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From the guy who brought you “Hassan Diarra reminds me of Taliek Brown” I have another scorching hot PG take.

Punkbo said:
I’ll go on record as saying that I’m not part of the “everyone” mentioned above. I believe that despite his flaws, Newton gives us the best chance to win of the options available. He needs to step up and play to his potential. We’ve actually been pretty good starting games, it’s how we finish which has been the problem.
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The hope that he will "step up and play to potential" is not the same as his actually playing to potential and delivering. Newton still could still play decent minutes as a sub and get an opportunity to rediscover himself.

Give Joey the chance and see what happens. Even when his shot is off, he hustles and passes well and gets some rebounds. He seems like the energizer bunny. He is not a slowmo player.
 
It doesn't matter who starts at PG because we don't have a competent PG on this roster. Start Clingan at PG, it won't matter.
 
UofCT said:
Joey also has decent chemistry with Clingan and usually finds him when he drives.
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These two off the bench were lethal early. Should always be on the court together.
 
Punkbo said:
I’ll go on record as saying that I’m not part of the “everyone” mentioned above. I believe that despite his flaws, Newton gives us the best chance to win of the options available. He needs to step up and play to his potential. We’ve actually been pretty good starting games, it’s how we finish which has been the problem.
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I agree. Our best chance at success is to get Newton going.
 
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With the infatuation with changing the starting 5 you would think UConn would have been trailing 18 out of 20 games at the 10 min mark in the first half not leading.

Certainly some mins need to be redistributed but the starting lineup is not going to change. The line up that comes out at halftime well that is a completely different story....
 
I want to see the same starters and rotations as they had for the first 10 games.
The ball moved, shots were appropriately taken and they ran the pants off opponents. The team was unstoppable.
Why did Danny try to make it better? If it isn’t broken, don’t mess with it.
 
jake14mw said:
I have had the same thought. The other options are just not working. I would start JC and see what happens. I think the key though is to get Newton right. He's our only long term chance, but the short term is painful.
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He is not right between his ears.... HE cannot figure out why he averaged over 16 pts/game at ECU and why he cannot do the same here...and IMO it is affecting his overall play... So much so that he is not playing a lick of defense...
 
Diarra seems to play out of control more frequently than anyone else on the roster. Definitely not ideal for a point guard.
 
Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
Can Joey C start at PG for us? Everyone is saying Diarra should start over Newton but I’m not convinced Joey C isn’t a better option. Obviously he is a better shooter and has shown an ability to get to the rim and either finish or find the open guy. Y’all will say defense but NO ONE is playing any sort of defense. Joey has good length and a knack for deflections. Just think it may work?
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Why not give it a go.
This team lacks two things among others preventing success bothsomewhat related
Basketball IQ and a leader on the floor.
So Joey at the PH might help in both areas.
You also can’t sag on him opening up lanes . That’s got to help the bigs.
Plus he is is the most mature guy we have and I believe the others would respond to him
Move Jackson back on D into a rim protector role .
Diarra reminds me of Gilbert the good and the bad
But that team got better when we but in a plain vanilla freshman named Gaffney.
 
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FWIW Joey C definitely shows more dog than newton and also is a better offensive player than Diarra, you might be on to something
 
uconntoatl said:
Need to plant inception on Newton every night and show him highlights of guards driving the ball…he can do it, but only chooses to do it 2-3 times a game. It’s a mystery as to why he doesn’t do it more
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My take is it’s simply that he’s too slow. On defense he can’t stay in front of his man, and on offense he can’t drive consistently because he’s just not quick enough to get by most big east guards.
 
I've said it a few times. Newton has to be better he's the only one who can play both ends of the court in a way to be of impact for this team at the PG position. Diarra can do very little at all on the offensive end unless it's transition and he is a dreadful shooter. Joey C is a 2G period. He does have ability on that end and creativity passing and getting to the lane but his defense is the same as Diarras offense, it's offensive.

Newton had a nice 2nd half the other night, overall in comparison to most others wearing the Husky colors he was good. There's many here and I see it in the chatroom who won't give him credit again unless he gets another triple double though, hes in the doghouse. He's a better defender than most give him credit for no duobt. Do some guards blow by him, hell yeah just like Jordan Hawkins guy did at will all night against both the Johnnies and Hall. But hes a scapegoat now so it will take a lot for him to get i the good graces. For me he's been easily the best of what turned out to be a weak set of transfers.
 
Thirty Three said:
My take is it’s simply that he’s too slow. On defense he can’t stay in front of his man, and on offense he can’t drive consistently because he’s just not quick enough to get by most big east guards.
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Agree but Diarras handle doesn't allow his quickness to take over. He was starting the offense from between halfcourt and the hash mark, he couldn't get by Dawes either. Of course let's be honest Dawes and #21 were getting away with assault half the time as well hand checking, hip defending and somehow that's allowed?
 
Maybe they should set screens for Newton bringing up the ball, though I would be concerned about moving picks, since we cannot seem to hold position. Remember how Alterique used to get creamed by the back court screens. It’s the offensive version of the high hedge, so it should be easy to put in.
 
oshkosh said:
He has shown good court vision through some of his passing. You never see him bringing the ball up though. Any event I think he needs more minutes as the first guard off bench. I think with 20 minutes a game you’ll get those 2-3 difference-making threes and someone who can make a free throw.
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Agreed. He is an open court player but does not have the handle to deal with good guard pressure. Open court, give and go, passing and catch and shoot (mainly) he is very accomplished.
 
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Stinger92860 said:
Maybe they should set screens for Newton bringing up the ball, though I would be concerned about moving picks, since we cannot seem to hold position. Remember how Alterique used to get creamed by the back court screens. It’s the offensive version of the high hedge, so it should be easy to put in.
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Cannot or will not? Where is the gut check?
 
With 11 games to go in the regular season.. Not sure we have a better solution at PG/CG than Newton.. I'm on board with trying to grab more PT for Joey but I think his handle as a primary PG would be more problematic vs. BE guards/athletic guards.. But his ability to facilitate as a CG/SG and his ability to make open threes is tremendously valuable.. Would call his D more disruptive than as a shut-down defender.

IMO.. The best solution is a shared PG role between Andre/Tristen.. Usually on the floor at the same time. If Newton can see the ball go in the hole more often he tends to play at the other end of floor with more enthusiasm. His body language speaks volumes as to whether he's into the game or not. BTW.. That's easy for opponents to see as well.

No question that Tristen is money at the FT line at crunch time.

Edit: Better picks by the 4/5s on the floor with Newton would do wonders for his ability to get to the hole more consistently.
 
alphasigko said:
He is not right between his ears.... HE cannot figure out why he averaged over 16 pts/game at ECU and why he cannot do the same here...and IMO it is affecting his overall play... So much so that he is not playing a lick of defense...
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The on ball defense in the BE is so much tougher than the American. But Newton might be our most important piece if this team wants to win more games. Diarra and Calcaterra can give us reserve minutes but are not BE quality starters. Alleyne should only see the floor if others are in foul trouble.
 
alphasigko said:
He is not right between his ears.... HE cannot figure out why he averaged over 16 pts/game at ECU and why he cannot do the same here...and IMO it is affecting his overall play... So much so that he is not playing a lick of defense...
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Agree on most but Newtons defense is as good as most everyone elses. Diarra got ripped up when he came in, blown by then had to foul because he got backed down and no one says "thats crappy defense" because he's supposedly so good. AJ and Hawk were arguably the worst defenders the other night and Hawk was just as bad versus the Johnnies but he got 31 so he got a pass - not from me. Newton plays good defense, solid actually when he can stay in step with his guy problem is some are really quick. It's not easy guarding the scat guards and that's on Hurley and the staff. If he's going to get beat a lot then slough off, give them space don't go out to the hash and half court and get in their grill there, give'em space.
 
imno1 said:
The on ball defense in the BE is so much tougher than the American. But Newton might be our most important piece if this team wants to win more games. Diarra and Calcaterra can give us reserve minutes but are not BE quality starters. Alleyne should only see the floor if others are in foul trouble.
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I think they lost Alleyne, this is not the same player that came in from VTech. Not saying it's anyones fault might just be his, but the kid they got as a transfer was a much better player than what we have on the floor. That's scary!
 
mauconnfan said:
Agree on most but Newtons defense is as good as most everyone elses. Diarra got ripped up when he came in, blown by then had to foul because he got backed down and no one says "thats crappy defense" because he's supposedly so good. AJ and Hawk were arguably the worst defenders the other night and Hawk was just as bad versus the Johnnies but he got 31 so he got a pass - not from me. Newton plays good defense, solid actually when he can stay in step with his guy problem is some are really quick. It's not easy guarding the scat guards and that's on Hurley and the staff. If he's going to get beat a lot then slough off, give them space don't go out to the hash and half court and get in their grill there, give'em space.
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Why not play some zone with Clingan on the floor to cut down on these easy drives to the hoop after beating their defender. Against SH Clingan was required to move to the top of the key too much which took him out of defensive and rebounding position. Coaches should have seen this but didn't.
 
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freshler40 said:
Why not play some zone with Clingan on the floor to cut down on these easy drives to the hoop after beating their defender. Against SH Clingan was required to move to the top of the key too much which took him out of defensive and rebounding position. Coaches should have seen this but didn't.
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You will ask about this until you’re blue in the face freshler, I asked about it early on. Then they play some zone and they play the one which has the most lanes in it when not properly rotated.
 
mauconnfan said:
I think they lost Alleyne, this is not the same player that came in from VTech. Not saying it's anyones fault might just be his, but the kid they got as a transfer was a much better player than what we have on the floor. That's scary!
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Appears that Dan Hurley has a quick hook on Alleyne.. Sometimes he doesn't even break a sweat.. BTW.. There are times when he's contributing and it still happens (the hook)
 
Umami Zen said:
Appears that Dan Hurley has a quick hook on Alleyne.. Sometimes he doesn't even break a sweat.. BTW.. There are times when he's contributing and it still happens (the hook)
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Alleyne hasn't made a 3 in almost a month. He was supposed to be one of our "sharp shooters" coming in but he hasn't given us much so I don't blame Dan Hurley for giving him a quick hook
 
Umami Zen said:
Appears that Dan Hurley has a quick hook on Alleyne.. Sometimes he doesn't even break a sweat.. BTW.. There are times when he's contributing and it still happens (the hook)
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We must be watching 2 different Alleynes
 
NotADime89 said:
Alleyne hasn't made a 3 in almost a month. He was supposed to be one of our "sharp shooters" coming in but he hasn't given us much so I don't blame Dan Hurley for giving him a quick hook
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Actually it was less than 3 weeks ago. It’s also worth noting that he’s only played 53 minutes in that time.
 
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