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With Stanford losing early and UConn in FF, Geno has 2 more wins and is now only 3 behind Tara. If Geno's and the team's miracle run (Geno's words) continues, we may erase one or two from that gap.

With the team coming back for us next year, and Tara having to travel 3K miles several times next year just to play league games, it's very likely that next year is when Geno will firmly be at the top of the list. Hard to believe she'll continue for much longer as the coach with their new conference. Listening to him recently, I can guarantee Geno would have retired soon if he had to travel cross-country a dozen times a year just to play conference games. At their ages, they are too accomplished (and wealthy) to have to go through this for long.

It was kinda sickening to see very little praise of Geno's (co-)achievement of also overtaking coach K this year, while Tara's (deservedly) got tons of coverage.
 
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Slightly OT, but since we're bringing it up, while it's crazy that a storied program like Stanford has to play teams all the way across the country, it's equally crazy that Oregon State, which will return with a title-contending roster (barring defections in the portal) goes from a P5 conference to almost no conference at all other than agreement from WCC to put some games on their schedule.
 

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So ... I believe Stanford won 30 games this season and Uconn is at 33 with a possible 2 more at the FF. That would closing the gap by 3-5 wins this year.

And just an aside... in looking at Tara's wiki page, I noticed that she is now being credited with wins while she was on a leave of absence from Stanford during 1995-96 season while she coached the National Team prior to the 1996 Olympics. A long time ago when I looked (ten plus years ago) I am sure there was a one year gap in her coaching resume for that year. Curious when it got reinstated, because I believe she neither ran practices nor coached during any games that year. (It was not the same as taking time away from the team in the middle of the season. for a week because of sickness, etc.) No big deal and it is fun that they are actually neck and neck in a two person race.
 
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I got jumped on a few weeks back when I expressed sympathy for Tara that her achievement would likely be eclipsed so soon. Oh, the injustice of the social media age!

And I even made clear to point out that neither Tara or Geno is in this for records.
 
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With Stanford losing early and UConn in FF, Geno has 2 more wins and is now only 3 behind Tara. If Geno's and the team's miracle run (Geno's words) continues, we may erase one or two from that gap.

With the team coming back for us next year, and Tara having to travel 3K miles several times next year just to play league games, it's very likely that next year is when Geno will firmly be at the top of the list. Hard to believe she'll continue for much longer as the coach with their new conference. Listening to him recently, I can guarantee Geno would have retired soon if he had to travel cross-country a dozen times a year just to play conference games. At their ages, they are too accomplished (and wealthy) to have to go through this for long.

It was kinda sickening to see very little praise of Geno's (co-)achievement of also overtaking coach K this year, while Tara's (deservedly) got tons of coverage.
nobody cared about the third guy who climbed Mt. Everest either............:)
 
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So ... I believe Stanford won 30 games this season and Uconn is at 33 with a possible 2 more at the FF. That would closing the gap by 3-5 wins this year.

And just an aside... in looking at Tara's wiki page, I noticed that she is now being credited with wins while she was on a leave of absence from Stanford during 1995-96 season while she coached the National Team prior to the 1996 Olympics. A long time ago when I looked (ten plus years ago) I am sure there was a one year gap in her coaching resume for that year. Curious when it got reinstated, because I believe she neither ran practices nor coached during any games that year. (It was not the same as taking time away from the team in the middle of the season. for a week because of sickness, etc.) No big deal and it is fun that they are actually neck and neck in a two person race.
Wait! Are you saying Tara got credit for games where she was not the game coach? Is that the way it works everywhere? Does Geno get to count the games where CD was the game coach?
 

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Wait! Are you saying Tara got credit for games where she was not the game coach? Is that the way it works everywhere? Does Geno get to count the games where CD was the game coach?
Yes. Technically, if you are the head coach, you get the W & Ls.
 
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Keep in mind that 1) Tara has coached for about six years longer than Geno, so having three more wins over six more years is not impressive; and 2) her career winning percentage is something like .818, and his is .883. He's already the winningest coach.
 
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Keep in mind that 1) Tara has coached for about six years longer than Geno, so having three more wins over six more years is not impressive; and 2) her career winning percentage is something like .818, and his is .883. He's already the winningest coach.
Geno for many years had been eating away at Tara's lead, maybe a couple of games a year, but then the injury bug hit, and Stanford won a championship and just about the time Geno caught her, it expanded a little. Now things look like they are swing back Geno's way, and next year, on paper looks like we should have an edge, particularly with Brink departing.
 

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And just an aside... in looking at Tara's wiki page, I noticed that she is now being credited with wins while she was on a leave of absence from Stanford during 1995-96 season while she coached the National Team prior to the 1996 Olympics. A long time ago when I looked (ten plus years ago) I am sure there was a one year gap in her coaching resume for that year. Curious when it got reinstated, because I believe she neither ran practices nor coached during any games that year. (It was not the same as taking time away from the team in the middle of the season. for a week because of sickness, etc.) No big deal and it is fun that they are actually neck and neck in a two person race.
I'm nearly certain that Stanford's wins during that Olympic year do not count toward Tara's win total. Wikipedia isn't always the most accurate source.
 
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I'm nearly certain that Stanford's wins during that Olympic year do not count toward Tara's win total. Wikipedia isn't always the most accurate source.
It won't make any difference. In the next 3-4 years Uconn with the team we have now and the new recruits, Ali Ziebel and Morgan Cheli coming in, Uconn will win 105 to 140 more games and the rest will be history.GENO WILL ALWAYS BE NUMBER ONE for ALL TIME. Never to be passed. GO GENO!!! GO FRESHMEN!!!! GO GO HUSKIES!!!!!
 
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It won't make any difference. In the next 3-4 years Uconn with the team we have now and the new recruits, Ali Ziebel and Morgan Cheli coming in, Uconn will win 105 to 140 more games and the rest will be history.GENO WILL ALWAYS BE NUMBER ONE for ALL TIME. Never to be passed. GO GENO!!! GO FRESHMEN!!!! GO GO HUSKIES!!!!!
It is time for all of the Freshmen to make that "Sophomore Jump" as they enter the Cleveland facilities for the game vs. IOWA, and all of the Seniors do not acquire a foul until the fourth Quarter (if then) and it's just lights out for a UConn big lead in the first quarter that is never relinquished.

Go Huskies!!!
 

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I'm nearly certain that Stanford's wins during that Olympic year do not count toward Tara's win total. Wikipedia isn't always the most accurate source.
You are correct I just checked and while the Wiki page lists that season, the total wins does not include it.

Hadn't checked the actual numbers.
 
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The question then becomes who retires first. Does Tara feel strongly enough about the record to try and outlast Geno? Will the huge increase in travel for Stanford by joining the ACC affect her decision? Those trips to upstate NY, Pittsburgh, Boston, the Carolinas in winter might just be too much.
 

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The question then becomes who retires first. Does Tara feel strongly enough about the record to try and outlast Geno? Will the huge increase in travel for Stanford by joining the ACC affect her decision? Those trips to upstate NY, Pittsburgh, Boston, the Carolinas in winter might just be too much.
When Geno congratulated Tara and then again later when he also passed Coach K, he mentioned that he most likely would never catch Tara.

Ironically he now has a good chance. The huskies will be good again next year with usual tough out of conference schedule and smooth big east. Stanford looks to be having a down year and of course faces a new challenging acc schedule/travel.

If conservatively UConn has 2 losses and Stanford 7 going into NCAA tourney that's a big swing in 1 year for win totals.

Neither Geno or Tara really needs the recognition, as both have done so much for women's basketball, but it would be fun to see Geno hold the record even briefly.
 
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Geno has said recently that he won't be the one to hold this record, so he probably has a good idea that he's retiring before Tara despite the slight age difference. Geno has other things in his life that he probably wants to spend more time on like his restaurants, golf, etc. and records like this have never really meant that much to him anyway.
 
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So ... I believe Stanford won 30 games this season and Uconn is at 33 with a possible 2 more at the FF. That would closing the gap by 3-5 wins this year.

And just an aside... in looking at Tara's wiki page, I noticed that she is now being credited with wins while she was on a leave of absence from Stanford during 1995-96 season while she coached the National Team prior to the 1996 Olympics. A long time ago when I looked (ten plus years ago) I am sure there was a one year gap in her coaching resume for that year. Curious when it got reinstated, because I believe she neither ran practices nor coached during any games that year. (It was not the same as taking time away from the team in the middle of the season. for a week because of sickness, etc.) No big deal and it is fun that they are actually neck and neck in a two person race.
‘Figures lie and liars figure” and I still do batting averages and era calculations in my ancient head. Geno Auriemma is the best coach ever and only one number matters.
 
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Geno is getting near the end of the line. If he coached three more years I would be shocked. He has that look that coaches get when the effort is no longer worth the toll it takes on your mind and body. He may not have the most wins, he may never have the most wins, but he is and will be heralded as the greatest WCBB coach of all time. A distinction he has earned many times over.
 

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RankNameYearsWinsLossesPct.Teams (Seasons)
1Tara VanDerveer**451,216271.818Idaho (1978–80), Ohio State (1980–85), Stanford(1985–95, 1996–)
2Geno Auriemma**391,213161.883UConn(1985–)
3Pat Summitt **381,098208.841Tennessee(1974–2012)
4Barbara Stevens **431,058291.784Clark (MA)(1977–83), Massachusetts(1983–86), Bentley(1986–2020)
5C. Vivian Stringer **501,055426.712Cheyney(1971–83), Iowa (1983–95), Rutgers(1995–2022)
6Sylvia Hatchell **441,023405.716Francis Marion(1975–86), North Carolina(1986–2019)
7Muffet McGraw **38936293.762Lehigh (1982–87), Notre Dame (1987–2020)
8Andy Yosinoff46915306.750Emmanuel (MA) (1977–)
9Jim Foster*40903347.722Saint Joseph's(1978–91), Vanderbilt(1991–2002), Ohio State(2002–13), Chattanooga(2013–2018)
10Jody Conradt **38900309.744Sam Houston(1969–73), UT Arlington(1973–76), Texas (1976–2007)
11-TTom Shirley42881378.700DeSales(1981–89), Jefferson(1989–)
11-TLisa Bluder40881395.690St. Ambrose(1984–90), Drake (1990–2000), Iowa(2000–)
13Joe Foley37866324.728Arkansas Tech(1987–2003), Little Rock(2003–)
14Robin Selvig38865286.752Montana(1978–2016)
15Andy Landers *36862299.742Georgia(1979–2015)
16Gary Blair**37852348.710Stephen F. Austin (1985–93), Arkansas(1993–2003), Texas A&M(2003–2022)
17Curt Fredrickson39846306.734Northern State(1977–83, 1985–2018)
18Wes Moore35829256.764Maryville (TN)(1987–93), Francis Marion(1995–98), Chattanooga(1998–2013), NC State(2013–)
19Kevin Borseth37821316.722Michigan Tech(1987–98), Michigan(2007–12), Green Bay(1998–2007, 2012–)
20Michael Strong34815182.817Scranton(1979–94, 1995–2014)
21David Slifer35805278.743Mount Mercy(1989–95), Missouri Western State(1995–2004), Central Missouri(2004–)
22Mike Davis35797349.695Columbia (MO) (2001–14), Central Methodist(1987–99, 2015–)[4]
23Doug Bruno *38786405.660DePaul (1976–78, 1988–)
24Harry Perretta42783489.616Villanova(1978–2020)
25Nancy Fahey *36779232.771Washington (MO) (1986–2017), Illinois(2017–2022)
26Bill Fennelly36777366.680Toledo (1988–95), Iowa State(1995–)
27Joe McKeown38768414.650New Mexico State (1986–89), George Washington(1989–2008), Northwestern(2008–)
28Michael Miller38759255.749Messiah(1986–)
29Phillip Kahler34757171.816St. John Fisher(1974–2008)
30Glenn Wilkes Jr.38753330.695Rollins (1986–)
31Gordy Presnell37751368.671Seattle Pacific(1987–2005), Boise State(2005–)
32Michael Durbin39749284.725Wittenberg(1985–86), Saint Benedict(1986–)
33Dixie Jeffers39744287.722Rio Grande(1983–86), Capital (1986–2022)
34Mark Campbell25742116.865Union (TN)(1999–)
35Debbie Ryan *34739324.695Virginia (1977–2011)
36Kay Yow **38737344.682Elon (1971–75), NC State(1975–2009)
37Joanne Bracker *42736403.646Midland (NE)(1970–2012)
38Dale Neal26735185.799Freed–Hardeman(1994–2020)
39Kim Mulkey[a]24722117.861Baylor (2000–2021), LSU(2021–)
40Kris Huffman31721148.830DePauw(1993–)
41Judy Blinstrub39719330.685Babson(1984–2023)
42Brian Morehouse2871198.879Hope (1996–)
43Sue Gunter**34708308.697Stephen F. Austin (1968–80), LSU(1982–2004)
44Cindy Russo38707408.634Lamar (1978–80), FIU(1977–78, 1980–2015)
45Lonnie Kruse33706244.743Sterling (KS)(1981–2014)
46Joan Bonvicini36701421.625Long Beach State (1979–91), Arizona(1991–2008), Seattle (2009–2016)
47-TStephanie Gaitley37698410.630Richmond(1985–91), Saint Joseph's(1991–2001), LIU Brooklyn(2002–08), Monmouth(2008–11), Fordham(2011–2022), FDU (2023–)
47-TJohn Wethington35698409.631Lindsey Wilson(1989–)[5]
49Dave Krauth34695302.697Augustana (SD) (1989–2023)
50-TConnie Tilley42693312.690St. Norbert(1977–2019)
50-TRene Portland31693265.723Saint Joseph's(1976–78), Colorado(1978–80), Penn State(1980–2007)
52Carmen Dolfo33691262.725Western Washington(1990–2003, 2004–)
53Yvonne Kauffman42689328.677Elizabethtown(1970–2012)
54Cheri Harrer34688246.737Baldwin Wallace(1990–)
55Theresa Grentz **35681362.653Saint Joseph's(1974–76), Rutgers(1976–95), Illinois (1995–2007), Lafayette(2015–17)
56Jamie Sale26680208.766Briar Cliff(1998–2001), Morningside(2001–)[6]
57Brian Niemuth37679298.695Simpson(1987–)
58Russ Davis28677185.785Vanguard(1996–)[7]
59David Smalley32676350.659Rio Grande(1992–)[8]
60Nancy Winstel32675255.726Midway(1978–81), Northern Kentucky(1983–2012)
61Karl Smesko25672137.831Walsh (1997–98), Purdue Fort Wayne(1999–2001), FGCU (2002–)
62Amy Ruley*29671198.772North Dakota State (1979–2008)
63Lisa Stone36667375.640Cornell (IA)(1985–88), Wisconsin–Eau Claire(1988–2000), Drake (2000–2003), Wisconsin(2003–2011), Saint Louis(2012–2022)
64Fred Richter34665254.724De Sales(1990–)
65Nancy Funk40663353.653Messiah(1977–86), Johns Hopkins(1986–2017)
66Gary Fifield27660137.828Southern Maine (1987–2008, 2009–15)
67Steve Brooks24659176.789Indiana Wesleyan(1999–2016), Saint Francis(2017–21), Marian (IN)(2021–)[9]
68Lisa Stockton33654371.638Greensboro College(1987–90), Tulane(1994–)
69Lonnie Bartley31652258.716Fort Valley State (1984–2013, 2015–2017)
70Mike McLaughlin28650223.745Holy Family(1995–2009), Penn (2009–2020, 2021–)
71Tim Shea30649197.767Salem State(1981–2011)
72Mary Beth Spirk37648345.653Moravian(1987–)
73Carroll LaHaye38647376.632Randolph–Macon (1982–2020)
74-TMichael McDevitt32646224.743Southern Maine (2008–09), St. Joseph (ME)(1987–2003, 2009–)
74-TJoanne P. McCallie28646255.717Maine (1992–2000), Michigan State(2000–2007), Duke (2007–2020)
76Mary Fleig37645377.631Franklin & Marshall(1983–90), Millersville(1990–2020)
77Jeff Mittie32644370.635Missouri Western(1992–95), Arkansas St.(1995–99), TCU (1999–2014), Kansas St. (2014–)
78Stephanie Findley37640484.569Oklahoma Christian(1985–)
79Brenda Frese25639191.770Ball State(1999–2001), Minnesota(2001–02), Maryland(2002–)
80Robin Hagen-Smith24637161.798Shawnee State(1989–2013)
81Tom Jessee31636273.700Bluefield St.(1988–1997), Tampa(2002–)
82Bob Schneider *28634201.759Texas Woman's(1978–81), West Texas A&M (1981–2006)
83Lori Culler35633430.595Huntington(1986–2022)
84Buffie Burson30632284.690North Georgia(1994–)
85Kathleen Delaney-Smith39630434.592Harvard(1982–2020, 2021–2022)
86-TGene Roebuck25628145.812North Dakota(1987–2012)
86-TDavid Smith34628333.653St. Joseph's (IN) (1976–78, 1984–90), Shippensburg(1990–98), Bellarmine(1998–2012), West Virginia State (2012–2016)
88Chris Gobrecht44626662.486Cal State Fullerton(1979–1985), Washington(1985–1996), Florida St.(1996–97), Southern California(1997–2004), Yale (2005–2015), Air Force (2015–)
89-TBill Gibbons Jr.34613410.599Holy Cross(1985–2019)
89-TRobert Skinner44613586.511Paine (1980–1991), Albany St. (GA)(1991–)
91Susan Dunagan33611271.693Roanoke(1981–2014)
92-TDawn Staley23608186.766Temple(2000–2008), South Carolina(2008–)
92-TWendy Larry27608234.722Virginia Wesleyan(1977–78), Arizona(1985–87), Old Dominion(1987–2011)
92-TSharon Fanning36608460.569Chattanooga(1976–87), Kentucky(1987–95), Mississippi State (1995–2012)
92-TWendee Saintsing35608368.623Barton(1989–)
96-TJoe Ciampi*27607213.740Army (1977–79), Auburn(1979–2004)
96-TMike Granelli32607249.709Saint Peter's (NJ) (1972–2004)
98J. Randall Ognibene33606264.697Mount Saint Mary (1980–2013)
99Kelly Graves27605273.689Sint Mary's (CA) (1997–2000), Gonzaga(2000–14), Oregon(2014–)
100Lynne Agee33602334.643Roanoke(1978–81), UNC Greensboro(1981–2011)
101G. P. Gromacki2360188.872St. Lawrence(1998–2004), Hamilton(2006–07), Amherst(2007–)
 
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Geno is getting near the end of the line. If he coached three more years I would be shocked. He has that look that coaches get when the effort is no longer worth the toll it takes on your mind and body. He may not have the most wins, he may never have the most wins, but he is and will be heralded as the greatest WCBB coach of all time. A distinction he has earned many times over.
He was asked in the USC post-game presser how he liked playing this regional in Portland because it's going to be the final four site in I think five seasons from now, and he said something along the lines of it's great but I'll be watching from my couch with my grand kids next time it's here. If they win #12 this weekend, I wouldn't be shocked if he calls it a career a few weeks after that while no one's paying attention.
 
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He was asked in the USC post-game presser how he liked playing this regional in Portland because it's going to be the final four site in I think five seasons from now, and he said something along the lines of it's great but I'll be watching from my couch with my grand kids next time it's here. If they win #12 this weekend, I wouldn't be shocked if he calls it a career a few weeks after that while no one's paying attention.
I think he was joking. Who knows how long he will coach, but he doesn’t appear to be done anytime soon. Maybe it’s 5 years from now? However, it won’t certainly be this year even they pulled off the win especially with Paige coming back.
 

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