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February General CBB Discussion Thread

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gsmooth said:
It's too bad. Penny and Grant Hill were my favorite NBA players in the mid 1990s and if it weren't for career debilitating injuries like the knee injury and ankle injury, respectively, they would have been NBA icons. LIke Shaq said in the 30 for 30 special on the Orlando Magic on ESPN, "Shaq and Penny was Shaq and Kobe before Shaq and Kobe".

Having said all of that, Penny is a terrible coach and had no experience coaching college basketball, as a head coach or an assistant, before becoming head coach of Memphis. His prior experience was being a head coach of a Memphis high school team for a few years. Because of that prior experience and his ties in the community of Memphis and his ability, or perceived ability to recruit, he got the Memphis Tigers coaching job. I don't mind that he got an opportunity for this job, but he has been there for 8 years and has not done nearly enough. It's time for him to go just like it was time for Patrick Ewing to go.
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When is the last time an NBA star became a good head coach? With coaching you need a repeatable system focused on the details, multi faceted.
 
Great players don’t become great coaches because the game comes so naturally and easily to them that they can’t teach the game. They never have the learn the little things that average and below have to learn to carve out a career

Larry was a great coach because despite having amazing natural talent he worked on those little things
 
OSU was down 10 like a minute ago. Now dow 3 to MSU. 14 ticks left
 
Coach K was hateable but I did respect him to a degree. And the way he went out losing 2x to UNC during his farewell tour really tied a bow on his career.

Scheyer has won nothing and cries every time his team loses. He's also leading the charge to end court storming which is one of the best parts of cbb. IMO just as hateable as K
 
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Dove said:
OSU was down 10 like a minute ago. Now dow 3 to MSU. 14 ticks left
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MSU is a program who seems to consistently pull together S16 type teams with no ceiling beyond that. They should always be ecstatic if they make an Elite 8. Not one portal kid in the starting 5. If Izzo had gone out and supplement Fears & Carr with a really good outside shooter and one good athlete in their front court, they could be a good team.
 
RuffRuff said:
MSU is a program who seems to consistently pull together S16 type teams with no ceiling beyond that. They should always be ecstatic if they make an Elite 8. Not one portal kid in the starting 5. If Izzo had gone out and supplement Fears & Carr with a really good outside shooter and one good athlete in their front court, they could be a good team.
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Izzo has taken Michigan State to 8 final fours.
 
superjohn said:
Izzo has taken Michigan State to 8 final fours.
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Two since 2010. None since 2019. Game has changed a LOT since then. He got to an Elite 8 last year - my guess is he never gets beyond that again until he retires. Great coach, stubborn. All it took was 1-2 portal splashes for this team to be a contender.

Anyone that contexts what anyone did prior to 2022 or so - it's not relevant anymore.
 
RuffRuff said:
Two since 2010. None since 2019. Game has changed a LOT since then. He got to an Elite 8 last year - my guess is he never gets beyond that again until he retires. Great coach, stubborn. All it took was 1-2 portal splashes for this team to be a contender.

Anyone that contexts what anyone did prior to 2022 or so - it's not relevant anymore.
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Why do you constantly do this?
 
superjohn said:
Why do you constantly do this?
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Did you not start a discussion around Izzo? The whole point is that someone that stubbornly doesn't use the portal has limited upside. So a F4 in 2019 isn't all that relevant today.
 
RuffRuff said:
Did you not start a discussion around Izzo? The whole point is that someone that stubbornly doesn't use the portal has limited upside. So a F4 in 2019 isn't all that relevant today.
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I think the question relates to you constantly making predictions that have become a bigger curse than the Madden cover
 
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BGesus4 said:
I think the question relates to you constantly making predictions that have become a bigger curse than the Madden cover
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lol - hot takes. I would be surprised if Izzo made another F4.
 
RuffRuff said:
Did you not start a discussion around Izzo? The whole point is that someone that stubbornly doesn't use the portal has limited upside. So a F4 in 2019 isn't all that relevant today.
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I replied to your post correcting you.

You make these declarative statements over and over and they're almost always inaccurate. When someone responds correcting the record you always change the goalposts.
 
superjohn said:
I replied to your post correcting you.

You make these declarative statements over and over and they're almost always inaccurate. When someone responds correcting the record you always change the goalposts.
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I didn't say he didn't win past F4's. Sorry if I didn't elaborate that I meant today and not historically. Point was not using the portal has it's limitations.
 
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I was in the car listening to our sports station and there was an interview with Dauster. Rob was excitedly pointing out the brilliance of Scheyer in figuring out how to use Boozer and offered four specific plays (I don't recall which ones). He went on to say the question isn't when he'll win a championship but whether it will come before some NBA hires him.
 
storrsroars said:
I was in the car listening to our sports station and there was an interview with Dauster. Rob was excitedly pointing out the brilliance of Scheyer in figuring out how to use Boozer and offered four specific plays (I don't recall which ones). He went on to say the question isn't when he'll win a championship but whether it will come before some NBA hires him.
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I’ve heard a lot of May to the NBA as well.

We honestly don’t want top coaches leaving.
 
superjohn said:
I replied to your post correcting you.

You make these declarative statements over and over and they're almost always inaccurate. When someone responds correcting the record you always change the goalposts.
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He is a parody of himself
 
RuffRuff said:
When is the last time an NBA star became a good head coach? With coaching you need a repeatable system focused on the details, multi faceted.
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Larry Bird, Steve Kerr, Jason Kidd, Doc Rivers just a few
 
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Flipside said:
Duke/Michigan atmosphere in DC yesterday



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CGI in Georgetown jerseys and you couldn’t tell the difference. Dookies are the same wine and cheese crowd as the Hoya fans but there’s just more of them.
 


Let’s see who gobbles this kid up. Freshman, 17ppg in 23mpg, 5rpg shooting 52% as a 6’4” guard. Love the hops, craving a bit of this. Does not look like a Hurley profile.
 
RuffRuff said:


Let’s see who gobbles this kid up. Freshman, 17ppg in 23mpg, 5rpg shooting 52% as a 6’4” guard. Love the hops, craving a bit of this. Does not look like a Hurley profile.
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He was originally at Creighton and was suspended for violating team rules and then transferred to McNeese State.
 
RuffRuff said:


Let’s see who gobbles this kid up. Freshman, 17ppg in 23mpg, 5rpg shooting 52% as a 6’4” guard. Love the hops, craving a bit of this. Does not look like a Hurley profile.
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I know highlights don't always tell the complete story, but those highlights make me crave the athleticism and driving ability to the basket this UConn does not have or cannot do besides Silas. I don't know who gobbles him up in the transfer portal, but someone in the P5 will.
superjohn said:
He was originally at Creighton and was suspended for violating team rules and then transferred to McNeese State.
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Hurley and McDermott are somewhat buddies off the court. I wonder if Hurley and his staff would look at Larry Johnson and if they do, does Hurley ask McDermott what his experiences were with him and what team rules Johnson violated? These are questions that just popped into my head that I have no idea how to answer.
 
superjohn said:
He was originally at Creighton and was suspended for violating team rules and then transferred to McNeese State.
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No kidding - exactly what Creighton is missing. Its safe to say he won't be at McNeese next year, looks like an SEC bound kid.
 
RuffRuff said:
No kidding - exactly what Creighton is missing. Its safe to say he won't be at McNeese next year, looks like an SEC bound kid.
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Yep. Creighton would've looked like a very different team with Pop Isaacs, Larry Johnson, and Jackson McAndrew.
 
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