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doggydaddy said:
I do think that they would be more challenged in the ACC.

ND, Duke, UNC all are better than any other team in the AAC.

But you didn't say more challenged, you said challenged. And this year, I would thing that ND and Duke could challenge them. By that I mean keep it close for a lot of the game.

I don't think any of the current ACC teams could keep the final margin inside double digits, so I do see your point. No one will challenge Uconn this season. So what difference does the conference make?

It's the possibility of a challenge. The AAC offers none.
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Doggy I agree the top teams in the ACC could keep it close but looking back at the UNC and Duke games of the past and by how many points UConn won those games, Im not so sure in the end UConn doesn't win by 20+. It may be closer because were at Duke. ND I don't believe we play this season and they are without Diggins. The point I was trying to make and perhaps I chose the wrong words was there isn't to much competiton for UConn this season. Some games maybe closer then others , for a while but I really don't think UConn will win a game in single digets. Its going to be very difficult for defenses to defend UConn.
 
Tonyc said:
Doggy I agree the top teams in the ACC could keep it close but looking back at the UNC and Duke games of the past and by how many points UConn won those games, Im not so sure in the end UConn doesn't win by 20+. It may be closer because were at Duke. ND I don't believe we play this season and they are without Diggins. The point I was trying to make and perhaps I chose the wrong words was there isn't to much competiton for UConn this season. Some games maybe closer then others , for a while but I really don't think UConn will win a game in single digets. Its going to be very difficult for defenses to defend UConn.
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I followed what you meant. And I agree. Every time I think that Duke will be a very competitive game, I remember how Jefferson, Tuck, Stewart, KML and Hartley played for team USA this summer.
 
CL82 said:
Of course this assumes that we need more marquee value than our own team for game to worthy of national attention. It is a mistaken assumption.
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Perhaps I should have clarified my statement. I expect UCONN to be on some of the Sunday matchups.... but just cant envision them being on a Big Monday matchup unless its a out of conference opponent.
 
triaddukefan said:
Perhaps I should have clarified my statement. I expect UCONN to be on some of the Sunday matchups.... but just cant envision them being on a Big Monday matchup unless its a out of conference opponent.
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Most of UConn's games on ESPN Big Monday have been against OOC opponents:

2012-2013

1/21/13 v Duke
2/18/13 v Baylor
3/14/13 v ND

2011-2012

1/16/12 v UNC
1/30/12 v Duke
2/13/12 v Oklahoma
2/27/12 v ND

2010-2011

1/17/11 v UNC
1/31/11 v Duke
2/14/11 v Oklahoma

2009-2010

1/18/10 v Duke
2/15/10 v Oklahoma
3/1/10 v ND
 
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ND's schedule has been released:

http://www.und.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/082813aaa.html

OOC opponents include:

UNC Wilmington
Michigan State
Valparaiso
@Penn
DePaul
Duquesne
@Penn State
UCLA
@Michigan
Central Michigan
@Oregon State
South Dakota State
@Tennessee

Four of ND's games will be on ESPN/ESPN2 (Duke twice, Maryland and Tennessee).
 
Irish schedule is definitely backloaded -- they could be undefeated when they travel to Knoxville in mid-January.
Biggest challenge before that will be the December stretch @ Penn St/vs UCLA/@Mich.
 
UConnCat said:
Most of UConn's games on ESPN Big Monday have been against OOC opponents:
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Oops.... I should have known that
 
Coler said:
I want to know if the series with Rutgers was canceled, and if so who canceled it...(I believe we've played each other for the past 5 or 6 seasons if not longer) or, if it just wasn't renewed.

*shrugs*

RU plays LSU & Georgia this year...so I guess that's cool.
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I haven't heard anything about the Rutgers series. I did expect to see that game on the schedule.
 
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UConn is the number 1 draw in WCBB. They will be on TV because they will put money in everybodys pockets. So the OOC schedule will settle that .
 
Notre Dame's OOC schedule Sagarin ratings

269 UNC Wilmington
20 Michigan State
203 Valparaiso
167 @Penn
52 DePaul
63 Duquesne
9 @Penn State
24 UCLA
41 @Michigan
48 Central Michigan
111 @Oregon State
90 South Dakota State
8 @Tennessee

Mean rank is 85. If you add in the conference schedule (65), the mean rank is 74.

Duke's OOC schedule

13 @ Cal
308 USC Upstate
143 Alabama
25 Vanderbilt
77 @Marquette
159 Xavier
48 Central Michigan
36 Kansas
23 Purdue
26 @Oklahoma
1 UConn
50 Albany
6 @Kentucky
120 Old Dominion

Mean rank is 74 If you add in the conference schedule (61), the mean rank is 67.

If you're curious, Duke gets a bigger boost by playing ND twice than ND does by playing Duke twice. And more significantly, Notre Dame gets BC twice, while Duke gets UNC twice.
 
By comparison, UConn OOC mean rank is 86. If you add the conference schedule (101), the mean rank is 94. But I think UConn's OOC rank is misleading, as it is weighed down by several bad to terrible teams: Hartford (119), Oregon (214), Monmouth (250), St. Bonaventure (181), and UC Davis (189). UConn's schedule is very top-heavy, as their OOC schedule includes: Baylor (2), Duke (4), Stanford (5), Maryland (7), Penn St. (9), and Cal (13). Clearly that many top games would make it the top OOC schedule (despite its rank), but UConn needs a tough OOC schedule in the new conference.
 
teams just need to step up to UConn's level... UConn cant help it that other so-called powerhouses dont live up to everyone's expectations.
 
Fightin Choke said:
Notre Dame's OOC schedule Sagarin ratings

269 UNC Wilmington
20 Michigan State
203 Valparaiso
167 @Penn
52 DePaul
63 Duquesne
9 @Penn State
24 UCLA
41 @Michigan
48 Central Michigan
111 @Oregon State
90 South Dakota State
8 @Tennessee

Mean rank is 85. If you add in the conference schedule (65), the mean rank is 74.

Duke's OOC schedule

13 @ Cal
308 USC Upstate
143 Alabama
25 Vanderbilt
77 @Marquette
159 Xavier
48 Central Michigan
36 Kansas
23 Purdue
26 @Oklahoma
1 UConn
50 Albany
6 @Kentucky
120 Old Dominion

Mean rank is 74 If you add in the conference schedule (61), the mean rank is 67.

If you're curious, Duke gets a bigger boost by playing ND twice than ND does by playing Duke twice. And more significantly, Notre Dame gets BC twice, while Duke gets UNC twice.
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Compare that to Maryland's OOC schedule :rolleyes: After the UCONN game... the next best team they play is South Florida... then probably Howard . They definitely have the easiest conference schedule among the most likely contenders. One game in Durham, one game in Chapel Hell, and they get one game vs ND in College Park. They get two games vs Syracuse, and two games vs Georgia Tech.
 
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The mean sagar in rating is a nice idea, but flawed I'd say. A team that plays the 100 and 150th teams would have a harder schedule than a team playing #1 and 300. If you want to study the top teams, I think a better metric is number of games against the top 50. Or top 100 at worst. Any teams beyond that should be easy easy wins for a top 10 team, so there's little difference between 101 and 300.

Alternatively, I guess an average works if the max value used is 100.
 
vowelguy said:
The mean sagarin rating is a nice idea, but flawed I'd say. A team that plays the 100 and 150th teams would have a harder schedule than a team playing #1 and 300. If you want to study the top teams, I think a better metric is number of games against the top 50. Or top 100 at worst. Any teams beyond that should be easy easy wins for a top 10 team, so there's little difference between 101 and 300.

Alternatively, I guess an average works if the max value used is 100.
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I completely agree that an average ranking is flawed. I was just following the pattern used by fans on other websites (RebKell and Fans Only). Clearly a true SOS would have to have a very steep reward system, greatly valuing top 5 opponents, substantially rewarding opponents ranked 6-10, etc. For a top 25 team, there really is no significant difference in difficulty in facing a team ranked 100 vs. 150 vs. 200 vs. 330, so a cap at 100 seems reasonable when evaluating the schedule difficulty of top 25 teams. Obviously, if we're comparing the schedules of Tennessee St. and Colgate, then you cannot cap the ranking at 100, because for those schools, the difference between rank 101 and 300 is significant.
 
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