Future of the athletic department.

[Guapo]

The worst part of conference realignment is that the last 5 years have played out exactly like many of the panic mode posters feared.

A slow and steady death by strangling.

In the big picture that is the worst.

On a day to day basis, I really hate that people make every game a referendum on the future of the athletic department

 

[UConnNick]

Obviously not saying the UConn football program has anywhere close to the same potential as FSU, but just pointing out that Bowden built that program as an independent by going anywhere to play anyone without the guarantee of a return home game.

You cannot compare the 1970's and 1980's with today's CFB reality. Totally apples and oranges. Up until the school presidents took control of the NCAA from the AD's in the late 1980's, and the CFA was formed, schools could still operate as independents, like Miami, Penn State and Florida State did. The CFA and later BCS cartels effectively eliminated any possibility of major power schools not named Notre Lame from being able to effectively survive as independents, with the bowls being locked in to certain conference pecking orders. That's why Miami joined the Big East, FSU joined the ACC, and Penn State joined the B10, all in the early 1990's. They were all forced to join conferences for football. UConn went 9-3 during the 2003 season as an independent...no bowl game. It cannot be done as an independent anymore, except for the folks in South Bend.

 

[whaler11]

You guys notice anything about BYU lately?

The part where they were one of the worst teams in the country?

 

[whaler11]

The AAC in basketball versus the Big East is long decided. The Big East is running laps around the AAC in basketball.

That’s with Wichita. Before them it had become a ridiculous argument.

 

[StunningSteve]

The AAC in basketball versus the Big East is long decided. The Big East is running laps around the AAC in basketball.

That’s with Wichita. Before them it had become a ridiculous argument.

Temple looked very good against a 1 loss South Carolina team. Blew them out the whole way.

Right now the AAC is looking like a 4 bid conference WITHOUT UCONN IN THAT EQUATION.

We are FINE in the AAC.

 

[whaler11]

Temple looked very good against a 1 loss South Carolina team. Blew them out the whole way.

Right now the AAC is looking like a 4 bid conference WITHOUT UCONN IN THAT EQUATION.

We are FINE in the AAC.

Oh ok. The Big East is still running circles around the AAC.

 

[StunningSteve]

Oh ok. The Big East is still running circles around the AAC.

Running circles?

You're missing the point. We need to focus on UCONN, and how UCONN will INCREASE those likely 4 bids.

The NBE is likely to be around 5 bids most years.

If that's "circles" then call it "circles"... but the math doesn't look that steep to want to relegate most of the other good sports into the cesspool of the NBE. Their other sports are terrible without even factoring in no football, while the AAC is in that upper cluster of pretty much every good college sport.

 

[whaler11]

Running circles?

You're missing the point. We need to focus on UCONN, and how UCONN will INCREASE those likely 4 bids.

The NBE is likely to be around 5 bids most years.

If that's "circles" then call it "circles"... but the math doesn't look that steep to want to relegate most of the other good sports into the cesspool of the NBE. Their other sports are terrible without even factoring in no football, while the AAC is in that upper cluster of pretty much every good college sport.

If you think I’m pushing UConn to the Big East you might have the wrong guy.

Here on Earth the Big East is has been better, is better and will continue to be better than the American at basketball.

Trying to argue that makes one look silly.

 

[StunningSteve]

If you think I’m pushing UConn to the Big East you might have the wrong guy.

Here on Earth the Big East is has been better, is better and will continue to be better than the American at basketball.

Trying to argue that makes one look silly.

The issue you're not really addressing is the fact that Memphis and UConn haven't been pulling their weight.

As I said, under those circumstances, the AAC is performing rather well.

There is too much brand equity (i.e. untapped resources) there to act like you can state how things will continue to be.

The AAC's lowest tier (including ECU) has also started their rebuilding process. USF has recruited a very nice class in Gregory's first year. Haith is trying to steady the ship after losing a huge class not long ago. UCF lost Aubrey Dawkins and BJ Taylor. Memphis turned over virtually its entire roster. Dunleavy has already surpassed his win total from last year.

If you really look into the genesis of the conference, you'll see why a potential 4 bid year may be the foundation of better things.

All conferences go through cycles. The NBE and the AAC included.

 

[StunningSteve]

If you think I’m pushing UConn to the Big East you might have the wrong guy.

Here on Earth the Big East is has been better, is better and will continue to be better than the American at basketball.

Trying to argue that makes one look silly.

The issue you're not really addressing is the fact that Memphis and UConn haven't been pulling their weight.

As I said, under those circumstances, the AAC is performing rather well.

There is too much brand equity (i.e. untapped resources) there to act like you can state how things will continue to be. Historically, the AAC has more skins on the wall.

The AAC's lowest tier (including ECU) has also started their rebuilding process. USF has recruited a very nice class in Gregory's first year. Haith is trying to steady the ship after losing a huge class not long ago. UCF lost Aubrey Dawkins and BJ Taylor. Memphis turned over virtually its entire roster. Dunleavy has already surpassed his win total from last year.

If you really look into the genesis of the conference, you'll see why a potential 4 bid year may be the foundation of better things.

All conferences go through cycles. The NBE and the AAC included.

 

[whaler11]

The issue you're not really addressing is the fact that Memphis and UConn haven't been pulling their weight.

As I said, under those circumstances, the AAC is performing rather well.

There is too much brand equity (i.e. untapped resources) there to act like you can state how things will continue to be. Historically, the AAC has more skins on the wall.

The AAC's lowest tier (including ECU) has also started their rebuilding process. USF has recruited a very nice class in Gregory's first year. Haith is trying to steady the ship after losing a huge class not long ago. UCF lost Aubrey Dawkins and BJ Taylor. Memphis turned over virtually its entire roster. Dunleavy has already surpassed his win total from last year.

If you really look into the genesis of the conference, you'll see why a potential 4 bid year may be the foundation of better things.

All conferences go through cycles. The NBE and the AAC included.

I don’t need to address any issues.

The Big East has been better, is currently better and will continue to be better.

Your number of bids argument is silly.

1. You are just making up bids for a tournament 4 months from now

2. If 12 teams get 4 bids and 9 teams get 5 bids....