ESPN Saying Uconn May Be Next...

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[Drumguy]

We can blame Texas A & M for this latest mess.

 

[Wbbfan1]

Actually you can blame Texas for this mess. Can't blame A&M when the Longhorn Network was going to give Texas Approx $25 million extra a year and get their athletic teams on TV more then any other Big 12 team.

 

[Wonkster]

Well, there's only one thing for certain - Storrs is a helluva lot closer to the Atlantic Coast than Pittsburgh, Syracuse, South Bend or Missouri are!

 

[Wonkster]

We can blame Texas A & M for this latest mess.

I knew I shouldn't have given Gary Blair's nephew that ride home from the Stop & Shop parking lot!

 

[alexrgct]

Actually you can blame Texas for this mess. Can't blame A&M when the Longhorn Network was going to give Texas Approx $25 million extra a year and get their athletic teams on TV more then any other Big 12 team.

Not so much. We approached A&M years ago with a proposal for a joint TV deal. A&M was too cowardly and lacking in vision to see the possibility of it, so, when Texas did it on its own (something A&M also had every right to do, by the way) they ran crying to the SEC like the overly emotional, incompetent jackanapes they are. They're going to be in the basement of the SEC in football, they're not going to play Texas or OU for the foreseeable future, and they're STILL not financially solvent. But at least "they stuck it to tu."

 

[Dman]

wait i dont get this does every single team of uconn go to acc or just couple of teams go

 

[HuskyNan]

wait i dont get this does every single team of uconn go to acc or just couple of teams go

All of them.

 

[Kibitzer]

A possible basketball scenario (long-range and assuming that UConn and Rutgers also join ACC):

ACC North: UConn, Syracuse, Rutgers, Pitt, Maryland, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Boston College.

ACC South: UNC, FSU, Miami, Duke, Clemson, Wake Forest, NC State, Ga Tech.

For basketball scheduling, play 7 division teams twice (home and away) = 14 games. Play all 8 in other division once = 8 games. Total, 22 conference games.

Plan B. Play everybody once = 15 games, add a few OOC games, but make room for division tournament (2 or 3 games) and then championship in MSG (2 more). (I like this better.)

Ka-ching! Ka-ching! Ka-ching!

 

[Kibitzer]

Speculating once again. IF UConn and Rutgers go to the ACC, the 16 member schools, er, programs would represent these Atlantic coast states: Mass. (BC), Conn. (UConn), NY (Syracuse), NJ (Rutgers), Maryland (MU), Virginia (Va. and VaTech), NC (UNC, NC State, Wake Forest, Duke), SC (Clemson), Georgia (GaTech), and Florida (FSU and Miami).

Call it the I-95 Conference.

 

[Georgestarr7]

That's a very impressive lineup. If it does materialize, when would it go into effect? And how do you folks see this affecting our recruiting?

 

[triaddukefan]

That's a very impressive lineup. If it does materialize, when would it go into effect? And how do you folks see this affecting our recruiting?

UCONN, STANFORD, TENNESSEE, and DUKE recruit nationally..... cant see it changing your recruiting that much. Perhaps you will do more recruiting in the South than before..... but again... you guys have gotten recruits from NC, SC, GA in the past few (5) years... not sure about VA and FL.

 

[speedoo]

That's a very impressive lineup. If it does materialize, when would it go into effect? And how do you folks see this affecting our recruiting?

Maybe 2013, or sooner. Big plus for our recruiting, in the southeast... Georgia!

 

[Kibitzer]

It is supposed to take 27 months and $5 million to leave the Big East. My expectation is that these numbers are related. The first goes down in direct relationship to the second one going up.

The Big East's future takes it back to how it got started, as a basketball conference. Surely its bb member schools don't need to have every journalist or radio/tv announcer reminding readers/viewers/listeners that their team is playing (and, YIKES!, possibly losing to) a team on its way to the ACC. Very bad karma.

I think the new alignment begins in September 2012. The Big East football corpse will be cold enough for burial by then.

 

[Replicant]

I wonder what TCU is thinking right about now!

 

[UConnCat]

I wonder what TCU is thinking right about now!

Like it's the Flounder of college sports.

 

[Replicant]

If this comes to pass, as I expect it will, it means Brenda and her Terps can't hide from us anymore!

 

[Replicant]

Like it's the Flounder of college sports.

PERFECT!

 

[ed4ourgirls]

. . . We approached A&M years ago with a proposal for a joint TV deal. A&M was too cowardly and lacking in vision to see the possibility of it . . .

Our apologist for Texas blames A&M for not wanting to join them in sticking it to the other members
of the conference.

Actually it would appear that Texas was lacking in vision for failing to see the possible consequences of
it's excessive greed. I seriously doubt that having the Big 12 blow up in their face was a part of UT's
game plan.

As I've said before, if Texas wants its own TV deal like Notre Dame, it should be a
football independent like Notre Dame.

 

[HuskyNan]

UCONN, STANFORD, TENNESSEE, and DUKE recruit nationally..... cant see it changing your recruiting that much. Perhaps you will do more recruiting in the South than before..... but again... you guys have gotten recruits from NC, SC, GA in the past few (5) years... not sure about VA and FL.

Tiffany Hayes is from Florida. Geno has had some hits and some misses in the greater-DC area, getting Kaili McLaren but not Elizabeth Williams.

 

[Icebear]

Maybe because it is a state university and the state is involved like it or not if things like expansion of the Rent are required.

 

[wire chief]

Not so much. We approached A&M years ago with a proposal for a joint TV deal. A&M was too cowardly and lacking in vision to see the possibility of it, so, when Texas did it on its own (something A&M also had every right to do, by the way) they ran crying to the SEC like the overly emotional, incompetent jackanapes they are. They're going to be in the basement of the SEC in football, they're not going to play Texas or OU for the foreseeable future, and they're STILL not financially solvent. But at least "they stuck it to tu."

Alex, not the "basement", when the SEC has Kentucky, Vanderbilt and the 2 Mississippis.

 

[MilfordHusky]

Tiffany Hayes is from Florida. Geno has had some hits and some misses in the greater-DC area, getting Kaili McLaren but not Elizabeth Williams.

Kaili and Jamelle are from DC. Elizabeth Williams is from Virginia Beach, about 200 miles south. The point is still valid, though. Both areas are in ACC country.

 

[alexrgct]

Our apologist for Texas blames A&M for not wanting to join them in sticking it to the other members
of the conference.

Actually it would appear that Texas was lacking in vision for failing to see the possible consequences of
it's excessive greed. I seriously doubt that having the Big 12 blow up in their face was a part of UT's
game plan.

As I've said before, if Texas wants its own TV deal like Notre Dame, it should be a
football independent like Notre Dame.

You can say it until you're blue in the face, and you'll continue to be wrong.

The ONLY thing that Texas has done that's groundbreaking is to have its own channel based on its Tier 3 TV rights. EVERY school has a right to do with its Tier 3 rights what it pleases. Both Ohio State and Florida have, for years, had in place Tier 3 deals worth nine figures. They just didn't have dedicated channels (tOSU's deal was with CBS College and UF's was with Sunshine Network).

In fact, until the LHN, Kansas by an order of magnitude, was by far the biggest Tier 3 money maker in the Big XII. Literally, an order of magnitude. How was Kansas making all of this money? Simple- they had a terrific basketball brand, and they sold rights to their games not picked up by the Big XII's Tier 1 and 2 contracts to the highest bidder. The highest bidder was willing to pay $7.5 million a year. No one complained, certainly not Texas.

The conference affiliation only matters with Tier 1 and Tier 2 deals. Texas's value as a brand has caused those deals to be lucrative for the entire conference. Its Tier 3 value is Texas's to do as it pleases, just as everyone else in the conference was free to do with its Tier 3 rights what it pleases. Texas specifically tried to create a joint Texas-Texas A&M network, and well as a Big XII-wide network. They failed to see the vision of it, and now Texas has a magnificent network dedicated to its sports only, for which it will receive 100% of its revenues.

The Big XII blowing up is inconsequential. Texas will have a home, it will be able to retain 90% at least of the LHN as currently composed wherever it ends up, and A&M will be stuck in a conference where a) they will get their keysters handed to them in every sport they care about, b) will actually make less money than they will in the Big XII, and c) will learn very quickly that at least half of their new colleagues have significant Tier 3 deals of their own. Poooooooooooooooooooooooooooor Aggies.

Oh, by the way, the LHN is a total canard in all of this. As was reported during the OK State-A&M football game last weekend, Texas A&M's president admitted they'd been looking to leave for a year and a half, well before the LHN deal got inked.

So again, how is this Texas's fault exactly?

 

[alexrgct]

Just to add on to this, I think UConn should have to share its CPTV revenues with the rest of the Big East. Sure, UConn's WBB team was built from the ground up by UConn and its coaching staff, its status and branding has helped every school in the Big East by association, and its programming is exclusive to UConn and the state of Connecticut. But since they're in the Big East, UConn should just have to share the money jsut because.

Does this sound right?