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Ha, I was going to say the same thing, nice name by the way. Pep talks are great and all buttoned got to win games. Especially an exhibition, against AIC. Hopefully things are different in March but getting out rebounded against a DII team isn't a good sign of things to come
 

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i was expecting this thread sooner knowing this place... it'll be there after every game though
 
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Tongue-in-cheek I know, but the thing I'll be looking for is improvement. As mentioned in another thread, Ollie indeed does have much to prove this season as he's basically auditioning for a permanent gig. The whole Bell thing is not encouraging from the recruiting front (just my $.02 so don't anyone go all bonkers) but if Ollie strikes out a bit on recruiting, he will need to show real growth throughout the year in how the team performs.

The team is not untalented. but going 10-20 won't impress anyone.
 

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the one year contract is not helping recruiting... not ollie himself hes already proven he can recruit
 
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i forgot we were suppose to beat AIC by 60 in order for this to be a success
No but we were supposed to at least look like a college basketball team. For crying out loud people around here forget we're two years away from a championship. Calhoun unfortunately left us in a mess and if Ollie doesn't work a miracle it's going to be tough for Warde to not hold a national search. Look, I love Calhoun, am a season ticket holder and wouldn't trade that third ring for anything. I also want Ollie here long term but I want to see a team rebound, play defense and execute offensively this year. If he can't get this team to play solid fundamental ball than we need to open this job up to everyone.
 
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how can you fire him! he has never lost a game as HC! Clearly going to the HOF!
 
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No but we were supposed to at least look like a college basketball team. For crying out loud people around here forget we're two years away from a championship. Calhoun unfortunately left us in a mess and if Ollie doesn't work a miracle it's going to be tough for Warde to not hold a national search. Look, I love Calhoun, am a season ticket holder and wouldn't trade that third ring for anything. I also want Ollie here long term but I want to see a team rebound, play defense and execute offensively this year. If he can't get this team to play solid fundamental ball than we need to open this job up to everyone.

Relax, it was the first exhibition game and they showed improvement after a slow start. The sky isn't falling. Yet.
 

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Syracuse lost an exhibition game to a DII team a few years ago and went on to win the big east (I think) and had a great seed for the tourny, where they went out early as usual. It's a W from a very young and very new team of moving parts. Now is not the time to panic or hyperbole.
 
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I had a feeling this game was going to be a trip to the dentist. This was a new experience for EVERYONE involved. Obviously this was the first game ever with Ollie as HC and im sure that will take getting used to for the players as well as the coaching staff.
 
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Obviously this was the first game ever with Ollie as HC and im sure that will take getting used to for the players as well as the coaching staff.

And the fans;)
 
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No but we were supposed to at least look like a college basketball team. For crying out loud people around here forget we're two years away from a championship. Calhoun unfortunately left us in a mess and if Ollie doesn't work a miracle it's going to be tough for Warde to not hold a national search. Look, I love Calhoun, am a season ticket holder and wouldn't trade that third ring for anything. I also want Ollie here long term but I want to see a team rebound, play defense and execute offensively this year. If he can't get this team to play solid fundamental ball than we need to open this job up to everyone.

what are u smoking? ITS AN EXHIBITION GAME. A team with a new coach and multiple new players. If halfway through the season we look like yesterday ( we won by 15 points), then you can scream all you want. But pull urself off the side of the bridge after one game.
 
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No but we were supposed to at least look like a college basketball team. For crying out loud people around here forget we're two years away from a championship. Calhoun unfortunately left us in a mess and if Ollie doesn't work a miracle it's going to be tough for Warde to not hold a national search. Look, I love Calhoun, am a season ticket holder and wouldn't trade that third ring for anything. I also want Ollie here long term but I want to see a team rebound, play defense and execute offensively this year. If he can't get this team to play solid fundamental ball than we need to open this job up to everyone.

yeah and how many of the guys who were major contributors on that team are still here? we're playing 4 new guys in a 9 man rotation and with new HC... relax over there CHIEF.
 
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The team is not untalented. but going 10-20 won't impress anyone.
What are you talking about? As long as he shows up for 50% of the games and wears matching shoes he deserves a 5 year extension...Games like this don't tell you too much since I think coaches tend to use them to experiment with things. Anyone really think we'll see much of some of those guys in real games? Although struggling in the first half against a completely undermanned D-2 team isn't great news.
 
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Tongue-in-cheek I know, but the thing I'll be looking for is improvement. As mentioned in another thread, Ollie indeed does have much to prove this season as he's basically auditioning for a permanent gig. The whole Bell thing is not encouraging from the recruiting front (just my $.02 so don't anyone go all bonkers) but if Ollie strikes out a bit on recruiting, he will need to show real growth throughout the year in how the team performs.

The team is not untalented. but going 10-20 won't impress anyone.

Guess if two choices are "encouraging" or " not encouraging"; guess you made the better choice.
 
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Let me see:

1. 1st exhibition game, under a new coach who is coaching his first basketball game of his career.

2 We won the game by 15 points, after losing a number of top players from last year.

3. We came from 10 pointd down to win by 15 and outscored AIC by 25 points from that point forward.

4. We have a freshman who scored 24 points in his first game.

5. We played much better in the second half than the first.

6. We are learning a new offense and defense.

7. We outrebounded AIC 39/31

A very credible coaching job for his first game. I am satisfied.

Congratulations to the team and the coaching staff for the win!



















Let's see how many people fall for this.
 

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Let me see:

1. 1st exhibition game, under a new coach who is coaching his first basketball game of his career.

2 We won the game by 15 points, after losing a number of top players from last year.

3. We came from 10 pointd down to win by 15 and outscored AIC by 25 points from that point forward.

4. We have a freshman who scored 24 points in his first game.

5. We played much better in the second half than the first.

6. We are learning a new offense and defense.

7. We outrebounded AIC 39/31

A very credible coaching job for his first game. I am satisfied.

Congratulations to the team and the coaching staff for the win!

Very good point fgbrault

Additional considerations:
They have no credible post players.
Players such as DD and NG played the 4 and they are primarily 3's
SN showed the effects of the surgery and the delay of playing with the new players and new system.

With all your points and the ones I added I consider the game wasn't surprising at all and felt as you do - it was a quality win.

And this thread demonstrates the difficulty in assessing Kevin Ollie's coaching performance for the season. Assessment is subjective. Everyone has their own standards of assessment and can find ways to justify that assessment. There are many different agendas and needs by the fans and alumni, the university, the players, Warde Manuel, Sue Herbst, and the Board of Trustees. When the final verdict comes to deciding Kevin Ollies' ability to coach it will be about a lot of different things and not just recruiting and x's and o's. If the people with the power want KO next season they will rehire him and find the attributes of his coaching this season that support their decision. If they want to fire him after this season, they will find the weaknesses in his coaching to support their decision. And unless KO has an incredibly successful or unsuccessful season, there will be enough people to support either decision.
 
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Let me see:

1. 1st exhibition game, under a new coach who is coaching his first basketball game of his career.

2 We won the game by 15 points, after losing a number of top players from last year.

3. We came from 10 pointd down to win by 15 and outscored AIC by 25 points from that point forward.

4. We have a freshman who scored 24 points in his first game.

5. We played much better in the second half than the first.

6. We are learning a new offense and defense.

7. We outrebounded AIC 39/31

A very credible coaching job for his first game. I am satisfied.

Congratulations to the team and the coaching staff for the win!
Very good point fgbrault

Additional considerations:
They have no credible post players.
Players such as DD and NG played the 4 and they are primarily 3's
SN showed the effects of the surgery and the delay of playing with the new players and new system.

With all your points and the ones I added I consider the game wasn't surprising at all and felt as you do - it was a quality win.

And this thread demonstrates the difficulty in assessing Kevin Ollie's coaching performance for the season. Assessment is subjective. Everyone has their own standards of assessment and can find ways to justify that assessment. There are many different agendas and needs by the fans and alumni, the university, the players, Warde Manuel, Sue Herbst, and the Board of Trustees. When the final verdict comes to deciding Kevin Ollies' ability to coach it will be about a lot of different things and not just recruiting and x's and o's. If the people with the power want KO next season they will rehire him and find the attributes of his coaching this season that support their decision. If they want to fire him after this season, they will find the weaknesses in his coaching to support their decision. And unless KO has an incredibly successful or unsuccessful season, there will be enough people to support either decision.
To me these games don't tell you all that much. You could make a case that the team wasn't well prepared and simply wore down a badly overmatched opponent. But you could make a case that they showed what they can really do once they got comfortable in a game setting. and without knowing exactly what the coach's plan was, did he want to see what Daniels could do at the 4 and left him in there longer, did he want to give Nolan more time to adjust to big time consitions? all those things might or might not come into play. I do think, though that you need to keep in mind that this was the AIC Yellowjackets, not Georgia Tech.
 
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