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No, what I asked you was whether you could give me an examples of schools profiting off of a player image pre-NIL. Your example was marketing tickets, and televising games. Those things seem part and parcel of being a scholarship athlete, right? In fact, they continue to exist in the NIL era. Your argument that television broadcast are actually a tort which injures student athletes, is, well, let’s call it a unique take.

But now you’re asserting, that schools are somehow using student athletes images to advertise the school “in other ways.” What exactly are these “other ways” that you are imagining?

Regarding your assertion, that schools or the NCAA have somehow impinged upon individuals rights to utilize their own image, you would have to clarify what you mean by that assertion because it feels like you are conflating a few things here. Let me give you a real world example a police officer could get a side job modeling. That would be profiting off their image, right? But most, if not all, police departments prohibit an individual from wearing their uniform for personal commercial ventures. Do you understand the distinction?
I don't think the schools directly profited, but the NCAA did. Madden had to pay theNCAA for player images used in the games and ads for games. Jadaveon Clowney never received a nickle for his garnet and clad college NIL image used in the numerous ads and video games. I have no clue how much, if any, trickled down to SCar from the NCAA treasury. I doubt any was left after administrative costs.
 
Do we all see where this has inevitably led and will continue to lead? It's not pretty. The NCAA has allowed college sports to be up for sale. They never adopt smart and enforceable regulations, they never oversee anything. It's just play for the highest bidder. Another example is the change in transfer rules. The entire Transfer Portal creation was due to the fact that they couldn't fairly apply the hardship exemption rule and wanted to avoid additional litigation or Congressional intervention and just threw their hands up. Just go play for the highest bidder. for your one shot transfer. Why not bring the transfer rule to high schools also with NIL money? 1-2 punch to college athletics that made the NCAA irrelevant overnight. That is actually welcome.
 
college sports to be up for sale. They never adopt smart and enforceable regulations, they couldn't fairly apply the hardship exemption rule and wanted to avoid additional litigation or Congressional intervention and just threw their hands up. Just go play for the highest bidder. for your one shot transfer. Why not bring the transfer rule to high schools also with NIL money? 1-2 punch to college athletics that made the NCAA irrelevant overnight. That is actually welcome.
NCAA as a monopolist lost control of the narrative, then the process and finally the product.

I suspect the super conferences will drive the NCAA to irrelevant interference in non revenue sports at the majority of schools which are non elite in football.

As to high school athletes, transfer has been very, very common for decades.
 
Do we all see where this has inevitably led and will continue to lead? It's not pretty. The NCAA has allowed college sports to be up for sale. They never adopt smart and enforceable regulations, they never oversee anything. It's just play for the highest bidder. Another example is the change in transfer rules. The entire Transfer Portal creation was due to the fact that they couldn't fairly apply the hardship exemption rule and wanted to avoid additional litigation or Congressional intervention and just threw their hands up. Just go play for the highest bidder. for your one shot transfer. Why not bring the transfer rule to high schools also with NIL money? 1-2 punch to college athletics that made the NCAA irrelevant overnight. That is actually welcome.
The NCAA has “allowed” nothing. The Supreme Court forced them to stop being a monopoly that can control individual “labor prices.” They have no ability to control how individual player NIL - Paige, Caitlin, the Cavinders can do with shoe companies, or Bose, or Gatoraid- or even a bench player paid by a local used car lot. Players are free can to do what they want individually.

Let’s talk South Carolina’s team/player NIL deal: isn’t it better that their “minimum wage” is made public? The NCAA can monitor that and make sure it is actually NIL rather than pay for play. We have no clue what most other schools are paying as “minimum wage.”

I favor disclosure of “minimum wage” and the source of the funding by all schools for such deals. Every school is doing it. If not, they will face a lawsuit in the future because the players are entitled to a cut of the school’s merchandizing revenue from Their name, image and likeness.
 
The NCAA has “allowed” nothing. The Supreme Court forced them to stop being a monopoly that can control individual “labor prices.” They have no ability to control how individual player NIL - Paige, Caitlin, the Cavinders can do with shoe companies, or Bose, or Gatoraid- or even a bench player paid by a local used car lot. Players are free can to do what they want individually.

Let’s talk South Carolina’s team/player NIL deal: isn’t it better that their “minimum wage” is made public? The NCAA can monitor that and make sure it is actually NIL rather than pay for play. We have no clue what most other schools are paying as “minimum wage.”

I favor disclosure of “minimum wage” and the source of the funding by all schools for such deals. Every school is doing it. If not, they will face a lawsuit in the future because the players are entitled to a cut of the school’s merchandizing revenue from Their name, image and likeness.
What Supreme Court case are you referring to? I have no problem with NIL and the original design of it. I have a problem with large athletic slush funds as a result of rich alumni contributions that, combined with the transfer portal, will be the end of college sports as you know it. The money is only going to get bigger, the corruption only bigger, and soon you are going to have wholesale legalized purchase of high school players if you don't have that already. As for the NCAA monitoring South Carolina's minimum wage, you are not serious are you?
 
Do we all see where this has inevitably led and will continue to lead? It's not pretty. The NCAA has allowed college sports to be up for sale. They never adopt smart and enforceable regulations, they never oversee anything. It's just play for the highest bidder. Another example is the change in transfer rules. The entire Transfer Portal creation was due to the fact that they couldn't fairly apply the hardship exemption rule and wanted to avoid additional litigation or Congressional intervention and just threw their hands up. Just go play for the highest bidder. for your one shot transfer. Why not bring the transfer rule to high schools also with NIL money? 1-2 punch to college athletics that made the NCAA irrelevant overnight. That is actually welcome.
It will be in High School sports very soon. You will see a kid play football for one HS this Friday night then next Friday play for the team that just beat them and the kid won’t even have to move. Middle School kids will get NIL deals. As soon as parents start suing the States it will happen.
 
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What Supreme Court case are you referring to? I have no problem with NIL and the original design of it. I have a problem with large athletic slush funds as a result of rich alumni contributions that, combined with the transfer portal, will be the end of college sports as you know it. The money is only going to get bigger, the corruption only bigger, and soon you are going to have wholesale legalized purchase of high school players if you don't have that already. As for the NCAA monitoring South Carolina's minimum wage, you are not serious are you?
National Collegiate Athletic Assn. v. Alston, 594 US 2147 (2021).

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-512_gfbh.pdf

And yes, i am completely serious. The NCAA can and does monitor to insure that SCar is using NIL money from commercial sponsors and merchandise sales rather than boosters (which the NCAA can prohibit from making payments to athletes). We went public because we are trying to keep everything "transparent." few others do.
 
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The NCAA has “allowed” nothing. The Supreme Court forced them to stop being a monopoly that can control individual “labor prices.” They have no ability to control how individual player NIL - Paige, Caitlin, the Cavinders can do with shoe companies, or Bose, or Gatoraid- or even a bench player paid by a local used car lot. Players are free can to do what they want individually.

Let’s talk South Carolina’s team/player NIL deal: isn’t it better that their “minimum wage” is made public? The NCAA can monitor that and make sure it is actually NIL rather than pay for play. We have no clue what most other schools are paying as “minimum wage.”

I favor disclosure of “minimum wage” and the source of the funding by all schools for such deals. Every school is doing it. If not, they will face a lawsuit in the future because the players are entitled to a cut of the school’s merchandizing revenue from Their name, image and likeness.
Absolutely. The bureaucracy and leadership of the NCAA have been myopic, obstructionist, and focused really on a misguided effort to retain the status quo.

"While players make no money from March Madness, they can now get paid from endorsement deals following a narrow Supreme Court ruling in 2021. This was after the NCAA blocked players from earning money for years."



"March Madness is big business for the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), when its most anticipated basketball games tip off and sports fanatics scramble to fill out tournament brackets and place bets in office pools. The NCAA typically pulls in about a billion dollars each year in revenue from media rights fees, ticket sales, corporate sponsorships, and a proliferation of television ads anchored around the three-week-long tournament."
 
The bottom line is that basketball is on the cusp of shifting to a professional development system that soccer operates around the world, and which baseball also has maintained for nearly a century. Young kids get scouted to play on youth teams operated by major soccer teams. If they develop, they rise up, and then if they're good enough, they join the main team.

Basketball doesn't really need colleges anymore. They appreciated the system that developed young players without having to provide a single dime in salary or facilities, just reaping the reward from drafting adult and talented players. But with NIL and guaranteed payments to players on major WCBB teams, what's the difference between a farm system and what's developing now?

And how will the NCAA continue to exist when compensation is increasingly in the open? The NCAA is there solely to prevent WCBB from having to pay salaries to players. Will players continue to knuckle under to the NCAA and its restrictions when they're looking at big bucks?

This is the death nell of the college game.
 
The bottom line is that basketball is on the cusp of shifting to a professional development system that soccer operates around the world, and which baseball also has maintained for nearly a century. Young kids get scouted to play on youth teams operated by major soccer teams. If they develop, they rise up, and then if they're good enough, they join the main team.

Basketball doesn't really need colleges anymore. They appreciated the system that developed young players without having to provide a single dime in salary or facilities, just reaping the reward from drafting adult and talented players. But with NIL and guaranteed payments to players on major WCBB teams, what's the difference between a farm system and what's developing now?

And how will the NCAA continue to exist when compensation is increasingly in the open? The NCAA is there solely to prevent WCBB from having to pay salaries to players. Will players continue to knuckle under to the NCAA and its restrictions when they're looking at big bucks?

This is the death nell of the college game.
I disagree.
The NCAA is becoming more successful rather than less successful.
The NCAA also formed a new Constitution in 2022 giving each Division more control over their own rules.
Most athletes want to get an education while being able to play sports.
Female athletes have an even greater need since they have an even shorter window with which to go to school & play sports while still leaving enough time to consider motherhood, raising a family & a career.
There's no other way to combine so many different aspects of growing into adulthood that has become part of attending college, and the success of US Olympians is a reflection of the success of the NCAA sports model.

The NCAA isn't perfect, they've been sued before and have made changes when needed.
They change just like sports rules change, but some fans don't easily accept change.
However the universities represent the forefront of change and will always be able to figure out a way to change with the times for the benefit of society, athletes & most sports, whether the changes are court ordered or not.

 
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National Collegiate Athletic Assn. v. Alston, 594 US 2147 (2021).

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-512_gfbh.pdf

And yes, i am completely serious. The NCAA can and does monitor to insure that SCar is using NIL money from commercial sponsors and merchandise sales rather than boosters (which the NCAA can prohibit from making payments to athletes). We went public because we are trying to keep everything "transparent." few others do.
First of all, that case doesn't say what you think it does. It occurred after the NIL rules was adopted and only involved the regulations the NCAA adopted pursuant to it. Secondly, what about the U. of Miami booster who gave 10 million to the men's and women's basketball teams? What about the boosters all over the country who gave money to the various NIL funds? To say that only commercial sponsors and merchandise sales funds are going into these funds cannot possibly be true. I will test the proposition myself. I will send $ to a random college athletic NIL fund and see if it is returned.
 
NCAA as a monopolist lost control of the narrative, then the process and finally the product.

I suspect the super conferences will drive the NCAA to irrelevant interference in non revenue sports at the majority of schools which are non elite in football.

As to high school athletes, transfer has been very, very common for decades.
In New Jersey, you can't transfer for athletic benefit only. There are often "hardship" applications and issues about residency for athletes for public schools. Often, you will hear of student/athletes living with their coaches.
 
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It will be in High School sports very soon. You will see a kid play football for one HS this Friday night then next Friday play for the team that just beat them and the kid won’t even have to move. Middle School kids will get NIL deals. As soon as parents start suing the States it will happen.
Where does it end? My point guard on my 4th grade rec team wants to change teams because my NIL funding is off this year?
 
First of all, that case doesn't say what you think it does. It occurred after the NIL rules was adopted and only involved the regulations the NCAA adopted pursuant to it. Secondly, what about the U. of Miami booster who gave 10 million to the men's and women's basketball teams? What about the boosters all over the country who gave money to the various NIL funds? To say that only commercial sponsors and merchandise sales funds are going into these funds cannot possibly be true. I will test the proposition myself. I will send $ to a random college athletic NIL fund and see if it is returned.
The NCAA has sanctioned Miami for it’s booster’s activities.

The Supreme Court case broke the NCAAs monopoly that kept players from being paid. That told the NCAA to get out of the way in player incime but left them the power to regulate booster payments. No, it is not directly on point about NIL, but it is on point in cutting NCAA powers drastically.

Send your money to a team that you are a booster of please,
 
The NCAA has sanctioned Miami for it’s booster’s activities.

The Supreme Court case broke the NCAAs monopoly that kept players from being paid
. That told the NCAA to get out of the way in player incime but left them the power to regulate booster payments. No, it is not directly on point about NIL, but it is on point in cutting NCAA powers drastically.

Send your money to a team that you are a booster of please,
There's increasing momentum to address the abusive monopoly power of the NCAA. The extent to which that momentum has been successful I think is debatable. That said the transfer portal, NIL, an ongoing lawsuits do suggest increasing opposition and opposition to the NCAA.

The Supreme Court case limited but did not break the NCAA power to limit payment to players just think of international players under the current situation. If the NCAA Monopoly power were truly broken Lou or Dorka would have the same earnings opportunities as Paige and Azzi. Monopolies are like the infections that players get in their feet or other areas of the body they're corrosive and extremely difficult to eliminate.

15 years from now after the two football super conferences have developed a track record I think we'll be in a better position to evaluate the extent the NCAA has been curtailed as a corrosive influence and monopolist in college athletics.

Unfortunately the power of the NCAA is still imposed in arbitrary, confusing, and exploitative manners on all non-revenue sports Division 2, and the vast majority of division one schools who don't compete at a high level. I'm hopeful but not optimistic that NCAA interference and control will diminish over the next 15 years, particularly on the vast majority of college athletes who are not currently at elite division 1 schools as represented by the schools who will be competing in the two super conferences.

These are the true student athletes who have been marginalized and exploited over the years.

One really has to look at the ongoing and increasing revenues of the NCAA and the types of investigations that the NCAA conducts to conclude that there's both incompetence and exploitation taking place. I'm thinking of some specific cases including the Waco sexual abuse cases that a true trade organization or governing authority would address with competence, speed, and professionalism. I guess whenever I think of Art Briles or Rick Pitino I think of the absolute failure and exploitative Monopoly that is the NCAA.
 
There's increasing momentum to address the abusive monopoly power of the NCAA. The extent to which that momentum has been successful I think is debatable. That said the transfer portal, NIL, an ongoing lawsuits do suggest increasing opposition and opposition to the NCAA.

The Supreme Court case limited but did not break the NCAA power to limit payment to players just think of international players under the current situation. If the NCAA Monopoly power were truly broken Lou or Dorka would have the same earnings opportunities as Paige and Azzi. Monopolies are like the infections that players get in their feet or other areas of the body they're corrosive and extremely difficult to eliminate.

15 years from now after the two football super conferences have developed a track record I think we'll be in a better position to evaluate the extent the NCAA has been curtailed as a corrosive influence and monopolist in college athletics.

Unfortunately the power of the NCAA is still imposed in arbitrary, confusing, and exploitative manners on all non-revenue sports Division 2, and the vast majority of division one schools who don't compete at a high level. I'm hopeful but not optimistic that NCAA interference and control will diminish over the next 15 years, particularly on the vast majority of college athletes who are not currently at elite division 1 schools as represented by the schools who will be competing in the two super conferences.

These are the true student athletes who have been marginalized and exploited over the years.

One really has to look at the ongoing and increasing revenues of the NCAA and the types of investigations that the NCAA conducts to conclude that there's both incompetence and exploitation taking place. I'm thinking of some specific cases including the Waco sexual abuse cases that a true trade organization or governing authority would address with competence, speed, and professionalism. I guess whenever I think of Art Briles or Rick Pitino I think of the absolute failure and exploitative Monopoly that is the NCAA.
The SEC is continuously reviewing the possibility of withdrawing from the NCAA. Of course football and money it generates are the primary conference concerns. I would imagine the BIG Ten is considering withdrawal too It perhaps not as strongly or as vocally. If the two mega conferences both withdraw, the NCAA wild sumoly bbecome irrelevant.

One non-football issue that the SEC feels strongly about is scholarship limitations on no -football sports; particularly baseball and softball. Presently, the limitation to 12 scholarships for teams with approximately 25 players means that most players end up getting only half sholarships. The SEC could probably get the ACC PAC and maybe the Big12 to vote their way but that group of big conferences would still be outvoted by the small schools that want to control their expenditures.

The Power Six pays for smaller conferences to compete with them. Fair or unfair I dunno.
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There's increasing momentum to address the abusive monopoly power of the NCAA. The extent to which that momentum has been successful I think is debatable. That said the transfer portal, NIL, an ongoing lawsuits do suggest increasing opposition and opposition to the NCAA.

The Supreme Court case limited but did not break the NCAA power to limit payment to players just think of international players under the current situation. If the NCAA Monopoly power were truly broken Lou or Dorka would have the same earnings opportunities as Paige and Azzi. Monopolies are like the infections that players get in their feet or other areas of the body they're corrosive and extremely difficult to eliminate.

15 years from now after the two football super conferences have developed a track record I think we'll be in a better position to evaluate the extent the NCAA has been curtailed as a corrosive influence and monopolist in college athletics.

Unfortunately the power of the NCAA is still imposed in arbitrary, confusing, and exploitative manners on all non-revenue sports Division 2, and the vast majority of division one schools who don't compete at a high level. I'm hopeful but not optimistic that NCAA interference and control will diminish over the next 15 years, particularly on the vast majority of college athletes who are not currently at elite division 1 schools as represented by the schools who will be competing in the two super conferences.

These are the true student athletes who have been marginalized and exploited over the years.

One really has to look at the ongoing and increasing revenues of the NCAA and the types of investigations that the NCAA conducts to conclude that there's both incompetence and exploitation taking place. I'm thinking of some specific cases including the Waco sexual abuse cases that a true trade organization or governing authority would address with competence, speed, and professionalism. I guess whenever I think of Art Briles or Rick Pitino I think of the absolute failure and exploitative Monopoly that is the NCAA.
Women's basketball just doesn't need the NCAA anymore. With money coming in legally, the raison d'etre of the NCAA, to keep money out, is gone. It's fighting a battle it's already lost.

Better to let young women sign with professional teams that train them property and funnel them into top pro leagues, rather than deal with the NCAA's BS.

That is the system in Europe, and has been for years.
 
Women's basketball just doesn't need the NCAA anymore. With money coming in legally, the raison d'etre of the NCAA, to keep money out, is gone. It's fighting a battle it's already lost.

Better to let young women sign with professional teams that train them property and funnel them into top pro leagues, rather than deal with the NCAA's BS.

That is the system in Europe, and has been for years.
The NCAA opened the barn doors and then decided they wanted to regulate how fast the horses run out.
 
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Women's basketball just doesn't need the NCAA anymore. With money coming in legally, the raison d'etre of the NCAA, to keep money out, is gone. It's fighting a battle it's already lost.

Better to let young women sign with professional teams that train them property and funnel them into top pro leagues, rather than deal with the NCAA's BS.

That is the system in Europe, and has been for years.
None of the athletes who are forced to enroll in college prior to a professional career need the NCAA. I'd go a step farther and say no athlete in college needs the NCAA as whatever mission the bureaucrats of the NCAA articulate they fail to achieve and fail miserably.

NCAA a monopoly? | Department of Economics

"I teach an Economics of Sports class here at Iowa State University. In my class, we discuss the economic structure of the NCAA and professional sports leagues in the U.S. You are correct that the NCAA is a cartel and so is a professional sports league."

"The ability to influence or have some control over the terms of trade in selling is referred to as ‘monopoly power’ and in buying it is referred to as ‘monopsony power’. The NCAA generates approximately $1 billion in revenue annually. Most of that revenue comes from their ‘monopoly’ power to sell broadcast rights to the NCAA post-season basketball tournament."

Monopolies, cartels, trade organizations, whatever term you wish to apply to the NCAA and like organizations they have one goal in mind and that is to benefit the organization at the expense of the consumers, workers, suppliers, and society at large.
 
The NCAA has sanctioned Miami for it’s booster’s activities.

The Supreme Court case broke the NCAAs monopoly that kept players from being paid. That told the NCAA to get out of the way in player incime but left them the power to regulate booster payments. No, it is not directly on point about NIL, but it is on point in cutting NCAA powers drastically.

Send your money to a team that you are a booster of please,
Once again, the case which I just read in full didn't break the monopoly and force compensation. It held that their current methods of restricting and dictating compensation which they previously adopted were in restraint of trade. This case came after compensation was allowed. It also invalidated the NCAA's policy of not allowing graduate education to be offered to induce an athlete to attend which tells you everything about the NCAA. The problem is that once you combine the compensation window called NIL with the transfer portal, you are basically allowing solicitation and a form of corruption. You will also see the emergence of super conferences and the death of parity. "I'll get you $500,000.00 if you come here", whether spoken by a coach in violation of the rules or a booster or a friend of a friend of a player invites veniality.
 
The SEC is continuously reviewing the possibility of withdrawing from the NCAA. Of course football and money it generates are the primary conference concerns. I would imagine the BIG Ten is considering withdrawal too It perhaps not as strongly or as vocally. If the two mega conferences both withdraw, the NCAA wild sumoly bbecome irrelevant.

One non-football issue that the SEC feels strongly about is scholarship limitations on no -football sports; particularly baseball and softball. Presently, the limitation to 12 scholarships for teams with approximately 25 players means that most players end up getting only half sholarships. The SEC could probably get the ACC PAC and maybe the Big12 to vote their way but that group of big conferences would still be outvoted by the small schools that want to control their expenditures.

The Power Six pays for smaller conferences to compete with them. Fair or unfair I dunno.
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Does SC publish the amount it pays to athletes to come there from the transfer portal? Wouldn't that be truly transparent as opposed to just letting the NCAA monitor that they spend money from merchandise sales and commercial sponsors? So a booster's million dollars can't be spent but a "commercial sponsor's" can? Who are the SC commercial sponsors? Is a list available? This is all subterfuge. It's buying players and will be the demise of college sports.
 
In New Jersey, you can't transfer for athletic benefit only. There are often "hardship" applications and issues about residency for athletes for public schools. Often, you will hear of student/athletes living with their coaches.
Not openly, athletes start playing for a public HS as a freshman has a good year next season playing for a private or parochial school. Bob Hurley SR at ST Anthony's had players brought in from all over the NY metropolitan area for example.
 
Not openly, athletes start playing for a public HS as a freshman has a good year next season playing for a private or parochial school. Bob Hurley SR at ST Anthony's had players brought in from all over the NY metropolitan area for example.
Yes he did. Several New York City players, same was true for St. Patrick's under Kevin Boyle.
 
Yes he did. Several New York City players, same was true for St. Patrick's under Kevin Boyle.
In Arizona players at the high school level can transfer public to public, public to private, private to public or to the emerging phenomenon of sports schools.

While it's primarily football and basketball it does happen with all sports at least here in Arizona.

For example the number one ranked quarterback in the 2024 class who just decommitted from Ohio State may be on his third high school. While the article below indicates as a junior he played for Chandler High School I believe he's transferred to Pinnacle for his senior year.



It's hard to call one team No. 1 and another No. 2 in Arizona when both are among the top 10 teams in the nation.

But that's what Arizona has gotten itself into with the rapid growth of boys prep basketball academies as it has broken through big on the national scene
 
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In Arizona players at the high school level can transfer public to public, public to private, private to public or to the emerging phenomenon of sports schools.

While it's primarily football and basketball it does happen with all sports at least here in Arizona.

For example the number one ranked quarterback in the 2024 class who just decommitted from Ohio State may be on his third high school. While the article below indicates as a junior he played for Chandler High School I believe he's transferred to Pinnacle for his senior year.



It's hard to call one team No. 1 and another No. 2 in Arizona when both are among the top 10 teams in the nation.

But that's what Arizona has gotten itself into with the rapid growth of boys prep basketball academies as it has broken through big on the national scene
When New Jersey had Bob Hurley Sr. at St Anthony and Kevin Boyle at St. pat's the winner of that game was almost always #1 in New Jersey and sometimes #1 in the country. When St. Pat's was #1 and had Kid Gilcrist and St. Anthony was #2 and has Abdel Anderson, they played in the State semis. I saw the game. St. Anthony won on an incredible out of bounds play by Hurley. and went on to be #1 in the USA.
 
Does SC publish the amount it pays to athletes to come there from the transfer portal? Wouldn't that be truly transparent as opposed to just letting the NCAA monitor that they spend money from merchandise sales and commercial sponsors? So a booster's million dollars can't be spent but a "commercial sponsor's" can? Who are the SC commercial sponsors? Is a list available? This is all subterfuge. It's buying players and will be the demise of college sports.
SCar pays wbb players 25,000 per year. No signing bonuses for transfers. PERIOD. That money comes from a share of merchandising player jerseys, posters, programs with players photos, team photo ops etc. - all transparent.

The individual player NIL deals are not transparent unless the player chooses to disclose. Some have. Some haven’t .

Our 14th player (originally a walk-in from SC) gets paid for an ad she does for her hometown car dealer. Is the owner a booster?. Probably. But she does do the ad and is entitled to be paid. It’s a private deal that the school has nothing to do with. Will our three present home state players have similar opportunities ( and hopefully Joyce Edwards in the future) . Yes. Is it permissible? Yes. As long as the school is not involved in the deal.

Is Paige getting a share of her jersey sales licensed by UConn? Is she getting NIL from corporations? Can she do an ad for a business in Minnesota or Stoors (if they can afford her) We all know the answer. We just don’t know how much she got from UConn merchandising. Non transparent.

Boston got 25,000 from SCar’s merchandising collective. The same as every one of her teammates.That’s transparent. The money from her individual deals is non-transparent - like Paige’s.

So, what does UConn pay?
 
SCar pays wbb players 25,000 per year. No signing bonuses for transfers. PERIOD. That money comes from a share of merchandising player jerseys, posters, programs with players photos, team photo ops etc. - all transparent.

The individual player NIL deals are not transparent unless the player chooses to disclose. Some have. Some haven’t .

Our 14th player (originally a walk-in from SC) gets paid for an ad she does for her hometown car dealer. Is the owner a booster?. Probably. But she does do the ad and is entitled to be paid. It’s a private deal that the school has nothing to do with. Will our three present home state players have similar opportunities ( and hopefully Joyce Edwards in the future) . Yes. Is it permissible? Yes. As long as the school is not involved in the deal.

Is Paige getting a share of her jersey sales licensed by UConn? Is she getting NIL from corporations? Can she do an ad for a business in Minnesota or Stoors (if they can afford her) We all know the answer. We just don’t know how much she got from UConn merchandising. Non transparent.

Boston got 25,000 from SCar’s merchandising collective. The same as every one of her teammates.That’s transparent. The money from her individual deals is non-transparent - like Paige’s.

So, what does UConn pay?
This isn't about NIL money. Don't try to change the conversation. I made it clear that I had no problem with a player benefitting from NIL which was long overdue. The issue I have is the transfer "bonuses" or enrollment "bonuses" disguised as NIL. They are not stated to be transfer bonuses but if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck.... If you don't think that is happening full fledged in college basketball right now you are dreaming. Do you think the transferring members of the NC championship team from LSU went there for the coach or the "love of the game"? The transfer portal/ NIL two punch combination is the issue and it will never be made transparent unless there is a scandal just like "Sneakergate". If a player in the portal starts talking NIL money, the coach or assistant says I can't have this conversation but soon thereafter a "friend of the program" makes a call to that player and there is a large NIL payment promised upon transfer. That's the soft underbelly of the system now. We welcomed outside money into the amateur athletic structure. With money comes venality. Commercial or improperly labelled booster money becomes the price paid for a transfer. The NCAA will do zero about it. They can't even train and choose competent referees.
 
This isn't about NIL money. Don't try to change the conversation. I made it clear that I had no problem with a player benefitting from NIL which was long overdue. The issue I have is the transfer "bonuses" or enrollment "bonuses" disguised as NIL. They are not stated to be transfer bonuses but if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck.... If you don't think that is happening full fledged in college basketball right now you are dreaming. Do you think the transferring members of the NC championship team from LSU went there for the coach or the "love of the game"? The transfer portal/ NIL two punch combination is the issue and it will never be made transparent unless there is a scandal just like "Sneakergate". If a player in the portal starts talking NIL money, the coach or assistant says I can't have this conversation but soon thereafter a "friend of the program" makes a call to that player and there is a large NIL payment promised upon transfer. That's the soft underbelly of the system now. We welcomed outside money into the amateur athletic structure. With money comes venality. Commercial or improperly labelled booster money becomes the price paid for a transfer. The NCAA will do zero about it. They can't even train and choose competent referees.
I did not change the conversation. My first statement clearly stated: " SCar pays wbb players 25,000 per year. No signing bonuses for transfers. PERIOD." I then discussed the transparency of our $25,000 NIL collective.

Wanna' find something potentially insidious about us to worry about or to blame IF we get a top rated transfer to one of the best wbb programs in the country?

Here ya' go. Klutch Sports represents wbb players in finding NIL opportunities. It even represents high schoolers before they commit to a college. The WBB division is headed by Jade Li English. She is a former Gamecock track athlete and daughter of Gamecock homegrown basketball legend, Alex English, who is now a member of schools board of trustees.

Yeah, Jade Li represents 2023 Number 1 recruit, Judea Watkins. We were one of three finalists for her (unfortunately she chose the wrong SC:( ). So, did a Southeastern school only have a shot at that Cali prospect only because of her agent? Perhaps Jade Li can offer transferees private NIL opportunities.

But I'll ask you. What "transfer 'bonuses' 0r enrollment 'bonuses' disguised as NIL" does LSU offer? Or UConn? Or Notre Dame? Or Stanford? Can you answer the question about any school? Let's say that's why I took exception to your post singling out SCar. Can you point to ANY school (other than Miami) and say: They (or their alums) do or do not pay signing "bonuses?"
 

An athletic booster is offering one million dollars for SU athletics and an additional million for basketball recruits. Here's a quote from the article:
"Syracuse, N.Y. — Adam Weitsman, Syracuse University’s most high-profile athletics booster, says he will put more than $1 million in the pockets of SU athletes and is offering at least $1 million more to top basketball recruits."
 
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