's argument isn't new.
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That's what is so frustrating about this whole thing. Geno made good points, but people are looking this as a women's basketball coach critiquing the men's game, when even Geno clarified that he was talking as a spectator and fan of the sport. So many people, either on this board, Twitter, or other blogs, are using the "well why don't you coach the men's game" as their first line of defense when that isn't the point at all.
 
UConn990411 said:
He never made it a men's game versus a women's game debate - you're the only one who's doing that.

I just don't know how you can read the entire quote from Geno and disagree with his point. The men's game has gotten increasingly ugly over the years and needs a bunch of rule changes (shorter shot clock, defensive 3 seconds, ideally 2-year minimum for players, etc.).

Geno's argument isn't new.
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He did make it a men's vs women's debate. He's a women's coach and he is talking about the men's game and how unwatchable it is. He didn't say how horribly unwatchable 95% of the women's games are in comparison and this should have been brought up in the context of the interview. He did after, so good for him.

Hey there are games, probably most of them, that are just painful to watch in the mens game I get it. Hell our team inflicted crap on us this year we aren't used to and it needs to change. The problem is there are a lot of good teams with a lot of good athletes, these games are going to happen. Funny though how when he real "Big East" was around, much of this was because of how they played but now it's all just ugly? I mean c'mon, it's tough to run consistent offense against teams who can play defense every night. I also love to watch great team defense and it's out there in the mens game and abundant at that. UConn beat Butler and UK the last 2 NC's and it was "ugly" in all reality or at least according to all of you and Geno.

To me those are prettier than any the women have won!
 
mauconnfan said:
He did make it a men's vs women's debate. He's a women's coach and he is talking about the men's game and how unwatchable it is. He didn't say how horribly unwatchable 95% of the women's games are in comparison and this should have been brought up in the context of the interview. He did after, so good for him.

Hey there are games, probably most of them, that are just painful to watch in the mens game I get it. Hell our team inflicted crap on us this year we aren't used to and it needs to change. The problem is there are a lot of good teams with a lot of good athletes, these games are going to happen. Funny though how when he real "Big East" was around, much of this was because of how they played but now it's all just ugly? I mean c'mon, it's tough to run consistent offense against teams who can play defense every night. I also love to watch great team defense and it's out there in the mens game and abundant at that. UConn beat Butler and UK the last 2 NC's and it was "ugly" in all reality or at least according to all of you and Geno.

To me those are prettier than any the women have won!
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He was asked specifically about the men's game. He even said that women's basketball is behind the times, but then turned his focus back to men's basketball to answer the question that the reporter asked.
 
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Ok tcf voice of reason. I'm done unless someone says something really stupid! LOL

It's still not his place to go that far and not explain how different the 2 games are, but that's just me!;)
 
mauconnfan said:
Ok tcf voice of reason. I'm done unless someone says something really stupid! LOL

It's still not his place to go that far and not explain how different the 2 games are, but that's just me!;)
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It's not his place to answer the question he was asked. Got it. Obviously you have a problem with women's sports; it's pretty ugly.
 
CallMeBruce said:
It's not his place to answer the question he was asked. Got it. Obviously you have a problem with women's sports; it's pretty ugly.
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Hey Bruce FO. That's not the point here bag and don't try to tell me who the fk I am okay?

Like I said I was done unless something or someone stupid had something to say.;)
 
For what its worth Jay Bilas thinks the points are correct.

"Harsh, but, overall, he's correct. The game is not in a good place. Women's game is better administered, better rules."


(sorry i don't know how to post from twitter)

He has also been having a pretty interesting discussion on rules changes to improve the game, seems to favor 24 second shot clock, and international 3 point line, wider lane, etc. I think its all worth considering. I don't want to make college a less talented version of the nba. I do want to increase scoring and make games flow better. I was thinking that maybe coaches would teach better offense if the practice hours weren't as restrictive, but then again they may use extra time on defense.
 
James said:
i just feel like geno gives off this high horse vibe. like he's the or something.
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Yeah, crazy, huh. Best coach in women's basketball history. Who does he think he is?!
 
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Deadrody said:
Yeah, crazy, huh. Best coach in women's basketball history. Who does he think he is?!
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who the hell cares about womens basketball history? Look i got respect for ann meyers, mainly cause she signed a contract in the nba. and she isn't on a high horse, does playbyplay for suns games and is awesome.

Also, all this blabber about the damn shot clock, the most glaring issue is the 3inthekey. all basketball should be played under the same set of rules. there is this new culture of 'hoops snobs' discussing college hoops, it , dont watch it. watch a superior product in the NBA. but OH the nba is terrible! they don't play defense or try hard!

junk defenses that are enabled by the no 3inthekey call is killing the game. also for some reason there is no clear path foul. oh , and possession arrows. do a jump ball.

But no everybody wants the hot take like the freaking shot clock is doing the damage here. I might agree with the some timeout stuff, but thats about it. I can't believe geno has the nerve to bring up the word 'entertainment'. Basketball is about behemoths executing physical feats not seen everyday, not 10 unathletic college girls running plays to precision because nobody is playing defense.
 
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There are plenty of problems with the game as it is, ref's, too many stoppages and what have you, but to me it all started going downhill when the NCAA limited the amount of time a coach could spend practicing his team in the off-season. What used to be a time to work on fundamentals and letting players getting to know each other (in other words learning how to be a team) is now gone. In it's place when practice starts is positional coaching and plays. You watch these games and coaches spend the entire game yelling out to players, where to stand, when to rotate, how to move, when to move. It's become all very mechanical and tough to watch. The teams of the 70's and 80's and into the early 90's just played basketball.

AAU and the absolute lack of teaching basic fundamentals by the time the kids hit college has not helped either.
 
mauconnfan said:
He did make it a men's vs women's debate. He's a women's coach and he is talking about the men's game and how unwatchable it is. He didn't say how horribly unwatchable 95% of the women's games are in comparison and this should have been brought up in the context of the interview. He did after, so good for him.
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I think he actually prefaced his statement with an acknowledgement that the women's game is screwed up too., not that it really matters. He's right. I don't really care about the women's game but men's college basketball has, for the most part, gotten pretty unenjoyable to watch. It's funny that so many on here are anti-NBA when the NBA presents a much, much more appealing product. I don't know how many more games I can watch where you've got teams struggling to score 40 or 50 points in an entire game.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
I think he actually prefaced his statement with an acknowledgement that the women's game is screwed up too., not that it really matters. He's right. I don't really care about the women's game but men's college basketball has, for the most part, gotten pretty unenjoyable to watch. It's funny that so many on here are anti-NBA when the NBA presents a much, much more appealing product. I don't know how many more games I can watch where you've got teams struggling to score 40 or 50 points in an entire game.
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"But they don't try hard or play any defense! It's all dunks and a me-first plays!!"

- stereotypical NBA critic who probably hasn't seen a game since 2002
 
FriarJ said:
There are plenty of problems with the game as it is, ref's, too many stoppages and what have you, but to me it all started going downhill when the NCAA limited the amount of time a coach could spend practicing his team in the off-season. What used to be a time to work on fundamentals and letting players getting to know each other (in other words learning how to be a team) is now gone. In it's place when practice starts is positional coaching and plays. You watch these games and coaches spend the entire game yelling out to players, where to stand, when to rotate, how to move, when to move. It's become all very mechanical and tough to watch. The teams of the 70's and 80's and into the early 90's just played basketball.

AAU and the absolute lack of teaching basic fundamentals by the time the kids hit college has not helped either.
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Good point. I think one of the reasons kentucky has been able to go undefeated is that they had the international trip in the offseason, which gives a couple weeks of extra practice and some real game experience. I think teams are limited to one trip every 5 years.
 
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