ESPN / ACC deal... $17 mil / school

[junglehusky]

Brett McMurphy ‏ @McMurphyCBS
I certainly hope so RT @natedub9: @McMurphyCBS Will this end silly twitter rumors abt FSU and Clemson going to Big 12?


John Ourand ‏ @Ourand_SBJ
Sources: ESPN's new ACC deal comes out to 15 years for $3.6 billion. That comes out to a whopping $17M per school.
Retweeted by Brett McMurphy

9m Brett McMurphy ‏ @McMurphyCBS
ACC/ESPN deal includes right to televise 3 Friday ACC games, inc. commitment from BC & Syracuse to host 1 game on Thanksgiving Friday

13m Keri Potts ‏ @MsPotts_ESPN
ESPN and #ACC extend agreement thru 2027; more hoops & fb games, sponsorship rights: http://es.pn/ACConESPN
Retweeted by Brett McMurphy

 

[john2153]

3 ACC Friday night games on ESPN going forward....interesting...

 

[Dann]

wowowowoowowwowowow.

 

[Dann]

3 ACC Friday night games on ESPN going forward....interesting...

that basically says that the acc games cept for a couple matchups can't compete with the big 4 for saturday times. thats brutal for the 4-14 teams of the acc playing those games, and 1 will be a late game then i think. this also makes me think that espn isn't going to bother with the nbe contract becuase when would they play games? i would think the nbe would have alot of friday night games on espn. not any more...hmm this just makes me wonder more wtf is going on with everything thats happened the last couple days. b12 to add be teams now? and no more nbe or something?

 

[The Funster]

The length of these new deals is interesting. Also interesting to see that Syracuse and BC have to commit to host one Thanksgiving Friday game. ACC will get a ton of exposure.

 

[junglehusky]

It's 3 Friday night ACC games per year. From the press release:

Per the extension, ESPN has the right to televise three Friday ACC football contests annually which will include a standing commitment from Boston College and Syracuse to each host one game as well as an afternoon or evening game on Thanksgiving Friday.

Sounds like they're trying to increase viewership in the northern markets of the ACC footprint.

 

[Fishy]

They're just trying to steal the thunder from the UConn women's SNY coup.

Nice try, Swofford. Nice try.

 

[Dann]

so fsu gets 17mil a year from this for all 3 tiers. is that enough to keep them?

the b12 they would get 20 plus 2 for the csg(or 3), plus its been said that they bring another 2 for adding a big time tv program. plus if clemson or others go they could add value. if the b12 added just clem/fsu for 12 and the ship game there looking at 25+ easy. then u have to figure that fsu tier 3 to themselves is another couple mil on top of that. thats 10+ over the acc all together. is that to enough to move? time will tell...

 

[The Funster]

I would think that if ESPN and the ACC have worked out this extension then, as part of the agreement, FSU and Clemson have agreed to stay. It is my hope hope that these unfounded FSU/Clemson rumors are squashed for good and the internet can get some of the wasted bandwidth back.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Friday night slots are far and away the worst TV slots of the week, so that's nothing to crow about that they get three per year. If anything, it's a knock against the deal. No one is watching sports, or TV in general, at that time.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

so fsu gets 17mil a year from this for all 3 tiers. is that enough to keep them?

the b12 they would get 20 plus 2 for the csg(or 3), plus its been said that they bring another 2 for adding a big time tv program. plus if clemson or others go they could add value. if the b12 added just clem/fsu for 12 and the ship game there looking at 25+ easy. then u have to figure that fsu tier 3 to themselves is another couple mil on top of that. thats 10+ over the acc all together. is that to enough to move? time will tell...

If this was a rumor, I would say that the ACC is basically screwed. FSU could make $10MM a year more leaving, and this agreement adds FIVE more years to the back end, which is a terrible deal for the ACC.

But they issued a press release and make a s*** sandwich sound like caviar. Why would they do that?

 

[junglehusky]

I think this puts a damper on the FSU/B12 rumors, but let's say Dan's speculation is correct and the B12 has a bigger payday lined up by bringing in FSU, Clemson, Louisville and one other (BYU or another BE / ACC team)... with this ACC deal for 14 teams does that make it more or less likely that UConn / Rutgers get the ACC invite?

 

[The Funster]

There will be more fannies in the seats watching HS football on Friday night than watching ACC football on TV.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I think this puts a damper on the FSU/B12 rumors, but let's say Dan's speculation is correct and the B12 has a bigger payday lined up by bringing in FSU, Clemson, Louisville and one other (BYU or another BE / ACC team)... with this ACC deal for 14 teams does that make it more or less likely that UConn / Rutgers get the ACC invite?

Why does it put a damper to those rumors? The ACC is locking in a $4MM per year deficit with the Big 12, that extends out 15 years. PLUS, the ACC deal is likely still tiers 1-3 while the Big 12 deal is just 1 and 2. Texas will make twice as much as FSU on media rights if FSU stays in the ACC.

I don't understand why the ACC is issuing a press release for this. All I can think of is that Swofford dropped arbitration and signed below market if ESPN would agree NOT to help the Big 12 raid the ACC.

 

[The Funster]

I think this puts a damper on the FSU/B12 rumors, but let's say Dan's speculation is correct and the B12 has a bigger payday lined up by bringing in FSU, Clemson, Louisville and one other (BYU or another BE / ACC team)... with this ACC deal for 14 teams does that make it more or less likely that UConn / Rutgers get the ACC invite?

Maybe that huge Big12 payday is a myth. Maybe FSU and Clemson have never considered, or have never been offered, a seat in the Big12. Maybe they really are happy right where they are.

 

[Dann]

Maybe that huge Big12 payday is a myth. Maybe FSU and Clemson have never considered, or have never been offered, a seat in the Big12. Maybe they really are happy right where they are.

clemson announced they made a expansion commit and all that jazz. they atleast looked around.

 

[The Funster]

I'd like to hear what FromTheInside has to say on this deal.

 

[Dann]

Why does it put a damper to those rumors? The ACC is locking in a $4MM per year deficit with the Big 12, that extends out 15 years. PLUS, the ACC deal is likely still tiers 1-3 while the Big 12 deal is just 1 and 2. Texas will make twice as much as FSU on media rights if FSU stays in the ACC.

I don't understand why the ACC is issuing a press release for this. All I can think of is that Swofford dropped arbitration and signed below market if ESPN would agree NOT to help the Big 12 raid the ACC.

so lets say thats true. the acc is all giddy about 17 becuase there going to all sit down and sign gor and fsu/clem are staying. then what does the b12 do now. they need 2 for next year and the 2 or 4 more to get up to sec numbers which it seems they want.

lville/byu/cincy/ruty/usf/uconn???

 

[junglehusky]

Why does it put a damper to those rumors?

You've said (paraphrasing) that if any other conference wanted UConn we would have been invited by now. Would that not also apply to FSU? If not, we would at least be hearing more substantiated reports rather than rumors by now, to get the gears moving before this deal goes down. Maybe the exit fee doesn't go up enough, maybe the ACC won't have GOR, but if there was a fire there we should see more smoke by now.

 

[junglehusky]

so lets say thats true. the acc is all giddy about 17 becuase there going to all sit down and sign gor and fsu/clem are staying. then what does the b12 do now. they need 2 for next year and the 2 or 4 more to get up to sec numbers which it seems they want.

lville/byu/cincy/ruty/usf/uconn???

Maybe the B12 sits tight for a few years. Imagine that.

To be clear... I still reaaaaaly want to get the F out of this bastardized NNBE ASAP. But if UConn has to wait our turn ~5 years for the playoff situation to get situated before the next go-around of relignment, that's fine too.

 

[The Funster]

clemson announced they made a expansion commit and all that jazz. they atleast looked around.

Can you find something that Clemson said officially? Because I can't find anything except rumor and speculation.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

You've said (paraphrasing) that if any other conference wanted UConn we would have been invited by now. Would that not also apply to FSU? If not, we would at least be hearing more substantiated reports rather than rumors by now, to get the gears moving before this deal goes down. Maybe the exit fee doesn't go up enough, maybe the ACC won't have GOR, but if there was a fire there we should see more smoke by now.

The first we heard that Pitt and Syracuse were leaving was a Raleigh radio station a week before they bolted, and no one believed it. The difference between UConn and FSU in this situation is that we have been begging anyone who will listen fro 8 months. That said, I have always stated that the Big 12 is the ONLY league that would take FSU. The SEC and Big 10 are never inviting FSU. I believe the rumors that FSU reached out to the SEC a year ago and was politely declined.

There are two possible reasons for Swofford to drop a $21MM/school ask, plug 5 more years on the deal (which hurts the ACC), and give up Tier 3 rights:

1) ESPN agreed to collude with the ACC not to help the Big 12 to raid the ACC.

2) Swofford knows FSU and Clemson are gone and wants to set a new floor on his TV deal. When FSU and Clemson leave, he can just hold tight at $17MM/year and force ESPN to take him to arbitration or cancel the contract.

This is a bad deal for the ACC, and would be without FSU and Clemson. I don't know why Swofford would agree to this deal at this point unless one of the above is true.

 

[Dann]

Maybe the B12 sits tight for a few years. Imagine that.

To be clear... I still reaaaaaly want to get the F out of this bastardized NNBE ASAP. But if UConn has to wait our turn ~5 years for the playoff situation to get situated before the next go-around of relignment, that's fine too.

i agree with staying put and building in hope of going somewhere one day.

but i dont see the b12 staying put. they need 2 teams to get that ship game. that ship games boosts $$ 2 to 3 mil per team on the spot. schools aren't going to let texas and ok win the league round robin style and leave that $$ from a ship game on the table.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Maybe that huge Big12 payday is a myth. Maybe FSU and Clemson have never considered, or have never been offered, a seat in the Big12. Maybe they really are happy right where they are.

The same sources are running the ACC story that ran the Big 12 story. Were they lying before but are honest now?

It's like you are taking the potential ACC raid personally. Are you a Maryland fan now that Edsall is there?

 

[Dann]

Can you find something that Clemson said officially? Because I can't find anything except rumor and speculation.

its out there somewhere. its not made up.

here 1 blog covering the news of it. if i find more in crossing ill post it 4 u.