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Finally, New Presser Content. Ice Brady

I don’t think Ice has the engine to be Morrow or Boston but it wouldn’t surprise me if she were better than ONO offensively. Geno loves that big that can shoot from the foul line. It’s a game changer.

Boston didn't have the "engine" until this past year. Until this past year she had conditioning problems. She was still great but her hard work really brought her up a couple of notches this year. Ice may have a conditioning curve too. Well see.
 
I'll give you Boston (nobody else in the nation can stick with her), but I think Ice will be able to stick with Morrow. Maybe not immediately, but by the second game this year or first next.

Just my opinion, not Geno's own truth.
Ice will be better than Morrow. Skill set is better. Jumper, high post game etc etc…. You shall see. Ice has the potential to be a UConn great! She is built for this.
 
I think Ice will develop into an interesting mix of Tuck and Collier.
Solid take. That would be one heck of a combo and definitely one combo we would love to have for the team. I think once Ice gets use to the pace and physical level of play at the college level, she is going to be special.
 
Why are you skeptical of Patterson who has dominated at every level she has competed in?
Because I haven’t seen her play against Division 1 level talent yet. I take into account that most of players she played with and against ARE NOT Division 1 level talent. I want/need to see what she can do playing against players as talented as she is, and in most cases older that she is. It doesn’t take real cream long to rise to the top. We all have high expectations of our incoming freshmen.

Because there is a huge difference between high school and elite-level college basketball, unless I see them in person or on TV in a game(s), I have a wait-and-see attitude. There are posters here whose opinions and player assessment skills I respect and trust. If they say one of our incoming freshmen is can’t miss, I take that as gospel. Otherwise I want to see what a player can do in a game or two.

I’ve only seen one player in the class os 2023 in person (twice). There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that she will be a very good to great player in college. She’s the number 2 ranked player in the class. Judea “Juju” Watkins. Still uncommitted, she has offers from many of the top-ranked programs in the country. She will help whatever program she goes to. She does everything. Shoot, pass, rebound, and plays defense. She is her team’s floor general. She was without a doubt the best player on the floor those two games.
 
I’ve only seen one player in the class os 2023 in person (twice). There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that she will be a very good to great player in college. She’s the number 2 ranked player in the class. Judea “Juju” Watkins. Still uncommitted, she has offers from many of the top-ranked programs in the country. She will help whatever program she goes to. She does everything. Shoot, pass, rebound, and plays defense. She is her team’s floor general. She was without a doubt the best player on the floor those two games.
I’ve seen the video of her game against LJCDS (Breya Cunningham and Jada Williams) last year. A close game decided in the final seconds. Watkins basically carried her team to the win on both ends of the court. Undoubtedly a Div 1 talent. I think she’s 6’1 or 6’2” but plays much larger.
 
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On a related note, I’ve mentioned before a game Ice played against LJCDS. They are a major HS team with at least two div 1 prospects. Lots of athletes. Ice’s team, CCHS, is really only Ice and a scrappy group of skinny little kids — one girl at 6’0”, the rest 5’9” or smaller, including sisters who look to be 5’4” at the outside. They’ve got some good shooters. But they are much smaller than the teams they play against. It really just Ice and some little kids. In other words, she’s used to getting double and triple teamed. She’s used to getting ALL the rebounds.
 
On a related note, I’ve mentioned before a game Ice played against LJCDS. They are a major HS team with at least two div 1 prospects. Lots of athletes. Ice’s team, CCHS, is really only Ice and a scrappy group of skinny little kids — one girl at 6’0”, the rest 5’9” or smaller, including sisters who look to be 5’4” at the outside. They’ve got some good shooters. But they are much smaller than the teams they play against. It really just Ice and some little kids. In other words, she’s used to getting double and triple teamed. She’s used to getting ALL the rebounds.
Some players have "can't miss" written all over them. Ice is one of those players. I'm not concerned if she will "get it", she will and soon. There is no doubt in my mind that Ice Brady is the real deal.

Like former NY Giants head coach Jim Fassel, when he guaranteed his Giants were going to the playoffs, I'm betting on on Ice Brady. I'm shoving ALL MY CHIPS to the center of the table. I'm ALL IN on her. I'm very comfortable in doing so. Betting on Ice is not gambling or speculation, it's an investment. ;) One of the best coaches pronouncements of all times. It's right up there with Denny Green's "They were who we thought they were".

 
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LJCDS is a smaller school than the one Ice went to but it is a very exclusive private school ( both are private but LJCDS is dripping in private money). I'm sure lots of their athletes have full rides.
 
LJCDS is a smaller school than the one Ice went to but it is a very exclusive private school ( both are private but LJCDS is dripping in private money). I'm sure lots of their athletes have full rides.
I wasn’t talking about the size of the schools but of the players. It’s clear that, like many other prep schools, LJCDS recruits for their sports teams and invests heavily in them. I don’t think CCHS does either one, though I could be misinformed on this.
 
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Brady ran the floor really hard in USA Basketball in transition There is at least some motor in her already and it will only purr louder as she gets in UConn shape

If she can go hard for 20 min/gm that will be great. Freshmen posts tend to be in foul trouble a lot anyway. :)
 
Brady ran the floor really hard in USA Basketball in transition There is at least some motor in her already and it will only purr louder as she gets in UConn shape
I agree, Brady typically beat everyone down the floor and had great post position with her defender on her back waiting for the ball. I was impressed with her defense also. She was hedging like it was second nature. And during one game, they were playing her and del Rosario together and she was switching 1-4 without an issue (not necessarily the same level of competition as D1, but no slouche's either). She showed quick hands and quick feet.
 
Why are you skeptical of Patterson who has dominated at every level she has competed in?
The same reason I was skeptical of Paige!! Remember, I’m from Missouri. Show me!! Show you can do the things at THIS level that you did in high school. Until I see her unpack her bags and have success against D1 opponents, I’m not convienced.
 
The same reason I was skeptical of Paige!! Remember, I’m from Missouri. Show me!! Show you can do the things at THIS level that you did in high school. Until I see her unpack her bags and have success against D1 opponents, I’m not convienced.
Yeah, Paige has set the bar for UCONN freshmen ridiculously high.
I would be thrilled to see Ice, who seems to have all the tools to be something special, take a few games to get her feet wet and learn the difference between the right way, the wrong way, and Geno’s way.
Then, depending on how the first line is meshing and performing, start to establish herself as a force in NC games.
A lot will depend on how well Aubrey has mended physically and if she can shake off the inevitable rust.
The line for “6th Woman” may form behind Aubrey.
 
The same reason I was skeptical of Paige!! Remember, I’m from Missouri. Show me!! Show you can do the things at THIS level that you did in high school. Until I see her unpack her bags and have success against D1 opponents, I’m not convienced.
I have some of the wait and see burden of proof with regards to Ayanna, but mostly regarding her ability to score down low. I consider good rebounding and defense to be traits I am already convinced about, but based on the clips I have seen, it appears to me that when Ayanna scores around the basket it is usually a jump-shot where she rises above both smaller and less athletic defenders. She hasn't really developed much variety or moves partly because she hasn't had to. She just overpowers players inside.

At this level that might work to a certain extent, but against some top C's those shots will be rejected. Ayanna will probably have a better vertical than almost everyone she plays against, but will spot some bigs several inches, and she will need to shield the ball away from her defender better, and develop more moves. Her ability to score on the block of course will be tested regularly going against our own bigs in practice, so we will probably know her potential there pretty soon.

With Ice it is quite different. She has a very smooth variety of low post moves and has demonstrated a perimeter shot more than Ayanna so far. For her I am confident that she will find ways to be an effective scorer, but I'm not sure if she will be elite at rebounding or shot-blocking, although I think she will be pretty good. I haven't seen enough of her for a good opinion, but she looks like she has pretty good horizontal mobility and is very smooth, but is only mediocre on her vertical.

Could be wrong on both players, but both have traits I am confident will be very good, and a couple of wait and see question marks, that are quite different for both players IMO. Their floor is pretty high based on their known strengths, and if the question marks are answered affirmatively, the ceilings could be very high.
 
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Brady ran the floor really hard in USA Basketball in transition There is at least some motor in her already and it will only purr louder as she gets in UConn shape

I agree, Brady typically beat everyone down the floor and had great post position with her defender on her back waiting for the ball. I was impressed with her defense also. She was hedging like it was second nature. And during one game, they were playing her and del Rosario together and she was switching 1-4 without an issue (not necessarily the same level of competition as D1, but no slouche's either). She showed quick hands and quick feet.

I’ll state the obvious — this was BEFORE Jamelle and CD began training her. The arrow is only pointing in one direction now, and that’s up.
 
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The same reason I was skeptical of Paige!! Remember, I’m from Missouri. Show me!! Show you can do the things at THIS level that you did in high school. Until I see her unpack her bags and have success against D1 opponents, I’m not convienced.

That's a legit POV. But then I remember that both Bueckers and Fudd played 2 years above their age so they have already faced and dominated many of the top players already enrolled in college before they even got there. Bueckers won the world U19 championship MOP with college-level teammates
Fran Belibi
Aliyah Boston
Queen Egbo
Naz Hilmon
Rhyne Howard
Ashley Joens

It was an historically impressive lineup. I left Celeste Taylor and Caitlan Clark off since they were in Bueckers' class. And remember, Fudd won the NHSPOY that year as a sophomore and then tore her ACL or she would also have been on that team.

Generally in the past I've been a wait and see fan with freshmen but for the last 2 years UConn freshmen have come in and played significant roles right through the NCAA's, when Geno's bench always gets short. It seems that HS players are learning college level skills at an earlier age, and now, in the NIL age, elite training in HS seems to be more common. Maybe the women are catching up to the men, where freshmen commonly start and star.
 
I don’t think Ice has the engine to be Morrow or Boston but it wouldn’t surprise me if she were better than ONO offensively. Geno loves that big that can shoot from the foul line. It’s a game changer.
i agree on Boston vs Ice. Morrow, is a different case. Everything for me depends on seeing ICE in action on the floor. I thought Morrow was a "deceptive" player, in every meaning of the word. She got away, in the game with Uconn, with more than Edwards. If she hadn't Her success could have been less. She is a physical power, with a great shot in close.
I m holding back a bit, but ICE could be Uconn's answers to Morrows on any team.
 
That's a legit POV. But then I remember that both Bueckers and Fudd played 2 years above their age so they have already faced and dominated many of the top players already enrolled in college before they even got there. Bueckers won the world U19 championship MOP with college-level teammates
Fran Belibi
Aliyah Boston
Queen Egbo
Naz Hilmon
Rhyne Howard
Ashley Joens

It was an historically impressive lineup. I left Celeste Taylor and Caitlan Clark off since they were in Bueckers' class. And remember, Fudd won the NHSPOY that year as a sophomore and then tore her ACL or she would also have been on that team.

Generally in the past I've been a wait and see fan with freshmen but for the last 2 years UConn freshmen have come in and played significant roles right through the NCAA's, when Geno's bench always gets short. It seems that HS players are learning college level skills at an earlier age, and now, in the NIL age, elite training in HS seems to be more common. Maybe the women are catching up to the men, where freshmen commonly start and star.
I think everyone learned how successful Freshmen could be. But Uconn has had very very successful freshmen over the years. Of all the years I 've spent on court side at Uconn and watching on TV, this past season, for me, was exceptional. Freshmen and Sophomores led the way. Without them, I'm on fairly firm ground with, it may not have ended so well--yes, even losing an NC can be an exceptional season.
 
We can only hope!! Of all the players on this team, the two I'm going to pay immediate attention to is DeBerry first, and Ayanna Patterson second. I want to see if either or both of them can play with the first unit (the BIG girls) or not. Just like in the WNBA, there are two units...the starters, and the reserves or the second unit. We can pretty much figure out who will be in the first unit. That's low hanging fruit.
The question is how many or which one of the reserves can hang with the starters and be productive? All of the newbies come in unproven and with a question mark on their jersey. How long that question mark remains on their jersey is up to them.

I remember my skepticism of Paige and how well and quickly she could adapt to play at this level. Remember the first 3 games (Quinnipiac, Maine/Mississippi State and Louisville) of the season were canceled because of the COVID19 virus outbreak?

Remember when Geno (desperate for a game) called UMass-Lowell for a game? They gladly accepted. I would have settled for a game with with the "Little Sisters of the Poor" at that point. I just just wanted the team to play a game. Other programs had already played 3-4 games before we played one.

THAT was the first "LIVE" game I saw Paige in. While UMass-Lowell is a low-major program, they are D1. I was thoroughly impressed with Paige. Any doubts/fears that I had about her were quickly alleviated. I wanted the ball in HER hands after seeing her "showcase" her talents that afternoon. I don't think it's going to take more than 1-2 games for us to figure out which of the newbies is ready (or will be very soon) for prime time minutes.
This is not 100 percent accurate, for sure. I believed for many decades that top players play well at most levels. Paige, Azzi, Caroline and Uconn historic greats have proven that. Some that don't probably shouldn't have been considered (harsh, huh?). Right now, I'm believing Uconn kids for 9 or so players are in that "can play anywhere" category, while healthy.
I'm still in the wait and see group, I have high hopes, high apple pie in the sky hope, oops there goes
 
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If Morrow can do it, why can’t Brady? She has the height, weight, and experience playing in the paint. All she needs is the heart and the opportunity.
It's only a dream when it doesn't come true. OPPORTUNITY is knocking!!
 
“I want to do what it takes, whatever the role the coaches have for me that will help us win championships is what I’ll do,” Brady said. “Whether it’s getting all the rebounds, making good passes, scoring in the post, I’ll do whatever it takes.” - Ice Brady.

How can you not root and cheer for a player with that attitude? I'm telling you, I like this young lady. I don't think she'll disappoint.
I've said it many times, and I'll say it again.........she takes a no no sense approach to playing and learning the game. She plays under control,
and she plays with a sense of urgency. I'm very interested to see her development by mid January (14-15 games). The training wheels should have come off by then as the game should have slowed down and her sea legs are steady and firm beneath her. ;)
“The number one thing is the level of intensity. When I had my first individual workout with CD I learned very quickly that things here are faster, more intense, more elite than anything I’ve done.” ~ Ice Brady.

Her comment mirrors EXACTLY those that Crystal Dangerfield given during an interview after the second day of official practice her freshman year. Crystal said (I'm paraphrasing) "of all the junior high, high school and AAU basketball games and practices I've ever participated in, NOTHING has prepared me for what I've gone through these first two days of practice."

Lots of adjustments for freshmen to make at this level. The most notable is the difference in the speed of the game at the ELITE college level, and the size and quickness of other players. It's an adjustment every freshman makes. Some like Paige and Maya make it very quickly. Everything I've seen and read about Brady tells me she's special. From what I can see, she takes a serious no non sense approach to playing and improving her game. I believe Brady could become one of the predominate post players in the country by her junior year.

Don't hold me to this, but I think once she gets her sea legs, and the game slows down for her, she could possibly become our Aliyah Boston. :rolleyes:
There are HS conferences and AAU conferences and there are those that play the best most of the season. All experiences aren't equal. Brady hasn't seen it all but she is no novice to big time BB. How well did she do this summer, did she hide, foul a lot, not take shots? That is one of my indicators--Uconn's kids that play internationally pre Uconn and excelled mostly were standouts.
Big really big 6 ft 5 or taller, some are stars in little ponds. Size alone is enough. In Div 1, size doesn't cut it. Skill with size is only the starter.
 
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I thought Morrow was a "deceptive" player, in every meaning of the word. She got away, in the game with Uconn, with more than Edwards.
I’ve commented on this before. When we played them in Chicago, she got away with a lot and Aaliyah and the other bigs were dinged with touch fouls all game long. It was a different story in Storrs. She got more balanced officiating and it affected her game. She still had a good game, but she wasn’t a decisive factor, no longer an unstoppable force as in the previous game.

I think the biased officiating did her a disservice and I think it showed in the tournament. She’s an awesome player who doesn’t need help from the officials. But she also needs to manage her fouls better, and she can’t learn that with biased officiating.
 
I think everyone learned how successful Freshmen could be. But Uconn has had very very successful freshmen over the years. Of all the years I 've spent on court side at Uconn and watching on TV, this past season, for me, was exceptional. Freshmen and Sophomores led the way. Without them, I'm on fairly firm ground with, it may not have ended so well--yes, even losing an NC can be an exceptional season.

The last 2 classes have been exceptional. Maybe that's why I'm so optimistic about the freshmen. Bettincourt will need some time but the other two look like impact players.
 
Another Brady article with different quotes and a lot of personal background.


“Very physical player,” said fifth-year post player Dorka Juhász, ....

“She’s a super physical player. She shoots great. She’s a hard-working girl. Even in the weight room, you guys should see it, just the big weights. She is super strong. I think she’s fitting in perfectly and I’m very excited about her. Obviously (freshmen) are going to be put in the deep water right away because everybody needs to jump in this season.”
 
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