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noeynox said:
I think @ZooCougar, nailed it earlier in the thread when called Warde being in the US VIRGIN, bad optics after Jurich came out and said he went door to door to beg for UL'S inclusion. A small part of me will always resent that, but Warde hadn't been here long enough to know his way around campus at that point. Warde overall has done a great job here getting facilities built or started that will make us the most attractive G5 school in the event of more expansion in the P5.

The next AD hired needs to understand that getting to in a P5 league ASAP, is his biggest overall responsibility. I'm sure this will be conveyed during the interview process.
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That's why I want Pernetti or someone like him. We can't afford some up and comer from Sienna or Buffalo.
 
ZooCougar said:
That's why I want Pernetti or someone like him. We can't afford some up and comer from Sienna or Buffalo.
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Unless the up and comer has the world's best name recognition and is viewed as the second coming. Not sure such a person exists. Connections and perception matter as much as competent management at this point.
 
noeynox said:
I think @ZooCougar, nailed it earlier in the thread when called Warde being in the US VIRGIN, bad optics after Jurich came out and said he went door to door to beg for UL'S inclusion. A small part of me will always resent that, but Warde hadn't been here long enough to know his way around campus at that point. Warde overall has done a great job here getting facilities built or started that will make us the most attractive G5 school in the event of more expansion in the P5.

The next AD hired needs to understand that getting to in a P5 league ASAP, is his biggest overall responsibility. I'm sure this will be conveyed during the interview process.
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Would you take a job that your main responsibility is something that you have virtually no control over?
 
CL82 said:
Would you take a job that your main responsibility is something that you have virtually no control over?
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You believe that, I dont. Jurich sold his president on how crucial that ACC invite was, not the other way around. Athletic directors and their connections matter. Pernetti gets the credit for RU, but most of the heavy lifting there was done by his predecessor Bob Mulcahy. Pernetti just had to pick up the phone when the call came in.
 
noeynox said:
You believe that, I dont. Jurich sold his president on how crucial that ACC invite was, not the other way around. Athletic directors and their connections matter. Pernetti gets the credit for RU, but most of the heavy lifting there was done by his predecessor Bob Mulcahy. Pernetti just had to pick up the phone when the call came in.
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So which candidate has an invite in his back pocket, because I'm all in on hiring the guy, if you can find him.
 
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I want an ambitious AD to replace Warde, someone like Hollis at MSU, where scheduling big time games is not an issue. UConn needs a national schedule and they should not turn down any opportunity to play a big time opponent. Look at how much MSU has taken off since Hollis has gone into overdrive.
 
FDNY99 said:
I don't think Frazier is a "up and comer"..Jim Delaney told RU to hire him as Pernetti's replacement. If it comes down to a final 2 of Frazier and Pernetti to me UConn wins.
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I think Frazier is a guy that could help seal the deal for us. B1G connections, Delany likes him, has an impeccable resume, focus on football and football scheduling, can raise funds, good academic standings from his teams, and from the northeast so he understands the climate and culture. I would say that I'd offer him the job over Pernetti.
 
CL82 said:
So which candidate has an invite in his back pocket, because I'm all in on hiring the guy, if you can find him.
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I don't think no one has an invite in their pocket, I just don't believe an AD is helpless or worthless toward that aim.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Unless the up and comer has the world's best name recognition and is viewed as the second coming. Not sure such a person exists. Connections and perception matter as much as competent management at this point.
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If you have the world's best name recognition then you are no longer an up and comer. You've arrived.
 
If we really have a shot at the B12, my #1 choice is Luck, if they can get him. It would be the best way to change the perception that UConn football is small-time, and it would allay fears that the B12 football schools have about UConn not being a "cultural fit." Luck is a guy who understands southern football culture, and he guided WVU from the Big East into the B12 already, so he has the road map.

If the B1G is still a realistic goal, my #1 pick is Frazier, for the reasons already cited.
 
Just saw this but nothing reported elsewhere yet. Not shocked. Congrats to him!

 
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noeynox said:
You believe that, I dont. Jurich sold his president on how crucial that ACC invite was, not the other way around. Athletic directors and their connections matter. Pernetti gets the credit for RU, but most of the heavy lifting there was done by his predecessor Bob Mulcahy. Pernetti just had to pick up the phone when the call came in.
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Do you really think a University President needed to be sold on the ACC versus AAC? You can definitiely argue how crucial Jurich was to the process, but this point makes no sense.

Sad to see Ward go. I think he did a great job.
 
Gringo said:
Do you really think a University President needed to be sold on the ACC versus AAC? You can definitiely argue how crucial Jurich was to the process, but this point makes no sense.

Sad to see Ward go. I think he did a great job.
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I think you're overestimating how much many school presidents knew about the differences about P5 and G5 at the time.

Sue Herbst herself was quoted as saying something along the lines of stopping to think whether "loading up student athletes and putting them on a bus to Iowa is in their best interest" when there was talk of a merger between the Big East and Big Twelve remnants when it looked like Texas and Oklahoma were going PAC 12.

You think Sue Herbst makes that statement today? Overall I don't think the overwhelming majority of the school presidents understand much about the busines of college athletics. If many had their way they'd axe football programs like the guy down at UAB.
 
noeynox said:
I think you're overestimating how much many school presidents knew about the differences about P5 and G5 at the time.

Sue Herbst herself was quoted as saying something along the lines of stopping to think whether "loading up student athletes and putting them on a bus to Iowa is in their best interest" when there was talk of a merger between the Big East and Big Twelve remnants when it looked like Texas and Oklahoma were going PAC 12.

You think Sue Herbst makes that statement today? Overall I don't think the overwhelming majority of the school presidents understand much about the busines of college athletics. If many had their way they'd axe football programs like the guy down at UAB.
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If they are not pulling in an 8 digit media contract, I expect most presidents will axe their football programs.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
If they are not pulling in an 8 digit media contract, I expect most presidents will axe their football programs.
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I don't. They still sell tickets, and use games as fundraisers to entertain donors. There are still upgrading from FCS to FBS today, they know they aren't getting 8 digit media contracts.
 
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noeynox said:
Sue Herbst herself was quoted as saying something along the lines of stopping to think whether "loading up student athletes and putting them on a bus to Iowa is in their best interest" when there was talk of a merger between the Big East and Big Twelve remnants when it looked like Texas and Oklahoma were going PAC 12.
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In the Big Ten you can afford to fly :)

But seriously... When Mizzou was thinking about leaving the Big 12 their board was tracking flights in great detail. They thought they were on to something big, only for someone to match up their Olympic sports events with the flight of the small jet.

Turns out, the Big 12 chartered the jet to fly a couple teams from different schools back and forth over the course of the day. In other words, most of there athletes were flying, and thus distance was/is not as big of a deal.

More important is the number of time zones crossed when flying West to East. Those late nights can get much later based on the start time of the event.
 
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noeynox said:
I think you're overestimating how much many school presidents knew about the differences about P5 and G5 at the time.

Sue Herbst herself was quoted as saying something along the lines of stopping to think whether "loading up student athletes and putting them on a bus to Iowa is in their best interest" when there was talk of a merger between the Big East and Big Twelve remnants when it looked like Texas and Oklahoma were going PAC 12.

You think Sue Herbst makes that statement today? Overall I don't think the overwhelming majority of the school presidents understand much about the busines of college athletics. If many had their way they'd axe football programs like the guy down at UAB.
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Agree to disagree. When it was between Louisville and UConn everyone knew how important getting into the ACC was. Herbst was quoted as saying the day we found it was Louisville to the ACC that it was a "tough moment" in a "difficult day." She knew, just like everyone else, how much money was on the line and the importance to the school as did the Louisville President.
 
noeynox said:
I don't. They still sell tickets, and use games as fundraisers to entertain donors. There are still upgrading from FCS to FBS today, they know they aren't getting 8 digit media contracts.
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Fair point. If you want to be a Sun Belt-type program, recruit locally, hire bargain basement coaching staffs, and sell your schedule to SEC and Big 10 schools, you may be able to minimize losses on being an FBS program to the point where it is viable.
 
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Facts can easily come across inaccurate in print. I don't know but I doubt he would have chosen Ollie had not Calhoun and the entire population of CT wanted Ollie.

"Manuel immediately had to decide on a successor and chose inexperienced former Connecticut star Kevin Ollie. He led UConn to the national title in just his second year."

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/c...e-manuel-michigan-athletic-director/79307060/
 
CTGoonie said:
Doing some twitter stalking at lunch and saw Sean T. Frazier "liked" the tweet from Blauds about Warde leaving. Frazier is the AD at NIU and has been rumored to be a candidate to replace Warde.
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fify :D
 
Gringo said:
Agree to disagree. When it was between Louisville and UConn everyone knew how important getting into the ACC was. Herbst was quoted as saying the day we found it was Louisville to the ACC that it was a "tough moment" in a "difficult day." She knew, just like everyone else, how much money was on the line and the importance to the school as did the Louisville President.
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Again, that was after everyone knew the Big East had lost "BCS" status. If you ask Herbs today what she thinks about shuttling student athletes on a bus to Ames Iowa for games against Iowa State, she'd probably tell you she is driving the bus.

At the time she made her comment all of us on the boneyard thought it was cringe worthy since it was said in the context of staying in a more regional, local conference. Instead were shuttling off student athletes to Tulsa and Dallas and not to Ames, that alone tells me she didn't see how effed UConn was going to end up.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Looks to be just about official now...

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/14658389/warde-manuel-take-ad-role-michigan-wolverines
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Just trying to read the tea leaves on opinions:

If we choose someone with B!G ties it means: i) we've been told we're the next program in to the B1G!; ii) we've been told we have no shot at the Big 12 so we're just hoping to improve our chances to get into the B1G; iii) we're doomed! iv) it was just the best available person; or v) nobody but the B!G and Susan knows.

If we choose someone with ACC ties it means: See above and replace B1G with ACC.

If we choose someone with Big 12 ties it means: i) we're putting all of our eggs in that basket; ii) we're trying to make the B1G and ACC think we're going to the Big 12 so they'll jump on us; iii) we're doomed! iv) it was just the best available person; or v) nobody but the Big 12 and Susan knows.

If we hire someone with no P5 ties (not including Jeff Hathaway) it means: i) we're doomed! ii) it was just the best available person; or iii) nobody but Susan knows.

If we hire Jeff Hathaway: i) we're doomed!

I'm going with the last option for each since anything else makes my head spin.
 
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