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The OP’s post strikes me as odd seeing that the last two years may be two of the best coaching jobs of his career. Taking a Paige-less team to the Final Four with only 5 guards and 2 forwards was a masterpiece and then he nearly did it again the next year with 4 freshmen, a junior, and 2 seniors, only falling by 2 points in the Elite 8. All this with a constantly changing rosters due to injury/illness and his own debilitating grief at the loss of his mother. What Geno got the team to achieve was incredible
Agree, last year with half his team missing, Geno deserved the National coach of the year award. I know of no other coach in Basketball who can do what he did, it was pure genius!
 

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Geno still recruits the best players, and gets the ones that he thinks will fit into his program best. They still win at a clip that is among the very best in college basketball while trying to play a difficult schedule before conference so I guess I don't see what you are seeing. Is there more parity in college basketball? Asbsolutely but that shouldn't be confused with Geno forgetting how to coach.
Recruiting is a 2 way street. These young ladies are choosing to come to UConn and be coached by Geno and Chris.

Recent challenges have all been about parity and UConn injuries.

If you are a fan of women's sports in general and ncaaw hoops, parity has been fantastic in creating more big games and bringing in more fans.

Geno has even been a patron saint of parity. He has brought media attention, taught others how to build a program, and mentored up and coming coaches.

Geno is just fine. The Huskies still have our best team since the 'core four' and are right in the mix to win #12.
 
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"Sounds really innovative. What current coaches are at the forefront of this thinking? It's weird how he's never thought of this before. And how should Auriemma go about doing this?"
(It's sometimes hard to read intent -- sans emoji's -- in a largely black and white medium. I'm guessing you have point of view, but your wording and jerseyguy's comment got me thinking.)

I think I'm getting the gist of this line of thought and will add one or two other scenario setters: In many instances, young woman are learning individual technical skills earlier and are also taking in more basketball (WCBB, WNBA, the NBA, etc.). Some of this is great, some of it results in five non-related, one-person shows in AAU events.

Through the 2019-20 season, you could count on two teams running a Princeton-based system that relied on ball and people movement, screens, a mix of shot-making and lack of turnovers: UConn and Notre Dame. Both coaches made allowances for individual talents to shine, but they fit in within that offense. I'd say that Niele Ivey has changed that dynamic a bit for ND.

Coach Ivey has largely eschewed the Princeton offense, as McGraw taught it, in favor of getting ball players who can -- and must -- create their own shots, whether through dribble penetration, pull-up jumpers, etc. The "team aspect" comes into play via working off high screens (Hidalgo and Westbeld are masters of the pick and pop); an off-ball player reacting to dribble penetration (Miles dribbling and Citron back-door cutting or fading to the arc for a three). One will see elements of the Princeton with players setting screens, then curling into open areas (usually Citron and Westbeld).

The similarity to the "old ND" is the transition game. McGraw and Ivey will always get solid rebounders who can throw outlet passes (Jess Shepard, Westbeld, Kate Koval) to the guards, all of whom are fast and technically adept on the break.

Ivey believes young talent largely wants to play in up-tempo, high-scoring offenses...and they want to get to the pro's. To that end, she hired Carlos Knox, who was in the WNBA for a long stretch, to work on skills that will help them make the transition. Westbeld is a disciple of Knox, particularly on footwork. Meanwhile, Ivey oversees tape review with her point guards, Miles and Hidalgo. Plus, there is a constant stream of ND alums coming into work, from Diggins-Smith (a South Bend native) to Kayla McBride.

There is a constant amount of work to balance this "I/We" continuum into player and team to match Ivey philosophy and players' talents. It's a hard take and one reason why I think ND recruiting is hit or miss: she's after a particular player. But when she hits it -- see Miles, Hidalgo, Soni Citron -- it soars.

That said, it's awfully hard to critique what Geno and Chris Dailey have done, from recruiting to creating one beautiful offense that can hum like few others. Save for Strong and Bueckers, most of the half-court sets seem to dictate what many players are doing. Perhaps, that's why I liked what I saw of KK Arnold driving hard and Chen getting off her mid-range game. Softened up ND's defense.

It will be interesting to see variations or similarities once Azzi and Aubrey come back.
Yeah I should’ve used an emoji in there. I guess I disguised how half baked I thought the guy’s statement was. Obviously most competent coaches are all attempting to do what this guy describes so I wanted to see him justify his statement. In retrospect I realize that’s probably not going to happen. I’m aware of and agree with most of your points and it will be interesting to see which coaches do the best job of it by tournament time.
 

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Really surprised this has survived this deep into the day. Some may have detected I have issues with Geno, BUT not his coaching skills. For quite some years there has been almost unanimity in commentators pointing out AAU and similar programs emphasizing games over skills development has taken a toll, frankly with both genders. Kids actually get to college not able to set or get around or screen a pick! Geno has said the program has not been immune from this. Freshman are learning fundamentals when they should be advancing their game. Some kids have personal ball trainers in HS and some continue that in college. Another factor is where is the kid's head at, and at this Geno and Company are masters, but it is hard to be perfect. A recent 6' 5" was an utter disaster because of this. Some years back a #1 recruit never lived up to her potential because she had issues being coached. Geno worked with that as best he could, but I believe she left early.

The issue is not with the coach but the softness of too many recruits.
 

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Yeah I should’ve used an emoji in there. I guess I disguised how half baked I thought the guy’s statement was. Obviously most competent coaches are all attempting to do what this guy describes so I wanted to see him justify his statement. In retrospect I realize that’s probably not going to happen. I’m aware of and agree with most of your points and it will be interesting to see which coaches do the best job of it by tournament time.
Agree. Among the top teams, I think we're seeing a lot of works in progress. Transfers and massive frosh classes can be a challenge. And not all of it is linear, with players coming and going due to injuries, illnesses, etc. Stay tuned.
 
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Really surprised this has survived this deep into the day. Some may have detected I have issues with Geno, BUT not his coaching skills. For quite some years there has been almost unanimity in commentators pointing out AAU and similar programs emphasizing games over skills development has taken a toll, frankly with both genders. Kids actually get to college not able to set or get around or screen a pick! Geno has said the program has not been immune from this. Freshman are learning fundamentals when they should be advancing their game. Some kids have personal ball trainers in HS and some continue that in college. Another factor is where is the kid's head at, and at this Geno and Company are masters, but it is hard to be perfect. A recent 6' 5" was an utter disaster because of this. Some years back a #1 recruit never lived up to her potential because she had issues being coached. Geno worked with that as best he could, but I believe she left early.

The issue is not with the coach but the softness of too many recruits.
As part of your post recognizes part of the coaching job is evaluating recruits and whether they "have what it takes" (on several levels) to perform at your school's level of competition? I'd posit that this is one of Geno's biggest weaknesses over the past several years. #1 overall recruits come in what seems like every year and too many of them don't perform to the level expected.
 
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I realize that what I’m about to propose is going to upset some of you, but I believe there is some truth in it. Geno deciding to coach women’s basketball has undoubtedly been a blessing to not only the growth of that sport but women’s sports in general. We found out that “girls” just want to be treated like athletes, that they are strong and just as competitive as guys and they could be coached hard and not pampered. He came along at just the right time, but things change, the women coming up now are different, and he’s not adjusted to those changes. He is without a doubt the greatest teacher of the game since Wooden, but women know how to play the game now, thanks in large part to him. What they need is to have their individual skill set refined, and incorporated into a team and game setting. Things change, we have to be flexible enough to adapt, or perhaps it’s time to step aside.
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Good thing this is virtual. No need for an escort outta here. lol If I ever need backup I'll definitely give you a ring.
Enjoy the remainder of your contract, GENO!!!!
Go Huskies, Go UCONN.
My comment is only meant to be
a response to the #1 comment on this thread. Jerseyguy68's
original posting concerning "Geno's vision".
 
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