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lange10 said:
A backcourt of Adams, Gilbert, Vital, Beatty, MAL and Harvey/Hamidou just doesn't seem likely in my mind. I understand that Harvey and Diallo are 5* recruits and likely start wherever they go, however, I just don't see a commitment from more than 1 of MAL/Hamidou/Harvey if we land Beatty, or any other SG for that matter.
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Yeah if we get Beatty, I'm pretty sure we won't be getting both MAL and Diallo. Tbh I'll take MAL over Diallo in the long run.
 
We have five open scholarships at the moment for 2017 and no commitments. Beatty is a 4* though it appears largely unranked although 247 composite has him at 126 I think. He can score, is a willing passer and has some size at 6-3. If he decides to come here you celebrate and take him happily. The more knowledgeable recruiting guys like @husky99, @tcf15, @Zionn and @Huskyforlife among several others can correct me if I am wrong but I don't think his commitment would stop either Diallo or MAL from coming here in and of itself. Diallo probably considers himself a one and done and may not be coming here anyway. MAL and Beatty could easily coexist on the same team. Diallo would be facing much stiffer competition for minutes at Kentucky or Duke who will be stocked with 5* players at all positions. I think you take the bird in the hand happily in this case if we are lucky enough to get a commitment from him.
 
80shusky said:
We have five open scholarships at the moment for 2017 and no commitments. Beatty is a 4* though it appears largely unranked although 247 composite has him at 126 I think. He can score, is a willing passer and has some size at 6-3. If he decides to come here you celebrate and take him happily. The more knowledgeable recruiting guys like @husky99, @tcf15, @Zionn and @Huskyforlife among several others can correct me if I am wrong but I don't think his commitment would stop either Diallo or MAL from coming here in and of itself. Diallo probably considers himself a one and done and may not be coming here anyway. MAL and Beatty could easily coexist on the same team. Diallo would be facing much stiffer competition for minutes at Kentucky or Duke who will be stocked with 5* players at all positions. I think you take the bird in the hand happily in this case if we are lucky enough to get a commitment from him.
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This post by 80shusky captures my thoughts 100%. If a player is good enough to be thinking about the NBA then they have to be confident enough to face the competition at UConn from 3-4 other quality guards for playing time. Adams, Gilbert, Vital, Beatty, is a solid group even if we don't get a 5th quality guard. I have seen Beatty as high as #72 but forget which listing. Add MAL, as a point, and/or either Diallo or DJ Harvey to play wing in small ball or 2 guard when you want to play big. Getting 2 of these 3 players is probably too much to wish for but any 1 of the 3 with Larrier and Jackson in the fold gives us a whole lot at the 1-3 positions.
 
If Beatty committed it would only be a good thing for Diallo. These kids love to play with talent. Minutes won't be a problem for him, no matter who is in the backcourt.

Let's just hope Diallo is more of a Drummond than a Kentucky showcase. Can't blame him if he goes the latter though, I would seriously consider if I was a one and done talent.
 
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tcf15 said:
Nope - the recent courtside films mixtapes of him have me sold. Kind of reminds me of bruce brown (not as high-flying though).
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Definitely has a tighter handle than Brown did IMO. Brown will be a better finisher, though. Beatty fits the mold as a 2 guard in a 2 PG offense, is athletic and should have a reliable jumper as an upperclassman. I'm sold too.
 
Never was insinuating I didn't want the kid. Take talent when you can get it, we can't sit back and wait for the hope of others committing. Especially liked hearing he was a late riser ala Jalen Adams. Just was curious on the outlook of MAL/Hamidou barring a commitment from Beatty, that's all.
 
UConnStats said:
Definitely has a tighter handle than Brown did IMO. Brown will be a better finisher, though. Beatty fits the mold as a 2 guard in a 2 PG offense, is athletic and should have a reliable jumper as an upperclassman. I'm sold too.
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This kid does a nice job of finishing in traffic also it seems. Solid body, real nice stroke and good size - whats not to like?
 
Probably the Philly connection that's influencing my opinion but he reminds me of Waiters
 
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aceboon said:
Probably the Philly connection that's influencing my opinion but he reminds me of Waiters
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Another poster I think made this comparison and I can see it also. I don't think it is just the Philly thing though it may be strengthening the comparison. Here is a Waiters Vid just for fun. They do have a similar body style/physique in a sense and they drive through traffic and contact very similarly. Maybe I'm just looking into it too much but the comparison is pretty good.
 
80shusky said:
Another poster I think made this comparison and I can see it also. I don't think it is just the Philly thing though it may be strengthening the comparison. Here is a Waiters Vid just for fun. They do have a similar body style/physique in a sense and they drive through traffic and contact very similarly. Maybe I'm just looking into it too much but the comparison is pretty good.
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Twas me! Thanks for enhancing my point.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Twas me! Thanks for enhancing my point.
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Actually you should thank @aceboon he is the one who independently saw what you saw. I just stole both of your ideas and Googled a video thinking that you might have had something there. And I think you did!
 
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mauconnfan said:
But it also seems HamiD is not DB either because one can shoot the ball. ;)
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Looking at Beatty's stroke, I wouldn't expect him to be a good 3 point shooter right away. It's not terrible looking, but it has a bit of a hitch. He's a strong and athletic kid who's game is probably best when he's attacking the paint.
 
mauconnfan said:
But it also seems HamiD is not DB either because one can shoot the ball. ;)
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As exciting a player as Hamidou is, his weak outside shooting could really limit his effectiveness if it does not improve a lot. I cannot think of a lot of players who have come through who have dramatically improved their shooting if not pretty good to start with. Kemba from soph to junior year stands out as the major exception. Others?
 
Dogbreath2U said:
As exciting a player as Hamidou is, his weak outside shooting could really limit his effectiveness if it does not improve a lot. I cannot think of a lot of players who have come through who have dramatically improved their shooting if not pretty good to start with. Kemba from soph to junior year stands out as the major exception. Others?
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Giffey?
 
UConnStats said:
Looking at Beatty's stroke, I wouldn't expect him to be a good 3 point shooter right away. It's not terrible looking, but it has a bit of a hitch. He's a strong and athletic kid who's game is probably best when he's attacking the paint.
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He's got that Purvis looking form. With a little reformation it can turn into a good stroke, the foundation is there. Me likey his game
 
Dogbreath2U said:
As exciting a player as Hamidou is, his weak outside shooting could really limit his effectiveness if it does not improve a lot. I cannot think of a lot of players who have come through who have dramatically improved their shooting if not pretty good to start with. Kemba from soph to junior year stands out as the major exception. Others?
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It's kind of hard to judge what you mean by pretty good to start with? Although you are discussing Diallo, who is likely a one and done, so the data isn't totally useful, players have seen some pretty good improvement after adjusting to Ollies system.

Daniels went from 24% on 50(JC) attempts, to 31% on 68 to 42% on 120.
Napier went from 33% on 141(JC), to 36% on 166(JC), to 40% on 171, to 41% on 215.
Giffey went from 32% on 34(JC), to 43% on 21(JC), to 29% on 34, to 48% on 120.
Boatright went from 38% on 69(JC), to 33% on 129, to 38% on 117, to 41% on 209.
Calhoun went from 32% on 134, to 24% on 79*, to 34% on 76*, to 39% on 72.
Purvis went from from 39% on 78 @ NCSt, to 36% on 150, to 39% on 182.

Hamilton is probably the only example of a major player not to improve when healthy and with multiple years under Ollie. I think a lot of it is shot selection and Ollie/staff instructing the kids on what is a good shot to take but I think they also do a good job of working on confidence and mechanics as shown by the FT shooting numbers, which I don't have time to run.

Marked (JC) next to those years played under Calhoun.

It will be interesting to see if the trend continues with Purvis and Adams this year. I could see both increasing number of attempts and percentages.
 
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