Geno and Veganism

[BroadwayVa]

I drive by a whole bunch of them every day. They're in a field and they look just like beef cattle.

If your friends were not over weight--no one would buy them--anything.

Ditching dairy made the biggest difference for me. Once I found great vegan options to replace cheese and Ice cream I was/am a happy girl! I don't eat any animal products at all or any fish.

Me either I gave up eating animal producst now I just go to Mc' D's for all my meals.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Ever think of the people who move into the country for those smells --then demand the farmer shutdown operations because of the odor?
Happen a couple of times in Ct.

A couple, huh? But mostly in CT it was the next generation who did not want to be dairy farmers and when mom and dad passed the land was sold off so there could be big boxes on the hillside and they are all made of tickey tacky and they all look just the same (like Geno's house, actually).

 

[HoopsFan21]

Ever think of the people who move into the country for those smells --then demand the farmer shutdown operations because of the odor?
Happen a couple of times in Ct.

What towns in Connecticut would you consider country? We have basically no agriculture to speak of here, and almost all of the state is considered (sub)urban by U.S. census bureau standards.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

If your friends were not over weight--no one would buy them--anything.

Me either I gave up eating animal producst now I just go to Mc' D's for all my meals.

Oh God! We have truly awaken the slumbering beast - the great dietary debate. Remember the grapefruit diet? How many times can the Osmond chick lose the same 50 pounds? How many times can Oprah? Stitch her being giving how many millions and 20% of the company to promote yo yo dieting.

Please, you GNC fadists speak up! Let's quit, okay?

 

[BroadwayVa]

A couple, huh? But mostly in CT it was the next generation who did not want to be dairy farmers and when mom and dad passed the land was sold off so there could be big boxes on the hillside and they are all made of tickey tacky and they all look just the same (like Geno's house, actually).

This CT lady lives on about 200 acres adjacent to Bradley---got so much flack she put it in trust and keeps chugging and stinking up Suffield --and grins every day--has about 200 cows in pasture around town, many many pure bred dogs, cats, goats, pigs, you need boots to walk around . I enjoyed the place--she and hubby were teaches for 30 plus years each in the area. Got the land from daddy.

 

[Bigboote]

vegans are great until they blow those keytones in you face.

LOL, but, that's more likely a result of the Atkins diet -- fat in the absence of sugar. When I was looking into the Atkins diet (not for myself, but when a friend started on it), acetone breath was one of the things they said to look out for.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

What towns in Connecticut would you consider country? We have basically no agriculture to speak of here, and almost all of the state is considered (sub)urban by U.S. census bureau standards.

I guess you are relatively young for a UConn fan? But for the Naugutuck Valley and pockets of industry in ... aw, heck with it. Look it up. Who is speaking today. Broadway is talking what was and what isn't any more. Yeah, CT is now a place that has it's pretty spots, some nice views, too much traffic and too many people (and a bloated government, etc etc etc.).

 

[GoUconn7961]

My final comment. Veganism isn't a diet. It is a lifestyle based on compassion. Yes, I see you all rolling your eyes, but that is what I believe. The benefits I've experienced are simply a bonus. I'm not here to judge or change minds. But, I will dispute things about it that aren't true. Kid me (or the premise of being vegan) all you like, because it does fly in the face of "traditions" but I am sincere in my reasons for not eating animals or using animal products. We all choose our own path..

 

[AndyCT]

I respect vegans and vegetarians, but -- I know quite a few overweight vegetarians. And as one who eats a moderate amount of meat, I run marathons and lost 30 pounds after I had knee surgery (as a result of being able to run more).

Depends on whether they're vegetarians, or just don't eat meat. A lot of people who give up meat still eat lots of rice, potatoes, bread, butter, carbs, stuff like that. Been there, done that., still doing that. My significant other is more of a "vegetable vegetarian" so while I get excited about tortellini, she gets excited about the garnish. But the farther you get away from processed foods, the more you get away from weight problems...

No?

No. That's a vegetable, not a vegetarian. Vegetarians eat vegetables.

Sometimes, the vegetable eat the vegetarians. Kind of like Audrey.

Beware the rise of the killer V's

 

[HoopsFan21]

I guess you are relatively young for a UConn fan? But for the Naugutuck Valley and pockets of industry in ... aw, heck with it. Look it up. Who is speaking today. Broadway is talking what was and what isn't any more. Yeah, CT is now a place that has it's pretty spots, some nice views, too much traffic and too many people (and a bloated government, etc etc etc.).

I'm in my 20s. Connecticut is a suburb for NYC and Boston. The state is mostly full of professionals in the teaching, accounting, finance, legal, and medical fields. People hoping the '50s or '60s come back are going to be really really disappointed.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

I'm in my 20s. Connecticut is a suburb for NYC and Boston. The state is mostly full of professionals in the teaching, accounting, finance, legal, and medical fields. People hoping the '50s or '60s come back are going to be really really disappointed.

I had no expectation of that, so I packed up the Packard and moved to Montana. Why Broadway doesn't wise up, well he can speak for himself.

 

[BroadwayVa]

I guess you are relatively young for a UConn fan? But for the Naugutuck Valley and pockets of industry in ... aw, heck with it. Look it up. Who is speaking today. Broadway is talking what was and what isn't any more. Yeah, CT is now a place that has it's pretty spots, some nice views, too much traffic and too many people (and a bloated government, etc etc etc.).[/QUOTEzm/

North east and north west Ct still have some open spaces and forest. Loads of small farms around Ct--albeit the huge Milk industry is nearly gone, but tobacco is still doing well( certainly not of the pre 70 days--. As a youth in CT it was reported that there was more forest in Ct then than when the revolution began. In the 30's and back Connecticut was thought of as so ag that all it's citizens were "hicks" Small town people spoke New England Yankee--A---ah

Your last sentence --along with snow added--and a comment or two (I won't make) --says everything why I left ---add taxes --when you pay 10 percent of the taxes, require no Polution stickers or testing, gasoline abt 70 percent or less than Ct--why stay--I went back after being away for most of 40 years- mostly to go to Uconn games--spent 2 years and ran away quickly. Loads of good memories but they are only memories.

 

[DefenseBB]

I grew up eating meat. Yes - it still smells good when someone cooks it. No I don't miss it. I've heard every comeback - every argument - every insult - and I'll still remain Vegan. I do it for myself, the planet and the animals. I can take a joke with the best of them too. But sometimes people trolling me online (not here) just to say "mmm bacon" only proves my point; not theirs.

In regards to Food choices my father used said: "to each his own, just don't extoll or preach you choices as superior", which as in this case, stating how much better it is being a vegan, is leading to a divergence of opinion as for some reason both sides get defensive about their choice and denigrate the other to justify theirs.

I am happy for you and sorry for grief you may have gotten from others but on this thread you started the comments on how great it is. Thanks but no thanks. Keep up the exercise and life a long life. Keep posting basketball on BY..

 

[BroadwayVa]

I had no expectation of that, so I packed up the Packard and moved to Montana. Why Broadway doesn't wise up, well he can speak for himself.

Golly gee whiz Oscar---I caint cuz'n I've was ed y cated in Corneticut--I's a suron that I cud nt be one of those high fl ah lootin professyional's as spo kin about --ifn I hed stay in Nooo York --or Bossy town--I could be liv in high cotton or slupin up hog jowls.
Dum poor me--

 

[BroadwayVa]

In regards to Food choices my father used said: "to each his own, just don't extoll or preach you choices as superior", which as in this case, stating how much better it is being a vegan, is leading to a divergence of opinion as for some reason both sides get defensive about their choice and denigrate the other to justify theirs.

I am happy for you and sorry for grief you may have gotten from others but on this thread you started the comments on how great it is. Thanks but no thanks. Keep up the exercise and life a long life. Keep posting basketball on BY..

I like your daddy--smart guy. Vegan's and I've know more than a few---I tried it--lost weight--never found anything I could get used to eating---got all the high power blenders, etc to make those delicious (for someone else) slurpies--so now I eat like better than 90 percent of the fast food Americans--with real food --some grown, some bought--you don't have to be a vegan to eat healthy

To EACH HIS OWN ---I Found my own----you know I should write a song--do you think the Ink Spots would record it???

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Golly gee whiz Oscar---I caint cuz'n I've was ed y cated in Corneticut--I's a suron that I cud nt be one of those high fl ah lootin professyional's as spo kin about --ifn I hed stay in Nooo York --or Bossy town--I could be liv in high cotton or slupin up hog jowls.
Dum poor me--

We are plainly enjoying this too much and missing the NCAA tournament. Please send the recipe for slupin hog jowls. I'll send my prairie dog stew recipe.

 

[vtcwbuff]

Ever think of the people who move into the country for those smells --then demand the farmer shutdown operations because of the odor?
Happen a couple of times in Ct.

True story - A couple of years ago a couple moved from NYC to upstate rural Vermont. After they had been there a year or so they bitched in the local newspaper that the smell of manure in the spring (when farmers spread manure on their fields) was ruining their "life experience". They tried to start a movement to limit the amount of manure that farmers could spread. The response in the paper from the locals was priceless.

I enjoy "eau de Vermont" It reminds me of my youth spent walking barefoot in the barnyard.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

But the farther you get away from processed foods, the more you get away from weight problems...

Ah, we have agreement. 23 chemicals, don't forget Red Dye #70, and , oh yes, something that was once fresh food, but isn't.

 

[BroadwayVa]

True story - A couple of years ago a couple moved from NYC to upstate rural Vermont. After they had been there a year or so they bitched in the local newspaper that the smell of manure in the spring (when farmers spread manure on their fields) was ruining their "life experience". They tried to start a movement to limit the amount of manure that farmers could spread. The response in the paper from the locals was priceless.

I enjoy "eau de Vermont" It reminds me of my youth spent walking barefoot in the barnyard.

At least they didn't ask to put diapers on Cows and horses---One of my hundreds of Cousin --lives just 10 miles south of the border--on a huge lake been there 30 years---his family loves it--smells and all-- I spent a lot of time around and helping on cow farms--that smell does not bother me--but here the chickens do 100000 of chickens manure--when the wind is right --but I won't tell them they have to leave--they were here first.

 

[BroadwayVa]

We are plainly enjoying this too much and missing the NCAA tournament. Please send the recipe for slupin hog jowls. I'll send my prairie dog stew recipe.

Actually this has been a lot of fun---most of my comments were not serious---as one poster said---to each his own--
there is nothing on this earth , except my spouse and 2 of my 130 kids around the world, my 2 dogs and 5 cats (shedders you'd better believe it--aloof--self centered--smug animals) reminds my wife of me---that I give one hoot and a hollar (I love rural Virginian) about
so --this gave me a chance to play--but I have known and tried veggies-- and I did leave CT before the State Police, Major Rome, showed up and rode me from Barracks to Barracks to keep my attorney away--until I told them--I'm my own attorney--and Grand Pa.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Actually this has been a lot of fun---most of my comments were not serious---as one poster said---to each his own--
there is nothing on this earth , except my spouse and 2 of my 130 kids around the world, my 2 dogs and 5 cats (shedders you'd better believe it--aloof--self centered--smug animals) reminds my wife of me---that I give one hoot and a hollar (I love rural Virginian) about
so --this gave me a chance to play--but I have known and tried veggies-- and I did leave CT before the State Police, Major Rome, showed up and rode me from Barracks to Barracks to keep my attorney away--until I told them--I'm my own attorney--and Grand Pa.

You always start strong and then it all turns into hieroglyphic writing to me! Course, you are more educated than me. I'm just a simple country bumpkin now. Night Broadway. It has been fun.

 

[JordyG]

I will say one thing though - I'm 55 - dropped 36 pounds, can now run 6 miles a day and I'm off all prescription meds. Not bad for an old gal..

Go girl. Hit 'em high, hit 'em low. And just keep going.

 

[UConnNick]

What towns in Connecticut would you consider country? We have basically no agriculture to speak of here, and almost all of the state is considered (sub)urban by U.S. census bureau standards.

The Connecticut River valley produces what is generally considered to be the finest shade grown cigar wrapper tobacco in the world. It might still be the biggest cash crop in Conn. For what cigars cost these days, it ought to be.

 

[Lobo50Fan]

Vegetarian here, though I should probably move more towards being vegan since I'm slightly lactose intolerant. Haven't heard any crap yet from anyone, but it's been just under a year so there's still time, I suppose. I'm sure cutting out meat has helped me personally health wise, but cutting sugar consumption down helped most for me. Soda was huge for me all my life and taking that out was both difficult and rewarding.

 

[Icebear]

I get more crap being vegan than you can possible imagine. Every now and then I like to toss it back..lol.

It is always good to remember that being vegan is not a guarantee to weight loss. Just ask elephants and water buffalo and always remember to be polite because they can kick your ass.

 

[HardHatGuy#2]

How can you tell there is a marathon runner or vegan in the room? Just wait, they'll tell you.

 

[HardHatGuy#2]

On average vegans live longer than omnivores.

Gotta see data on this. I sincerely doubt you could bring meaningful data, since it would have to require a full lifespan of veganism, all the way from birth. That would mean no Colostrum Cocktail for the baby (animal product), so they'd start out life without an advanced immune system. Not many people would meet that, I would imagine.

Then you'd have to define "omnivore" more carefully, since nearly the entirety of Mankind is omnivorous, yet diets vary drastically by region. Beef is unheard of in some areas, wheat in others, lots of cultures have religions that ban different foods (animal and vegetable), some societies have diets that are deeply centered around oily fishes, others may not see an oily fish in their lifetime. You'd have to take all of them into consideration, and somehow eliminate all socio-politico-economic factors that my lead to changes in diet over a lifetime. Then you need to eliminate external factors such as smoking, drug use, physical activity, genetic considerations, disease...

No, I'm pretty sure that you couldn't prove this.

 

[OldAlum]

On the "no agriculture in CT" thing:
My credentials are that I have a degree from UConn school of Ag and worked for both CT Ag Dept and USDA in CT. There is a good bit of agriculture still in the state. No, CT is not an agricultural power, but it is not all suburbs and cities. Certainly it does not have large acreages you can find in other areas.

Dairy farming has declined greatly but is still to be found, helped in part by the Farmland Preservation Act which allowed some farmers to sell development rights to the State, guaranteeing the land would stay in agricultural use. (Greenbackers Dairy in Durham is one such farm) The fastest growing segment is the small, sustainable farm-to-table operations. These include organic meats and "truck farming" to grow various vegetables. Of course orchards are agriculture and are still part of our landscape. As was mentioned shade tobacco is still important as are greenhouse operations for retail/landscaping . Another growing segment are the wineries - I been making my way across CT's wine trail And there are still large egg and chicken farms which do not require much acreage.

I still enjoy visiting my college roommate's dairy farm in NW CT where local farmers have an interesting relationship with rich NY weekenders. Much of the hay land is rented from those folks who mostly want to preserve the views. But some farms have nearby McMansions with residents complaining about farm smells, etc. (Why must they make noise early on the weekend? The cows are mooing too loud!)

It is very difficult to get started if you don't inherit land (not new but even more difficult - I used to work on loans for this purpose) And it is tough when unprotected farms are sold for development. But there are still working farms in CT and new and different opportunities.

 

[GoUconn7961]

Vegetarian here, though I should probably move more towards being vegan since I'm slightly lactose intolerant. Haven't heard any crap yet from anyone, but it's been just under a year so there's still time, I suppose. I'm sure cutting out meat has helped me personally health wise, but cutting sugar consumption down helped most for me. Soda was huge for me all my life and taking that out was both difficult and rewarding.

I'm in the process of giving up sugar now. Congratulations on kick g the soda habit! My downfall is dessert..

 

[Roger G]

vegans are great until they blow those keytones in you face. Veggies and weight control may be great--as long as you know when your body is eating itself --first sign usually is the keytone breath.

Please explain this further. Is this because of lack of protein?