Fork Union RB Joe Williams commits to...

[Dann]

commited in june? and were just hearing about it now? must be some grades or sat issues that are now good forthe held back media/official news?

 

[NutmegState]

BLit on twitter told me no other offers but he is coming out with a story soon. kid is a ghost town on google cept for a couple small things that were posted in this thread already. FUMA puts out like Milford if not better, i wonder if he got stuck behind a big time rb there and thats why we aren't seeing alot. imagine being stuck behind dobbs at milford for example?

i'm trying to get some vids right now, he is #28. he might have played some db as well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RZtbz_3DPw
pic of him at 1:27 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMIIAEp1jg4&feature=related
1:40 mark, #28 with a pic here but the mic man says a different players name. hmmm

Looks to me like FUMA has a 28 on O and on D. That 28 doesn't look like the same kid.

 

[gioff23]

Here is a blurb from Scout -

As a senior, Williams attended Emmaus (Pa.)he totaled 130 carries for 1,283 yards and 18 touchdowns. Ran a 10.5/10.4 100-meters.

As a Post-Grad, Williams had 35 carries for 480 yards and six touchdowns.

 

[NutmegState]

Here is a blurb from Scout -

As a senior, Williams attended Emmaus (Pa.)he totaled 130 carries for 1,283 yards and 18 touchdowns. Ran a 10.5/10.4 100-meters.

As a Post-Grad, Williams had 35 carries for 480 yards and six touchdowns.

9.9 YPC in high school and 13.7 YPC at FUMA, huh?
Can't argue with the production. Hopefully it translates, we need someone to help immediately. I like the kid's size.

 

[businesslawyer]

9.9 YPC in high school and 13.7 YPC at FUMA, huh?
Can't argue with the production. Hopefully it translates, we need someone to help immediately. I like the kid's size.

If your school has a kid who averages 13 yards per carry, and only carries it 35 times over the course of a season, may I suggest you need a better coach.

 

[huskymedic]

BobLichtenfels Bob Lichtenfels

PG film on new #UCONN RB Joe Williams from Fork Union Military Academy http://www.hudl.com/athlete/802909


BobLichtenfels Bob Lichtenfels

#UCONN RB recruit Joe Williams now checks in at 6-0/205/4.5 has actually been committed to UConn since June..Story coming...

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

If your school has a kid who averages 13 yards per carry, and only carries it 35 times over the course of a season, may I suggest you need a better coach.

Stats were skewed by a couple of long runs.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

6'0" 205 lbs, runs a 4.5 forty and averaged almost 14 ypc at FUMA and doesn't have any other offers?

 

[Carl Spackler]

Here is a blurb from Scout -

As a senior, Williams attended Emmaus (Pa.)he totaled 130 carries for 1,283 yards and 18 touchdowns. Ran a 10.5/10.4 100-meters.

As a Post-Grad, Williams had 35 carries for 480 yards and six touchdowns.

See this is why you can't really put too much weight on these recruiting websites. 10.45 speed in the 100m? Maybe. NOT.

You'd find him a lot easier in the USA track and field olympic qualifiers if that were true, rather than a football recruiting website.

For reference sake, a 10.45 in the 100m he would have placed either 2nd or 3rd in the big east finals in May 2011, against much more physically mature runners.

(Kashif Moore ran a 10.79 and placed 15th)

This young man is fast though. Very fast for his size and weight.

The kid was clocked in a PA regional track meet as a 12th grader, officially timed, in the 100m in April 2011, a month before kashif ran that 10.79 and came in at 11.05 seconds.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

He passed the eye test to me in his highlight video.

 

[coachRD]

He has run a 10.4 100 meters. That is flat out flying.

This is a rough conversion, 100-meter time converted to 40-yard dash time;

10.2 --- 4.34
10.3 --- 4.38
10.4 --- 4.43
10.5 --- 4.49
10.6 --- 4.54
10.7 --- 4.58
10.8 --- 4.63
10.9 --- 4.75
11.0 --- 4.85

For all the board regulars, this topic gets brought up every year around this time-the meaning of Track & Field times, the distinction between "fast" and "quick", etc....Without rehashing every little nuance that can come up I do want to point out something for any newcomers to the board that might not know specifics about the reporting of Track times-if a Track & Field time is listed only to the "tenths" spot (like a 10.4 in the 100meter dash), that means it was timed by hand. If a Track & field time is listed to the "hundredths" spot (say, a 10.47 in the 100m), then it "should" have been done electronically and can be counted on for greater accuracy. Sometimes coaches will report a hand time to the hundredths and that is not allowable, but obviously no one on these boards knows if that happens when a time is reported to the hundredths. Over the years I have seen coaches who simply suck at hand timing and get wacky results despite honest efforts to do it right, and I have seen coaches that frankly, I question their ethics since I see them constantly submit hand times for kids that FAR EXCEED what the kids end up doing at States with electronic timing.

Not commenting at all about this kid's ACTUAL speed since I have NO IDEA, but for the newbies, a 100m time listed to the tenths place needs to be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. Some of my kids run 11.1 hand times and consistently beat other kids who supposedly run 10.6 hand times.

As for this specific young man-welcome aboard! The staff must have been impressed if he committed all the way back in June.

 

[gioff23]

See this is why you can't really put too much weight on these recruiting websites. 10.45 speed in the 100m? Maybe. NOT.

You'd find him a lot easier in the USA track and field olympic qualifiers if that were true, rather than a football recruiting website.

For reference sake, a 10.45 in the 100m he would have placed either 2nd or 3rd in the big east finals in May 2011, against much more physically mature runners.

(Kashif Moore ran a 10.79 and placed 15th)

This young man is fast though. Very fast for his size and weight.

The kid was clocked in a PA regional track meet as a 12th grader, officially timed, in the 100m in April 2011, a month before kashif ran that 10.79 and came in at 11.05 seconds.

Wait a minute ... are you suggesting that not everything written on a recruiting site is not entirely accurate? Blasphemy! Every 5 star is a true 5 star, every 2 star should either start hitting the books or reduce his dreams to playing FCS or BigEast. What next, you will tell me that every HS kid can not run a 4.5 fourty? Wait, let me guess the TE who de-committed in favor of a late OU offer will get bumped to 4 stars? C'mon!

 

[CAPS]

Pack on 20lbs of muscle and you got a back with some ass,maybe a shoemate with better Hands.

 

[sportsart]

6'0" 205 lbs, runs a 4.5 forty and averaged almost 14 ypc at FUMA and doesn't have any other offers?

Maybe because he committed in June when people came calling he said "thanks but no thanks"

 

[Dann]

kind of like dobbs^

 

[sdhusky]

Stats were skewed by a couple of long runs.

Yeah, if he got tackled after a 5 yards instead of going for 70 yards, he would have only gotten 5 yards.

(and BL, Even if RE was still coach)

 

[uconnfan68]

Well, according to at least person on this board, those 70 yard runs will skew his numbers and make him look better than he actually is. So buyer beware.

If you understood math or statistics you'd agree with me... but I'm happy he's coming anyway. At least he can outrun the defensive ends we have.

 

[Sean]

If you understood math or statistics you'd agree with me... but I'm happy he's coming anyway. At least he can outrun the defensive ends we have.

I'm a math major and work in probability/insurance, and I think your point is absurd.

But keep saying it, and maybe someone will start to believe you know something!

 

[businesslawyer]

If you understood math or statistics you'd agree with me... but I'm happy he's coming anyway. At least he can outrun the defensive ends we have.

Pay attention to Businesslawyer's first rule of holes. When in one, stop digging.

 

[Chin Diesel]

If you understood math or statistics you'd agree with me... but I'm happy he's coming anyway. At least he can outrun the defensive ends we have.

If you could succinctly make the point that you'd prefer a Emmitt Smith style RB that always gets 3-5 yards over a Barry Sanders type RB who may lose some yards and then break off a couple of 50 yarders you'd sound reasonable.

Unfortunately you haven't done that.

 

[uconnbaseball]

Pay attention to Businesslawyer's first rule of holes. When in one, stop digging.

Dig at the sides to relocate dirt to the bottom and thereby decrease the depth of the hole.

 

[Jax Husky]

He has run a 10.4 100 meters. That is flat out flying.

This is a rough conversion, 100-meter time converted to 40-yard dash time;

10.2 --- 4.34
10.3 --- 4.38
10.4 --- 4.43
10.5 --- 4.49
10.6 --- 4.54
10.7 --- 4.58
10.8 --- 4.63
10.9 --- 4.75
11.0 --- 4.85

Guys that win the NCAA and compete for the Olympics run about a 10 flat. 10.4 is flying.

 

[Carl Spackler]

For all the board regulars, this topic gets brought up every year around this time-the meaning of Track & Field times, the distinction between "fast" and "quick", etc....Without rehashing every little nuance that can come up I do want to point out something for any newcomers to the board that might not know specifics about the reporting of Track times-if a Track & Field time is listed only to the "tenths" spot (like a 10.4 in the 100meter dash), that means it was timed by hand. If a Track & field time is listed to the "hundredths" spot (say, a 10.47 in the 100m), then it "should" have been done electronically and can be counted on for greater accuracy. Sometimes coaches will report a hand time to the hundredths and that is not allowable, but obviously no one on these boards knows if that happens when a time is reported to the hundredths. Over the years I have seen coaches who simply suck at hand timing and get wacky results despite honest efforts to do it right, and I have seen coaches that frankly, I question their ethics since I see them constantly submit hand times for kids that FAR EXCEED what the kids end up doing at States with electronic timing.

Not commenting at all about this kid's ACTUAL speed since I have NO IDEA, but for the newbies, a 100m time listed to the tenths place needs to be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. Some of my kids run 11.1 hand times and consistently beat other kids who supposedly run 10.6 hand times.

As for this specific young man-welcome aboard! The staff must have been impressed if he committed all the way back in June.

Yup on all of that, especially the welcome aboard part, and that goes to every single one of the 2012 recruiting class and I hope more to join in.

As for the numbers I"ve put up. Heres' the eastern PA high school regional results from april 2011.
http://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/MeetResults.aspx?Meet=132391#6841

and the big east results from May 2011.
http://bigeast.org/portals/5/fls/19400/stats/otrack/2011/menfinalresults.htm


One of my biggest, little pet peeves on Edsall was the way he shunned track and field. Where the hell else are you going to find the fastest runners?

 

[DieHardHusky]

http://temple.scout.com/a.z?s=186&p=8&c=1&nid=5996250
This shows 6' 205!

 

[TouchdownHusky]

Recruiting services? Pennsylvannia kid? Fork Union? 10.45 handheld v electronic? Under-the-radar? Something wrong? Doesn't mean much. Better question is who did UConn have to beat out for this kids services. Indiana U in PA is not impressive. Other schools mentioned (West Virginia & Rutgers) are more impressive. Too bad UConn hadn't beaten out the likes of Penn State or Georgia or South Carolina.

All in all sounds like this kid has the potential to come in and at least be a Lyle McCombs-like back. Don't know if he has Todman or Donald Brown-like talent. Time will tell.