Geno on Next Year's Roster - Interesting Comments RE: Liv

[Zanzman]

A lack of emotion does not mean a lack of dedication a lot of great players in all sports that don’t always show emotion

 

[Bald Husky]

I never been a big believer in the theory that a player's demeanor correctly conveys dedication or how much they want it. I have even less confidence in our ability to properly interpret a players demeanor. Napheesa Collier was a player with a similar demeanor to ONO & I don't remember anyone questioning how much Napheesa really wanted it. If we strictly focus on the performance then ONO has left a lot to be desired in her first 3 years. This was a player that dunked in the McDonalds AA game and some were predicting would be the first UCONN woman to dunk in a game. Liv is also the only Collegiate player to have spent time with the Senior National Team. Even her most ardent supports have to admit that Liv leaves you wanting more. Her demeanor is irrelevantI get the emotion thin

I never been a big believer in the theory that a player's demeanor correctly conveys dedication or how much they want it. I have even less confidence in our ability to properly interpret a players demeanor. Napheesa Collier was a player with a similar demeanor to ONO & I don't remember anyone questioning how much Napheesa really wanted it. If we strictly focus on the performance then ONO has left a lot to be desired in her first 3 years. This was a player that dunked in the McDonalds AA game and some were predicting would be the first UCONN woman to dunk in a game. Liv is also the only Collegiate player to have spent time with the Senior National Team. Even her most ardent supports have to admit that Liv leaves you wanting more. Her demeanor is irrelevant.

I get the emotional thing, it just stands out when she is around the rest of the players. The main purpose of that post was the lack of development of her game. A baby hook, jump shot that really is a jump shot. Geno raves about her assists and her passing, but Dolson was a great passer, she scored inside, and she had a decent jump shot. I was just wondering whether it was her lack of working on her game, or a lack of coaching. I find it hard to believe that it is the latter.

 

[AYusef]

It sounds like as of today, Ono will be coming off the bench.

She will be if she doesn't use this summer to re-evaluate her game and her progress. Geno's words should not surprise anyone if you have followed this team since his arrival. Some think he is too harsh but he treats them like the big time collegiate athletes that they are. Not little girls playing in some catholic league!! I'm sure he had a sit down with Liv shortly after her FF debacle and made it crystal clear to her. To lose your starting position in your senior year would be a devastating blow . If she is not better than what she showed in her junior year then she will certainly be coming off the bench.

 

[AYusef]

. Napheesa Collier was a player with a similar demeanor to ONO & I don't remember anyone questioning how much Napheesa really wanted it.

Your analogy is off a bit, the one thing that stood out about Naphessa was her motor. ONO has never showed that kind of energy or want-to. I've been an ONO supporter and pray to the basketball gods that she uses her summer wisely. I think her coach has seen enough.

 

[darkstar1]

How I wish Pheesa got to play with AE.

 

[cferraro04]

Next year's version of the Huskies poses many new questions:

1. Will Olivia continue to evolve with UConn's changing personnel?
2. Will Amari DeBerry show the same ability to adapt to the college game in her freshmen year as Aaliyah has?
3. Will Dorka Juhasz be able to bring her previous experience to UConn in a way that translates to the UConn system?
4. Will Dorka be an effective 4th option for shooting the 3 and for being able to pull her opponent out from under the basket thereby opening the lane up for our guards to penetrate and dish on pick and rolls?
5. Will Evina be able to finally successfully put her injuries behind her and once again emerge as that number 2 prospect coming out of high school we saw in her freshmen and sophomore years?
6. Will Christyn Williams be able to stay consistent and will she ever be able to be depended on to make a three point shot? Of course, with all the fire power coming in next season it may not matter.
7. Will Nika Muhl be content with a role that includes her coming off the bench and her being the back-up point guard.?
8. Will Evina?
9. Will Aubrey Griffin finally consistently show us the player that we all believe she could be?
10. Will Mir McLean take that sophomore leap? If she does she would be unworldly good.
11. The only question I have about Aaliyah is how much like the reincarnation of Asjha Jones can she be?
12. Can Caroline Ducharme be as good as advertised?
13. Will Saylor Poffenbarger be able to parlay her early start advantage to an early sophomore jump?
14. How many freshmen records will Azzi Fudd destroy?
15. How will Paige Bueckers role change next season...will she become an assists machine and help the rest of the team pad their scoring stats?
16. How will the UConn coaching staff make up for the loss of Shea Ralph? Probably a question that will be answered very shortly?
17. How will the UConn coaching staff balance the minutes between so many talented players?
18. Will UConn be a full-court pressing team?
19. How often will UConn be a run and shoot early in the shot clock type of team?
20. Will their sure to be smothering defense cause them to focus on the transition game, the half-court game or a balance of the two?
21. How many combinations of line-ups will Geno experiment with?
22. What will the impact be to this year's returning players when they finally get to play in front of the UConn fans?
23. Is it possible that the best player on the UConn team will not be this year's returning Player of the Year?
24. How often will next year's team score 100 points?
25. Will Bueckers, Olivia, or Evina emerge as a triple-double threat next season?
26. No questions for Autumn Chaisson...just advice...practice your 3 point shot...I believe you will have a lot of opportunities to hoist them up....

I am sure many of you could add questions to the list...but, just think how exciting it will be to be a UConn fan as the Huskies start answering all those questions.

 

[TheGOAT23]

I'm never been a big believer in the theory that a player's demeanor correctly conveys dedication or how much they want it. I have even less confidence in our ability to properly interpret a players demeanor. Napheesa Collier was a player with a similar demeanor to ONO & I don't remember anyone questioning how much Napheesa really wanted it. If we strictly focus on the performance then ONO has left a lot to be desired in her first 3 years. This was a player that dunked in the McDonalds AA game and some were predicting would be the first UCONN woman to dunk in a game. Liv is also the only Collegiate player to have spent time with the Senior National Team. Even her most ardent supporters have to admit that Liv leaves you wanting more. Her demeanor is irrelevant.

For more references: See Tim Duncan and Kawhi Leonard.

 

[AYusef]

Next year's version of the Huskies poses many new questions:

1. Will Olivia continue to evolve with UConn's changing personnel?
2. Will Amari DeBerry show the same ability to adapt to the college game in her freshmen year as Aaliyah has?
3. Will Dorka Juhasz be able to bring her previous experience to UConn in a way that translates to the UConn system?
4. Will Dorka be an effective 4th option for shooting the 3 and for being able to pull her opponent out from under the basket thereby opening the lane up for our guards to penetrate and dish on pick and rolls?
5. Will Evina be able to finally successfully put her injuries behind her and once again emerge as that number 2 prospect coming out of high school we saw in her freshmen and sophomore years?
6. Will Christyn Williams be able to stay consistent and will she ever be able to be depended on to make a three point shot? Of course, with all the fire power coming in next season it may not matter.
7. Will Nika Muhl be content with a role that includes her coming off the bench and her being the back-up point guard.?
8. Will Evina?
9. Will Aubrey Griffin finally consistently show us the player that we all believe she could be?
10. Will Mir McLean take that sophomore leap? If she does she would be unworldly good.
11. The only question I have about Aaliyah is how much like the reincarnation of Asjha Jones can she be?
12. Can Caroline Ducharme be as good as advertised?
13. Will Saylor Poffenbarger be able to parlay her early start advantage to an early sophomore jump?
14. How many freshmen records will Azzi Fudd destroy?
15. How will Paige Bueckers role change next season...will she become an assists machine and help the rest of the team pad their scoring stats?
16. How will the UConn coaching staff make up for the loss of Shea Ralph? Probably a question that will be answered very shortly?
17. How will the UConn coaching staff balance the minutes between so many talented players?
18. Will UConn be a full-court pressing team?
19. How often will UConn be a run and shoot early in the shot clock type of team?
20. Will their sure to be smothering defense cause them to focus on the transition game, the half-court game or a balance of the two?
21. How many combinations of line-ups will Geno experiment with?
22. What will the impact be to this year's returning players when they finally get to play in front of the UConn fans?
23. Is it possible that the best player on the UConn team will not be this year's returning Player of the Year?
24. How often will next year's team score 100 points?
25. Will Bueckers, Olivia, or Evina emerge as a triple-double threat next season?
26. No questions for Autumn Chaisson...just advice...practice your 3 point shot...I believe you will have a lot of opportunities to hoist them up....

I am sure many of you could add questions to the list...but, just think how exciting it will be to be a UConn fan as the Huskies start answering all those questions.

This is something I have pondered a lot since the end of the season. I give you a ton of credit for this making your list! They certainly will have the depth and the players to do so. With Aubrey/Mir Mclean you have two uber athletic players that could be first wave of your press. Geno will have the size on the backline to protect the rim at all times. You have ball hawks in Paige/Nika, don't know about Azzi defensively yet but we will find out. It also allows you to play a lot of players, spreading minutes around is going to be a task for Geno.

 

[UcMiami]

I'll add two more questions:
27. How will Paige adjust to her role as sixth woman coming in at the 5 minute mark of the first Q?
28. How will the rest of the WCBB react to question 27, and Uconn not starting this years NPOY?
😎

 

[cferraro04]

I'll add two more questions:
27. How will Paige adjust to her role as sixth woman coming in at the 5 minute mark of the first Q?
28. How will the rest of the WCBB react to question 27, and Uconn not starting this years NPOY?
😎

Under what scenario do you not see Paige starting? I ask because that is not a question that I ever entertained

 

[Ozimoto]

I think that post was made with tongue thoroughly implanted in cheek.

 

[Discograd]

Geno on roster

(Apologies if this has already been posted/discussed.)

Notice has been served:

“I think Aaliyah made incredible progress from day one,” Auriemma said. “She’s really physical, she plays hard every possession, she competes for everything, she did a great job finishing around the basket, she offensive rebounded, which was crucial for us, and she defended. I could see her next year getting the bulk of the touches among all of the post players. I have incredibly high expectations for Aaliyah, and for where she's going in the future.

"And Liv is going to be a senior. If Liv stays the same, then it’s obviously going to be a difficult senior year for Liv. If Liv adds some things to her game and makes the adjustments she needs to make, she's going to be a big factor and we're going to be fine.”

For such a small word "if" is very powerful.

 

[Stymie]

I really, really, really like Liv’s “style” of play.
Light on her feet, glides the floor, Sets good screens, good passer on the pick and roll, has learned to NOT foul on her blocks (arms straight up). Works well with Edwards-more of a finesse player in my opinion.
Aaliyah brings so much more physicality to the position. Grabs and RIPS the ball away from opponents. Hits the deck with regularity.
Liv is more of a presence-Edwards is a force.
I DO hope that Olivia can add a bit more aggression to her game ( off season-scrimmages?) put an arc on her 8-10 ft shot and hit with more consistency— and OWN her space on layups —take it UP.
I hope she can “tune” her game up.
This roster addition is a major personal challenge for her.
(JMHO)

 

[UcMiami]

Under what scenario do you not see Paige starting? I ask because that is not a question that I ever entertained

It would just be really funny, and Geno has enough experienced players that he could bring Paige off the bench. And it would send shock waves throughout the basketball world.
Starting lineup: Nika, Christyn, Evina, Aaliyah, Olivia. First stoppage: Paige, Azzi, Caroline, Aubrey, and Dorka. Next stoppage: Autumn, Mir, Saylor, Amari, Piath. Rinse and repeat.

And each game he could start different lines to be fair and really confuse the opponent. And CD would create some stupid prize for the best line in each game - and the lines would in typical Uconn fashion become cutthroat to win the prize.

 

[Happydad745]

Olivia is now the holder of her own future...if her game gets better, she might be AA and retain her 30 minutes per game venue. If not, she might not even start.

 

[Waquoit]

At a minimum she should nail that 3 pointer from the top of the arc. All players should master that shot, the benefits are so great.

 

[huskiemaniac]

At a minimum she should nail that 3 pointer from the top of the arc. All players should master that shot, the benefits are so great.

Personally, I was happy to see her not attempt a 3 (IIRC) in the tournament. I assumed Geno gave her the red light. Nothing drove me nuts more than an Ono 3 as our first shot of a game, or taken early in the shot clock. (By early, I mean anything before 5 seconds)

 

[DEpup]

How I wish Pheesa got to play with AE.

Actually I would have liked to see Pheesa play with Stef Dolson. I think they would have been the perfect high low combo. Dolson at the high post and Pheesa down low.

I don't think Pheesa and AE would work because they want to occupy the same space.

 

[The CDR-Ret]

I honestly don’t think Liv will lose her starting role (could be wrong), but I do think if she doesn’t fix the things he’s talking about her minutes will be significantly reduced. I think he won’t give her as many chances in game and will just pull her instead.

I believe Geno believes he has the pieces (UCONN are all better) that he saw work effectively for Tara & Stanford. Now to just get to the National Finals.....

 

[oldhusky]

I think we are looking to change this or add that, when after three years to a large extent it is what it is. Her personality or drive will probably the same, and it is unlikely she develops a brand new skill. She doesn't react well in traffic or against physical players. Fairly modest contact throws her off.

She still can dominate much smaller players, but we need someone who can succeed against the Baylor's, South Carolina's, Stanford etc. Geno will have two more options next year in Dorka and Amari that might work better in certain match-ups, but Amari seems pretty similar in build and style.

Now there is one thing that would make me think Liv could improve her weak areas, but that would be if she returned to school 20-25 pounds heavier. Since that hasn't happened in three years, I don't think it will this time either.

 

[Crossover]

Under what scenario do you not see Paige starting? I ask because that is not a question that I ever entertained

Did you not notice all the sarcasm emojis in the post. He was pulling your leg, and apparently successful in doing so.

 

[Fossil]

What I don’t understand is how can someone be 6 foot five and not have a hook shot. Liv has good footwork long arms and can elevate so a shot like this could be devastating. She gets good deep penetration in the lane but only has her three options hook around the defender to the right or left for a close in layup ( often missed) or step away baby jump shot. Have her sit down and watch Kareem’s highlights and learn how to take that shot she could be a different player next year. And in watching all the games I can’t tell you how many times I see a shot go up and she stands there and watches it instead of breaking toward the basket I don’t know if that is the plan or if she just doesn’t look to rebound. With her height and quickness she should be a rebounding machine maybe 15 a game especially in the Big East. She definitely battled the other Biggs well defensively but she just has no offensive game against them. Liv has gotten stronger each year and I expect next year will be no different I just hope she works on her offense. The potential is there he just needs to be realized.

 

[Redux]

Nothing drove me nuts more than an Ono 3 as our first shot of a game, or taken early in the shot clock. (By early, I mean anything before 5 seconds)

By early (in her case) I mean anything before 40 minutes. Sorry to be snarky.

My wife always laughs when I call out "no" when anyone takes a 3 point shot I don't agree with and makes it, or even just a long jumper, but it's an inside joke: I always stand with my call. I like the points but an ill-advised shot is still a mistake.

She maintains (and she's probably right) that sometimes players just feel it, or the odds of getting somebody a better look before the shot clock starts pressuring are low. To me a shot outside someone's range, particularly when contested, is wrong if there's still time for better. But I'm set in my ways.

 

[Calbysdad]

I wasn't sure what I was looking for when I grabbed Liv's stats for last season - I just wanted to look for trends. With the exception of UMass (the first game), Liv was exceptionally efficient in every game but 6 (I have put those in Red Bold). Those were, arguably, our six toughest games going in and our toughest defenses faced. Take a peek for yourself and see if you can pick up any trends...

My takeaway is Liv feasts on the weaker to medium competition but struggles against the elite.

Date	Opponent	PTS	MIN	FGM-FGA	3PM-3PA	FTM-FTA	REB	AST	BLK	STL	TO	PF
12/12/2020	UMass Lowell	12	19	5-14	0-0	2-6	9	1	3	1	0	0
12/15/2020	Seton Hall	16	25	7-9	0-1	2-4	10	2	1	1	3	3
12/17/2020	Creighton	24	22	9-9	1-1	5-6	2	2	2	0	1	2
12/19/2020	Xavier	16	24	7-10	0-0	2-2	11	3	2	0	4	3
12/22/2020	Villanova	19	22	7-9	0-0	5-6	6	3	3	1	2	4
12/29/2020	DePaul	16	27	7-11	0-0	2-6	14	3	1	0	4	3
1/9/2021	Providence	11	15	5-10	0-0	1-2	2	3	2	0	2	1
1/19/2021	Butler	18	21	7-9	0-0	4-6	3	0	2	0	2	1
1/21/2021	Tennessee	7	31	2-7	0-4	3-6	11	1	3	1	0	2
1/23/2021	Georgetown	19	24	8-12	2-2	1-2	9	0	1	0	1	3
1/28/2021	Arkansas	2	19	1-2	0-0	0-0	2	2	3	1	3	2
1/31/2021	DePaul	10	26	5-7	0-0	0-0	7	2	1	0	3	3
2/3/2021	St. John's (NY)	11	34	5-10	0-2	1-1	5	3	1	3	2	4
2/5/2021	Marquette	8	36	4-9	0-1	0-0	8	7	0	1	2	3
2/8/2021	South Carolina	6	30	3-10	0-1	0-0	7	6	1	0	1	4
2/10/2021	Seton Hall	15	34	7-12	0-1	1-1	13	3	2	1	2	2
2/12/2021	Georgetown	6	21	2-3	0-0	2-2	5	2	1	1	1	3
2/17/2021	St. John's (NY)	17	24	8-11	1-1	0-2	7	0	2	2	1	0
2/20/2021	Xavier	11	24	4-7	0-1	3-4	8	6	2	0	2	0
2/25/2021	Creighton	11	27	4-7	0-0	3-3	11	4	1	0	0	0
2/27/2021	Butler	11	24	5-9	0-0	1-3	9	2	0	0	5	3
3/1/2021	Marquette	19	35	9-18	0-0	1-2	10	3	6	0	2	4
3/6/2021	St. John's (NY)	10	25	5-9	0-0	0-0	11	2	1	1	3	2
3/7/2021	Villanova	13	22	5-9	0-0	3-4	7	5	0	0	0	1
3/8/2021	Marquette	5	23	2-5	0-0	1-2	7	5	4	1	1	2
3/21/2021	High Point	22	32	9-17	0-0	4-5	7	4	0	0	3	3
3/23/2021	Syracuse	17	31	7-11	0-0	3-5	8	2	1	1	0	4
3/27/2021	Iowa	4	36	2-6	0-0	0-0	11	7	1	2	4	2
3/29/2021	Baylor	3	29	1-3	0-0	1-2	8	4	5	0	2	4
4/2/2021	Arizona	1	21	0-7	0-0	1-4	6	0	1	1	1	3

 

[DEpup]

Great visual!!! Tells the story. No words necessay.

 

[UcMiami]

Great visual!!! Tells the story. No words necessay.

Except it really doesn't tell the story unless you consider efficiency to be just scoring points. I consider it a whole lot more. Iowa: 11 rebounds, seven assists; Baylor 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 5 blocks; SC 7 rebounds 6 assists; TN 11 rebounds, 3 blocks. And against Arkansas she shot 50%.

Talk about inefficiency:
TN - Paige: 38 minutes, 9 pts, 3-14 shooting, 1-6 three, 2-2 FT, 8 rebounds, 0 PF, 7 assists, 2 TOs, 0 blocks, 3 steals.

Uconn lost against Arkansas because of terrible defense - they shot 52% overall and 57% from 3. Last time I checked Liv isn't usually defending at the arc.
And they lost against AZ because they weren't ready to win and didn't rise to the challenge - you can scapegoat Liv all you want but that was a team loss as well.

 

[oldhusky]

I wasn't sure what I was looking for when I grabbed Liv's stats for last season - I just wanted to look for trends. With the exception of UMass (the first game), Liv was exceptionally efficient in every game but 6 (I have put those in Red Bold). Those were, arguably, our six toughest games going in and our toughest defenses faced. Take a peek for yourself and see if you can pick up any trends...

My takeaway is Liv feasts on the weaker to medium competition but struggles against the elite.

Date	Opponent	PTS	MIN	FGM-FGA	3PM-3PA	FTM-FTA	REB	AST	BLK	STL	TO	PF
12/12/2020	UMass Lowell	12	19	5-14	0-0	2-6	9	1	3	1	0	0
12/15/2020	Seton Hall	16	25	7-9	0-1	2-4	10	2	1	1	3	3
12/17/2020	Creighton	24	22	9-9	1-1	5-6	2	2	2	0	1	2
12/19/2020	Xavier	16	24	7-10	0-0	2-2	11	3	2	0	4	3
12/22/2020	Villanova	19	22	7-9	0-0	5-6	6	3	3	1	2	4
12/29/2020	DePaul	16	27	7-11	0-0	2-6	14	3	1	0	4	3
1/9/2021	Providence	11	15	5-10	0-0	1-2	2	3	2	0	2	1
1/19/2021	Butler	18	21	7-9	0-0	4-6	3	0	2	0	2	1
1/21/2021	Tennessee	7	31	2-7	0-4	3-6	11	1	3	1	0	2
1/23/2021	Georgetown	19	24	8-12	2-2	1-2	9	0	1	0	1	3
1/28/2021	Arkansas	2	19	1-2	0-0	0-0	2	2	3	1	3	2
1/31/2021	DePaul	10	26	5-7	0-0	0-0	7	2	1	0	3	3
2/3/2021	St. John's (NY)	11	34	5-10	0-2	1-1	5	3	1	3	2	4
2/5/2021	Marquette	8	36	4-9	0-1	0-0	8	7	0	1	2	3
2/8/2021	South Carolina	6	30	3-10	0-1	0-0	7	6	1	0	1	4
2/10/2021	Seton Hall	15	34	7-12	0-1	1-1	13	3	2	1	2	2
2/12/2021	Georgetown	6	21	2-3	0-0	2-2	5	2	1	1	1	3
2/17/2021	St. John's (NY)	17	24	8-11	1-1	0-2	7	0	2	2	1	0
2/20/2021	Xavier	11	24	4-7	0-1	3-4	8	6	2	0	2	0
2/25/2021	Creighton	11	27	4-7	0-0	3-3	11	4	1	0	0	0
2/27/2021	Butler	11	24	5-9	0-0	1-3	9	2	0	0	5	3
3/1/2021	Marquette	19	35	9-18	0-0	1-2	10	3	6	0	2	4
3/6/2021	St. John's (NY)	10	25	5-9	0-0	0-0	11	2	1	1	3	2
3/7/2021	Villanova	13	22	5-9	0-0	3-4	7	5	0	0	0	1
3/8/2021	Marquette	5	23	2-5	0-0	1-2	7	5	4	1	1	2
3/21/2021	High Point	22	32	9-17	0-0	4-5	7	4	0	0	3	3
3/23/2021	Syracuse	17	31	7-11	0-0	3-5	8	2	1	1	0	4
3/27/2021	Iowa	4	36	2-6	0-0	0-0	11	7	1	2	4	2
3/29/2021	Baylor	3	29	1-3	0-0	1-2	8	4	5	0	2	4
4/2/2021	Arizona	1	21	0-7	0-0	1-4	6	0	1	1	1	3

You just documented very precisely what many of us were feeling. Since her season wide FG% is pretty good, and these results are so bad, the difference is way to large to be a statistical fluke. There clearly is a relationship there.

 

[cferraro04]

Except it really doesn't tell the story unless you consider efficiency to be just scoring points. I consider it a whole lot more. Iowa: 11 rebounds, seven assists; Baylor 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 5 blocks; SC 7 rebounds 6 assists; TN 11 rebounds, 3 blocks. And against Arkansas she shot 50%.

Talk about inefficiency:
TN - Paige: 38 minutes, 9 pts, 3-14 shooting, 1-6 three, 2-2 FT, 8 rebounds, 0 PF, 7 assists, 2 TOs, 0 blocks, 3 steals.

Uconn lost against Arkansas because of terrible defense - they shot 52% overall and 57% from 3. Last time I checked Liv isn't usually defending at the arc.
And they lost against AZ because they weren't ready to win and didn't rise to the challenge - you can scapegoat Liv all you want but that was a team loss as well.

I willing to bet that conversations like these will be "far and in between" next season. I think we are going to have to calm down the exuberance in order to not offend the basketball gods and maintain the mojo.

 

[Calbysdad]

Except it really doesn't tell the story unless you consider efficiency to be just scoring points. I consider it a whole lot more. Iowa: 11 rebounds, seven assists; Baylor 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 5 blocks; SC 7 rebounds 6 assists; TN 11 rebounds, 3 blocks. And against Arkansas she shot 50%.

Talk about inefficiency:
TN - Paige: 38 minutes, 9 pts, 3-14 shooting, 1-6 three, 2-2 FT, 8 rebounds, 0 PF, 7 assists, 2 TOs, 0 blocks, 3 steals.

Uconn lost against Arkansas because of terrible defense - they shot 52% overall and 57% from 3. Last time I checked Liv isn't usually defending at the arc.
And they lost against AZ because they weren't ready to win and didn't rise to the challenge - you can scapegoat Liv all you want but that was a team loss as well.

I couldn't agree more. Most of the complaints seem to not take defense, rebounding and passing into account - only offense. You can also say that playing better team defenses should come with an expected decrease in offensive efficiency...

 

[Heytherego]

I couldn't agree more. Most of the complaints seem to not take defense, rebounding and passing into account - only offense. You can also say that playing better team defenses should come with an expected decrease in offensive efficiency...

People forget there’s more to basketball than making shots. Liv impacts the game in a ton of other ways, at an elite level, that others don’t.