Now I’m rooting against the kid because I wanna manage his expectations, and think his skill set doesn’t mesh well with our veteran, ball dominate, backcourt. Even though I literally posted awhile ago he has sleeper 1st pick potential if he lives up to your expectations. It’s no wonder so many people have you on ignore.
There's like 3 people that do, happy to make it 4 if it saves me from seeing your awful takes
Feel like both of you are forgetting what our offense actually looked like last year.
It's less about assists and who's the lead guard.
It's not really clear what you mean by lead guard, because we don't run a ball screen heavy offense. Are you talking about who takes the shots at the end of the clock? To me the guy with the ball in his hands making plays for himself and others is the lead guard. Assists would surely be a big indicator of that.
I would’ve done it already if I didn’t agree with you that it makes the board unreadable.
What the data says is the Newton 2nd half of the season "lead guard" narrative is overstated. He had a big start of February usage-wise (and the Xavier loss in Jan), but then settled back down to his normal level for the rest of Feb, March, and April (with a few big games sprinkled throughout including the title game). BOTH he and Jackson had more usage in the 2nd of the year post-losing streak.
I consider the lead guard as the guy who initiates the offense. He brings the ball up and gets us into our sets to get things started. At the beginning of the year Andre did that a lot but we adjusted to the point it was almost strictly Newton doing that because of how teams played Andre.It's not really clear what you mean by lead guard, because we don't run a ball screen heavy offense. Are you talking about who takes the shots at the end of the clock? To me the guy with the ball in his hands making plays for himself and others is the lead guard. Assists would surely be a big indicator of that.
Here is the chart of Jackson's assists by game. Do you think it jives with your theory of the season about Newton becoming the lead guard for the 2nd half of the year?
Jackson's usage rate was also higher in the 2nd half of the year post losing streak. It was 15.9 through the losing streak and 17.2 after.
You underestimate us. We don’t even need a game now to determine the future of a player from eternity and beyond.
Lol all I was saying is that I could see I possibility if that was how things played out. I don't know what's wrong with making projections. That's part of the fun in talking basketball is projecting what may happen.
I think our offense is gonna look way different this year. Spencer is a completely different player than Hawkins, and I don’t believe Don will be used the same way Sanogo was. Spencer’s ball handling will allow him to eat into the “Andre role” significantly. I think Castle is gonna thrive when he runs PnR sets with Clingan and spacers around them, but as the third ball handling option in that lineup, I’m not sure how many of those per game he receives?
But as shown by Jackson's stats, Castle can do a TON of playmaking alongside your definition of Newton as the lead guard. He will not be pigeon-holed into an off-ball scorer role if he's not the "lead guard". Castle should do a lot of work in transition, just like Jackson. NBA teams don't care who brings the ball up or make the first dinky pass in a set. They want to see how you can read a defense, see and make the passes necessary to be a PG, use a screen, etc.
I think it'll look a little different, but not way different. We'll run all the sets we had already with Clingan rolling, we'll probably run the pick and pop sets that Sanogo had (as evidenced by that clip of Clingan hitting the pop 3 the other day). All the dribble hand-off/zoom sets (as evidenced by that clip of Clingan hitting Cam backdoor). We'll run a ton of the off ball movement sets for Cam. What will probably happen is that Cam will take a lot more of those curls and zooms and attack the paint for kick outs, lobs, or his own midrange Js vs. shooting off the catch as much as Hawkins did. He won't be able to generate the same space or have the same ability to rise under pressure that Hawkins had (not that Cam is bad at those things, Hawkins was just generational). Same sets, different results. So I don't think Cam will eat into the "Andre role" in that he will be playing a different role in the sets, but will playmake for others all the same. And that's probably one reason he'll average like 14 instead of Hawkins 18, but with a few more assists per game.
Don’t take it personally. I don’t keep track of who makes hot takes anymore. There are so many posters and posts that fit that category I just shake my head and get shocked when a day goes by without any.
It's kind of about more than just making the first pass in the set. There's a reason all the previous guards I listed had growing pains once it was their show and they became the lead guards to be able to properly run a team. That's what that guys responsibility is. It's about more than just assists.
We lost 3 players to the NBA and somehow I think we have more talent this year.
Last year was as close to a perfectly constructed roster as a college basketball team can have. I am as excited as the next guy but let’s not shoot our load after a glorified scrimmage.
FWIW, Tristen Newton received A LOT of ball screens during the tournament.It's not really clear what you mean by lead guard, because we don't run a ball screen heavy offense. Are you talking about who takes the shots at the end of the clock? To me the guy with the ball in his hands making plays for himself and others is the lead guard. Assists would surely be a big indicator of that.
Here is the chart of Jackson's assists by game. Do you think it jives with your theory of the season about Newton becoming the lead guard for the 2nd half of the year?
Jackson's usage rate was also higher in the 2nd half of the year post losing streak. It was 15.9 through the losing streak and 17.2 after.
