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Tbh, if you look at the best 2 backcourt defenders in the team the past 20 years, it's not even clear that Gilbert and Vital were above average.

Here's my list of the top 2 backcourt defenders on the team each year(some may disagree):

2001 - 2003: Talik, Gordon
2004 - 2006: Marcus Williams, Denham (for my money this is the only group Gilbert and Vital are definitively better than defensively)
2007 - 2008: Dyson, Price
2009 - 2010: Dyson, Kemba
2011: Kemba, Shabazz
2012 - 2014: Bazz, Boat
2015: Boat, Purvis
2016: Jalen Adams, Purvis
2017 - last year: Gilbert, Vital
 
Tbh, if you look at the best 2 backcourt defenders in the team the past 20 years, it's not even clear that Gilbert and Vital were above average.

Here's my list of the top 2 backcourt defenders on the team each year(some may disagree):

2001 - 2003: Talik, Gordon
2004 - 2006: Marcus Williams, Denham (for my money this is the only group Gilbert and Vital are definitively better than defensively)
2007 - 2008: Dyson, Price
2009 - 2010: Dyson, Kemba
2011: Kemba, Shabazz
2012 - 2014: Bazz, Boat
2015: Boat, Purvis
2016: Jalen Adams, Purvis
2017 - last year: Gilbert, Vital

I never really got the hullaballoo with AGs defense tbh. Yeah he pressured the ball well, but it always seemed to me that he got scored over at the rim a lot because of his height.

He wasn't BAD at.defense like Bouk or anythong. Just not great
 
I never really got the hullaballoo with AGs defense tbh. Yeah he pressured the ball well, but it always seemed to me that he got scored over at the rim a lot because of his height.

He wasn't BAD at.defense like Bouk or anythong. Just not great
Greatly exaggerated. He was fine, pesky, but he got beat by bigger guards constantly.
 
I never really got the hullaballoo with AGs defense tbh. Yeah he pressured the ball well, but it always seemed to me that he got scored over at the rim a lot because of his height.

He wasn't BAD at.defense like Bouk or anythong. Just not great
He was a solid on ball defender and at times was really good at moving his feet, getting pressure on guys without fouling, disrupting plays etc. But the advanced stats show he wasn’t a great defender. Per last seasons team stats, he was 6th in defensive rating, 4th in defensive win shares, and 7th in DBPM. I’ll give you that it felt like at times he was smothering dudes and frustrating players, but best duo ever? Come on now... and to me, duo is any two players, not just back court. That list would include Emeka, Hasheem, etc etc.
 
Are you going to enlighten us with your thoughts on ...best defensive duos ever? You can't tell someone to pump the brakes and not share your opinion.
See BGesus4's post.
 
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Are you going to enlighten us with your thoughts on ...best defensive duos ever? You can't tell someone to pump the brakes and not share your opinion.
Okafor, Taliek Brown
Ricky Moore, Jake Voskuhl
Henefeld, DePriest
Boatright, Napier
Boone, Armstrong
Boone, Okafor
 
Okafor, Taliek Brown
Ricky Moore, Jake Voskuhl
Henefeld, DePriest
Boatright, Napier
Boone, Armstrong
Boone, Okafor
Unless I'm confused, I think the discussion was about best backcourt defensive duos.
 
Unless I'm confused, I think the discussion was about best backcourt defensive duos.
That may have been what the OP was going for, but was not what he said. He called Gilbert/Vital one of the best defensive duos ever
 

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