From the guy who brought you “Hassan Diarra reminds me of Taliek Brown” I have another scorching hot PG take.

[RichZ]

Can Joey C start at PG for us? Everyone is saying Diarra should start over Newton but I’m not convinced Joey C isn’t a better option. Obviously he WAS a better shooter

Fixed that for you. Joey got the bball equivalent of coal in his stocking for Christmas. We've played 7 games since Christmas, and he's scored 15 points. That's 2.14 ppg. He's made 5 of 29 field goals in that stretch, and has not made or even attempted a FT since Christmas, either.

I know it's just a coincidence that we've gone from unbeaten before Christmas to 5 losses in 7 games since then, at the same time that his shooting has gone from astoundingly good to amazingly bad. But I don't see the point in suggesting that we make him the point guard based on what he used to do.

 

[Umami Zen]

We must be watching 2 different Alleynes

The guy had a three year ACC MPG ave. of app 29 minutes/game. His UConn MPG is about 18 minutes.. Last five games about 10/game.. He has one of the lowest TO/minutes of any of our guards. Plays solid D..81% FT shooter.

If you don't need that talent on the floor to rest the starters as you head into the remainder of the BE schedule/BET/Tournament.. Don't play him.. But don't complain in the press about "losing guys" or them not being team-oriented.

He is not the answer to our problems.. But he could be part of the solution.

 

[navery12]

The guy had a three year ACC MPG ave. of app 29 minutes/game. His UConn MPG is about 18 minutes.. Last five games about 10/game.. He has one of the lowest TO/minutes of any of our guards. Plays solid D..81% FT shooter.

If you don't need that talent on the floor to rest the starters as you head into the remainder of the BE schedule/BET/Tournament.. Don't play him.. But don't complain in the press about "losing guys" or them not being team-oriented.

He is not the answer to our problems.. But he could be part of the solution.

Yeah but the point is you said he's getting benched even when he's performing. In that 5 game sample you mention he's scored 3 points. Not per game, total. He's been a total non factor and can't hit the broad side of a barn from 3 right now.

 

[August_West]

Can Joey C start at PG for us? Everyone is saying Diarra should start over Newton but I’m not convinced Joey C isn’t a better option. Obviously he is a better shooter and has shown an ability to get to the rim and either finish or find the open guy. Y’all will say defense but NO ONE is playing any sort of defense. Joey has good length and a knack for deflections. Just think it may work?

Only if Clingan is starting too.

 

[Umami Zen]

Yeah but the point is you said he's getting benched even when he's performing. In that 5 game sample you mention he's scored 3 points. Not per game, total. He's been a total non factor and can't hit the broad side of a barn from 3 right now.

If you limit the definition of "performing" to only made shots.. You are correct.. If you consider other parts of a BB players responsibilities.. I would suggest that he is not being out-performed by the other portal alternatives for PT.. Excepting Newton.. How are Joey's/Diarra's shooting numbers the last five games??

As an example.. I would think that limiting/controlling TOs might be something to consider in our recent losses.

Look.. We need the portal guys to perform if we're going to get anywhere. Less worried about the Big Three/DC-AK

 

[yungdowork]

It seems pretty apparent to me that our ballhandlers are being asked to do stuff that isn't really their bread and butter.

All of our guards waste time outside the arc because our offense is set up to prioritize getting post position for Sanogo/Clingan and finding him early. Our guards haven't been great, but we definitely make their jobs harder by running so many sets where our bigs are options A and B and option C is a kick out for a 3. Newton, Jackson, and Diarra have never been 3 point shooters and it makes sense that they've been struggling given the situations that they often get the ball in. I've said it on this board before, but running more pick and roll will make life a lot easier for all our ballhandlers, and Newton especially since he used it a lot more frequently at ECU.

 

[navery12]

If you limit the definition as performing to only made shots.. You are correct.. If you consider other parts of a BB players responsibilities.. I would suggest that he is not being out-performed by the other portal alternatives for PT.. Excepting Newton.. How are Joey's/Diarra's shooting numbers the last five games??

As an example.. I would think that limiting/controlling TOs might be something to consider in our recent losses.

Look.. We need the portal guys to perform if we're going to get anywhere. Less worried about the Big Three/DC-AK

Then you would be wrong. He's not competing for minutes with most of the other portal guys so that comparison isn't relevant. Newton and Diarra are getting almost all their minutes at PG outside of a few minutes they've played together.

Alleyene is shooting 7% the last 5 games, Diarra is shooting 20% and Calcaterra 16%. Even turnovers there's not a huge difference, Alleyene has 1 in 53 minutes and Calcaterra 2 in 59 minutes

Which isn't to say he needs to not play, but to say he's been benched when playing well is just not rooted in reality. Hopefully he turns it around because we can use another guy on the wing to start making 3's

 

[Umami Zen]

Then you would be wrong. He's not competing for minutes with most of the other portal guys so that comparison isn't relevant. Newton and Diarra are getting almost all their minutes at PG outside of a few minutes they've played together.

Alleyene is shooting 7% the last 5 games, Diarra is shooting 20% and Calcaterra 16%. Even turnovers there's not a huge difference, Alleyene has 1 in 53 minutes and Calcaterra 2 in 59 minutes

Which isn't to say he needs to not play, but to say he's been benched when playing well is just not rooted in reality. Hopefully he turns it around because we can use another guy on the wing to start making 3's

If he's not competing for minutes with portal guys..Who is he competing with? Jackson/Hawkins/Karaban/Sanogo/Clingan?? Don't think so.

Guys have to know/play their roles.. The coach thinks the other guys are playing their roles better.. End of story.. All that matters. But Yarders throwing Alleyne under the bus-- when compared to the other portal guys recent productivity-- is a little unfair .

I hope the coaching staff (and them) figure it out starting with Butler.. We need them.

 

[navery12]

If he's not competing for minutes with portal guys..Who is he competing with? Jackson/Hawkins/Karaban/Sanogo/Clingan?? Don't think so.

Guys have to know/play their roles.. The coach thinks the other guys are playing their roles better.. End of story.. All that matters. But Yarders throwing Alleyne under the bus-- when compared to the other portal guys recent productivity-- is a little unfair .

I hope the coaching staff (and them) figure it out starting with Butler.. We need them.

Yes, he's competing for minutes on the wing with Jackson, Karaban, Hawkins more than guard minutes. The most common lineups have all been with 2 other guards on the court

 

[Orc]

I thought Ill never see a worst shooter the likes of Taliek brown in uconn uniform again. We have 2 taliek brown lite on the team this year. Yikes

 

[Umami Zen]

Yes, he's competing for minutes on the wing with Jackson, Karaban, Hawkins more than guard minutes. The most common lineups have all been with 2 other guards on the court

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You got me.. Can't argue with Big Data/Analytics.. You win

 

[mauconnfan]

Appears that Dan Hurley has a quick hook on Alleyne.. Sometimes he doesn't even break a sweat.. BTW.. There are times when he's contributing and it still happens (the hook)

No doubt he is a solid defender no doubt although it seems he's not as focused there as of late. The quick rope adds frustration on both ends for a player.

 

[Conndog]

I thought Ill never see a worst shooter the likes of Taliek brown in uconn uniform again. We have 2 taliek brown lite on the team this year. Yikes

But Taliek was great- repeat great- with his defense, his skill as a point guard directing the team, getting inside and past the zone or outer defenders and dishing off, wonderful positive energy, making layups, everything else.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

Need to plant inception on Newton every night and show him highlights of guards driving the ball…he can do it, but only chooses to do it 2-3 times a game. It’s a mystery as to why he doesn’t do it more

discussed long ago.

danny has managed to suck the soul out of tris' game.
he brought him here to be dynamic, then forbid him to be.

nutz.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Fixed that for you. Joey got the bball equivalent of coal in his stocking for Christmas. We've played 7 games since Christmas, and he's scored 15 points. That's 2.14 ppg. He's made 5 of 29 field goals in that stretch, and has not made or even attempted a FT since Christmas, either.

I know it's just a coincidence that we've gone from unbeaten before Christmas to 5 losses in 7 games since then, at the same time that his shooting has gone from astoundingly good to amazingly bad. But I don't see the point in suggesting that we make him the point guard based on what he used to do.

That’s because you have a model of PG that this team really doesn’t need.
He needs to be smart , a leader , cool under pressure, and be able to the deliver the ball to players in the most advantageous position . It also helps if they have to respect his shot
I believe Newton or Jackson could do it but Newtown doesn’t seem to want to lead and Jackson doesn’t have confidence in his gifts .

 

[dennismenace]

Yeah but the point is you said he's getting benched even when he's performing. In that 5 game sample you mention he's scored 3 points. Not per game, total. He's been a total non factor and can't hit the broad side of a barn from 3 right now.

His performance of late seems to me a cumulative effect over the course of the season. To me, all of the bench and the starters time should be analyzed. At least he is and has been a steady defender which is more than you can say for the other guards. I actually believe that with solid defense (get more turnovers and runouts) and better passing movement of the ball (Sanogo) we could get better
shots. Our offense and defense look more and more like they just happened instead of planned and executed. Agree with others about sitting people who are consistently screwing up. If you continue to do the things you've always done you'll continue to get what you've got. There is no excuse for not defending and there is no excuse for failing to pass (Sanogo) when you don't have the shot.

 

[alphasigko]

discussed long ago.

danny has managed to suck the soul out of tris' game.
he brought him here to be dynamic, then forbid him to be.

nutz.

Interesting take

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Edit: Better picks by the 4/5s on the floor with Newton would do wonders for his ability to get to the hole more consistently.

This.

Better picks by the 4/5s on the floor would also help free up Hawkins et al for threes.

 

[Improviser]

With all the complexity and diversity of opinion here, and the baffling underperformance or non-performance of many of the guards, as a last resort , might it not be helpful to involve a sports psychologist to work with the team to figure out the answers?

The team had hired one in past seasons during the pre-season.

Maybe the SP could shed light on the problem and offer possible solutions?

Or if not, a volunteer from the BY?

 

[storrsroars]

With all the complexity and diversity of opinion here, and the baffling underperformance or non-performance of many of the guards, as a last resort , might it not be helpful to involve a sports psychologist to work with the team to figure out the answers?

The team had hired one in past seasons during the pre-season.

Maybe the SP could shed light on the problem and offer possible solutions?

Or if not, a volunteer from the BY?

I wonder if this guy is still around.

 

[Improviser]

Well none of our players had the ball hit them in the groin and knock them to the ground, or have 3 collided with each other for a rebound lost to the other team, but maybe they are imagining themselves in a boat at sea gently rocking and are putting themselves to sleep.