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ESPN Updates Top 25 Players In Country

Hillmon kinda underrated here I think. I know stats aren't everything...but look at those numbers!

How is Rickea Jackson only averaging 4 reb/game? You can find plenty of guards without her height or athleticism averaging 6 or 7 per game.
 
Paige now getting the publicity to make a push for AA this year. Maybe not 1st team, but solidly 2nd team right now. We will see how the rest of the season progresses. But good for Paige and well deserved.

Just wanted to edit and say nothing is guaranteed. But I believe that the "hype" and "publicity" that certain players get goes a long way in determining who is on season ending lists. Rhyne Howard will likely win NPOY, but while she's incredibly gifted and a scoring machine, when the ball is NOT in her hands, she tends to disappear. Doesn't set screens, not a great passer, not a hustler without the ball, etc.

Contrast that with Williams - while her ability to make layups and hit 3-pointers is suspect, she's a HUSTLER on the floor. Diving for loose balls, mostly moving well without the ball, and works really hard on defense. But she's way down on the list (probably rightfully so) because her scoring is average this season and her offense has been sloppy.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not arguing that Rhyne's NOT NPOY, but people go ga-ga over her scoring and some of her moves and anoint her top player status, but I bet if the experts really watched all the top players in games, they would see something different. Hype and scoring is uber-important in season ending lists.
 
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Paige and Clark but no Van Lith. Amazing for freshmen to be on this list.
 
How K. Williams makes this list is a big headscratcher. Owusu should be higher. Diamond Miller and Tehina Pao Pao deserve to be on this list.

Naz Hillmon should be top 5...25.7 points, 11.6 rebounds and 64% FG is insane.

McDonald is way overrated at 4. Her numbers look good, but 41% FG and not even a 1.5 A/TO ratio on a borderline top 10 team isn't top 5 worthy.

Also, if they want to put a Tennessee player on here, Burrell is the correct pick, not Davis.
 
bballnut90 said:
How K. Williams makes this list is a big headscratcher. Owusu should be higher. Diamond Miller and Tehina Pao Pao deserve to be on this list.

Naz Hillmon should be top 5...25.7 points, 11.6 rebounds and 64% FG is insane.

McDonald is way overrated at 4. Her numbers look good, but 41% FG and not even a 1.5 A/TO ratio on a borderline top 10 team isn't top 5 worthy.

Also, if they want to put a Tennessee player on here, Burrell is the correct pick, not Davis.
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I'd have disagree in general and Burrell specifically. This is version 2.0 which means version 1.0 was the starting point. Davis has been moved to the bottom which is justifiable based on this year performance, but Burrell has not done enough to get on the list IMO.
 
CocoHusky said:
I'd have disagree in general and Burrell specifically. This is version 2.0 which means version 1.0 was the starting point. Davis has been moved to the bottom which is justifiable based on this year performance, but Burrell has not done enough to get on the list IMO.
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Isn't the list just ranking the top 25 players regardless of where they started? Burrell cut and dry had a better season than Davis thus far IMO. I'm fine if they leave both off but if they pick one, Burrell is the obvious pick.
 
Honestly, I haven't watched enough of these players play in games to comment on this list. I wonder if Charlie Chreme truly has done the type of scouting and film work that should go into putting a list like this together. Ok maybe not scounting (with Covid), but definitely film study.
 
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The top 13 look good to me aside that i would have Paige at 4 and Aari M. way lower. The 14 to 25 is more suspect both in players and placing.
 
What matters the most to me mimics what Geno said last year when asked about landing #1 recruit Paige, to paraphrase him. Is she #1, overall doesn't matter, what matters most to me is that for what we need she is #1. She was then and has proven to be the obvious #1 first year player. That said I add that from my perspective she is the WCBB overall #1. If you don't agree that's fine but I would ask who would you rather have than Paige? Make a trade, let me know.
 
If there would have been n WNBA draft in which 1 year players could participate, I'm sure Paige would have been the number 1 pick but for the season so far (that could change by the end of the season) , i think 4th place is right considering the great seasons the top 3 are having and that Paige didn't get to face any top teams till now.
 
dtbtbtb said:
If there would have been n WNBA draft in which 1 year players could participate, I'm sure Paige would have been the number 1 pick but for the season so far (that could change by the end of the season) , i think 4th place is right considering the great seasons the top 3 are having and that Paige didn't get to face any top teams till now.
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OK, would you trade her for any other? if so OK but if not is she your #1.
 
MooseJaw said:
OK, would you trade her for any other? if so OK but if not is she your #1.
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No, i would not trade her for any other player! that said, this season so far i see her as the 4th best. Do i believe she is the best player in the country, yes i do but she's got some areas to get better in and she will. After seeing her (hopefully) against TN and SC it would give a much better indication of where she is.
 
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dtbtbtb said:
No, i would not trade her for any other player! that said, this season so far i see her as the 4th best. Do i believe she is the best player in the country, yes i do but she's got some areas to get better in and she will. After seeing her (hopefully) against TN and SC it would give a much better indication of where she is.
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In total agreement with you, you made a compelling case.
 
ucbart said:
Hot take

if UCONN hadn’t pissed off ESPN and went to the BE, Paige would be higher, more widely covered, and given more respect.

ESPN shoved Ionescu down our throats for years....
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That isn't true regarding Ionescu. She got little coverage as a freshman on a team that wasn't in the top 25 and didn't sweep FOY awards, let along make any All American team. As a sophomore she was ranked the #8 player entering her sophomore season and A'ja Wilson swept all POY awards and got all of the hype:
www.espn.com

The top 25 women's basketball players for 2017-18

Four UConn players were ranked among the top 10 in our countdown of the best 25 players in the country. But South Carolina senior forward A'ja Wilson tops the list at No. 1.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

Her junior season she split POY awards before deservedly sweeping everything her senior year.

Paige as a freshman is ranked the number 6 player in the nation while only playing 7 games so far against a light schedule. The players ahead of her are 3 returning All-Americans having excellent seasons, the likely #1 WNBA draft pick, and another POY candidate in Haley Jones. She's getting a lot more credit and publicity than Ionescu did at comparable times in their careers. One could absolutely make a strong case that Paige should be higher, or could even argue she's in the running for #1 based on stats and results, but it's still early. She isn't getting shafted or disrespected by being put at #6.
 
bballnut90 said:
That isn't true regarding Ionescu. She got little coverage as a freshman on a team that wasn't in the top 25 and didn't sweep FOY awards, let along make any All American team. As a sophomore she was ranked the #8 player entering her sophomore season and A'ja Wilson swept all POY awards and got all of the hype:
www.espn.com

The top 25 women's basketball players for 2017-18

Four UConn players were ranked among the top 10 in our countdown of the best 25 players in the country. But South Carolina senior forward A'ja Wilson tops the list at No. 1.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

Her junior season she split POY awards before deservedly sweeping everything her senior year.

Paige as a freshman is ranked the number 6 player in the nation while only playing 7 games so far against a light schedule. The players ahead of her are 3 returning All-Americans having excellent seasons, the likely #1 WNBA draft pick, and another POY candidate in Haley Jones. She's getting a lot more credit and publicity than Ionescu did at comparable times in their careers. One could absolutely make a strong case that Paige should be higher, or could even argue she's in the running for #1 based on stats and results, but it's still early. She isn't getting shafted or disrespected by being put at #6.
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She also was not expected to be that good. She became that good. Whereas, everybody knew about Paige, even males(who don’t seem to care about females players who aren’t super pretty or really good.)
 
DeeHusky said:
She also was not expected to be that good. She became that good. Whereas, everybody knew about Paige, even males(who don’t seem to care about females players who aren’t super pretty or really good.)
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Paige has had more hype than probably anyone since Candace Parker/Maya Moore. Her massive social media presence is obviously a partial catalyst but she's been on everyone's radar since day 1. There's no shafting going on.
 
bballnut90 said:
That isn't true regarding Ionescu. She got little coverage as a freshman on a team that wasn't in the top 25 and didn't sweep FOY awards, let along make any All American team. As a sophomore she was ranked the #8 player entering her sophomore season and A'ja Wilson swept all POY awards and got all of the hype:
www.espn.com

The top 25 women's basketball players for 2017-18

Four UConn players were ranked among the top 10 in our countdown of the best 25 players in the country. But South Carolina senior forward A'ja Wilson tops the list at No. 1.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

Her junior season she split POY awards before deservedly sweeping everything her senior year.

Paige as a freshman is ranked the number 6 player in the nation while only playing 7 games so far against a light schedule. The players ahead of her are 3 returning All-Americans having excellent seasons, the likely #1 WNBA draft pick, and another POY candidate in Haley Jones. She's getting a lot more credit and publicity than Ionescu did at comparable times in their careers. One could absolutely make a strong case that Paige should be higher, or could even argue she's in the running for #1 based on stats and results, but it's still early. She isn't getting shafted or disrespected by being put at #6.
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Two years she was, meaning more than 1. Thanks.
 
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bballnut90 said:
Paige has had more hype than probably anyone since Candace Parker/Maya Moore. Her massive social media presence is obviously a partial catalyst but she's been on everyone's radar since day 1. There's no shafting going on.
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It’s worth noting that Hailey Van Lith actually as 11k more followers on Instagram. Paige gets a lot of hype because it’s honestly deserved. She’s far exceeded any preseason expectations I had.
 
Rblack335 said:
It’s worth noting that Hailey Van Lith actually as 11k more followers on Instagram. Paige gets a lot of hype because it’s honestly deserved. She’s far exceeded any preseason expectations I had.
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I agree she deserves all of it. She's fantastic. I'm just saying she's isn't getting shafted with lack of coverage as others suggested.
 
bballnut90 said:
How K. Williams makes this list is a big headscratcher. Owusu should be higher. Diamond Miller and Tehina Pao Pao deserve to be on this list.

Naz Hillmon should be top 5...25.7 points, 11.6 rebounds and 64% FG is insane.

McDonald is way overrated at 4. Her numbers look good, but 41% FG and not even a 1.5 A/TO ratio on a borderline top 10 team isn't top 5 worthy.

Also, if they want to put a Tennessee player on here, Burrell is the correct pick, not Davis.
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Agree with you about Burrell. Always had the talent. That Sophomore to Jr. maturity level is a big part of it. More consistent this year. Love watching her play.
 
Quite a bit on that list Doesn't make sense to me..
For starters;
How Does CW (14.6 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 3.4 APG) rank higher than Liv? (16.3 PPG, 7.7 RPG, 2 BPG)
Why is Aliyah Boston(13.6 PPG, 10.7 RPG, 2.2 BPG) ranked that High? 12th
Why is Charli Collier (21.6 PPG, 9.9 RPG, 57.9% FG) not ranked Higher than Hailey Jones? (15.2 PPG, 9.4 RPG, 3.5 APG52.8% FG)
Why is Naz Hillman not ranked higher than 11th (25.7 PPG, 11.6 RPG, 64.2 FG) her numbers may currently be the Best of the bunch...
Fran Belibi (12.0 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 57.6 FG) ranked Higher than Liv? (16.3 PPG, 7.7 RPG, 2 BPG), what a disrespect...
 
Ionescu stood out at the McDonalds all star game. She virtually willed her team to a win. For that one game, she was the best of the best. She got the nation's attention through her play in that game.
 
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