To expand on this, on actual FG% at the rim Martin is shooting 61.8% at the rim this year and 54.4% last year. Data only goes back to 2013-14 so that's as far back as I could go.
Just came here to post something similar. Here are stats from the past two years (link is for this year).
Maybe. I remember having the feeling of watching those guys and being comfortable whenever watching them try to beat their man off the dribble and go up. Just being able to create their own bucket in general.
He NEEDS camps next summer where he can spend time doing that. The jumpshot is flowing. With all that talent he just has to learn how to be able to use it around the rim. His HS highlights were ridiculous with the way he can just dunk on guys. Lol. There’d be some plays where he’d blow an easy layup and use it as an off the glass alley oop.
Tyrese Martin is SO much better than he was last year. His jump shot is money at this point. I wouldn’t call him an acrobatic finisher like all of those guys though. That and being able to pass the ball are things that’s keeping him from being an NBA talent because he does everything else well. Do we really think Tyrese is better at finishing at the rim than any of those guys this year?
If you had asked me before I looked at the stats I might have said no, but he is objectively shooting better at the rim than those guys. I also don't think it's a perfect comparison since his are generally off rebounds and the others are creating their own shot off the dribble
Yeah martin is taking different kinds of shots at the rim then the penetrators like bouk et al did. They aren’t off the dribble and over/around a defender. Not as high a degree of difficulty.
But I'll take Kemba's best two weeks.
Yeah I think that context is important there. Us not being great at finishing at the rim off the dribble can hurt our transition offense too. A lot of those guys named were unstoppable in the open court on a fast break.
Gaffney? What is your definition of a dynamic finisher?
and often getting fouled and being very tough from the free throw line. I see some of this from Cole who is really stepping up; doing all the little and not so little things (taking charges). Invincible from the line. Kid has a heart for the game and team. Hope he has a great end to his career with a run at the end of the year. But he is going to need other guys to think on the court and cut down on TO's and step up with toughness.
Gaff finishes the ones that go in. The other 80% are blocked.
You are definitely making an important point about the distinction between a good shooting team and a good offensive team. Points per possession (or more advanced offensive metrics) is a much better indicator of offensive talent than just shooting percentage. Per KenPom, we are 156th in effective FG%, 210th in 2-PT FG%, and 81st in 3-PT%, but 20th in adjusted offensive efficiency. A big part of that is because we are 2nd in the country in offensive rebounding percentage. We’re also solidly above average in terms of getting to the line and not turning the ball over. Are we susceptible to a team that keeps us off the offensive glass on a night when our shots don’t fall? Probably. Still, despite looking bad every few games, we are a much better offensive team than some people give us credit for.
17 on the year for Cole, and I think it should have been 18. I didn't see a replay of the block they called on him towards the end of the first half, but watching it live it sure looked like a charge to me
thx for the data. I knew Martin was doing better at the rim, but didn’t realize he’s improved that much. He’s allowed to have an off night. But to compare him at 6’6 to guys like Boat or Bazz is the wrong comp IMO.
