2021 Recruiting: El Ellis

[husky429]

hurley said AJ will be a PG in the nba so i dont see why he cant start at SG as a sophomore. he isn't a "shooter" but he already posses the other elite guard skills i.e. passing/ball handling/playmaking and we'd have good enough shooters surrounding him. as a versatile combo forward i think Martin would primarily play the 3 and get more minutes at the 4 than the 2

it will be hard for any freshman to crack a 2021 starting lineup of: Cole/Jackson/Martin/Akok/Sanogo

i can't believe how big that lineup is, so good defensively

That lineup gets our A kicked if the other team presses. Nowhere near enough shooting either. Jackson isn't good enough as a shooter or ballhandler to play the 2 yet.

 

[gtcam]

Not picking on your reply but this whole narrative that Louisville is the dirtiest program in college is laughable. Nike funnels money to flagships in Duke, UK and UNC, lesser programs like Oregon (Phil Knight), LSU, Zona get their cut and all is good. LSU and Zona have head coaches on wire tap, UNC gave out fake degrees, rape on campus at MSU but because we had strippers in a dorm and then Adidas tries to pull a Nike with a recruit we are the face of dirty tactics?

That is laughable, Hell we fired our whole damn administration while these other clowns roam sidelines. You think Zion got paid? Who in the Hell does Louisville get that raises flags? We rarely get 5 star McD's AA. We play in the best arena in college, the best basketball conference and have a rabid fanbase. But yet we rely on 4 star talent and guys like Hancock, Russ Smith, Harrell, Peyton Siva to win with. Pretty laughable really, did you realize that we have been on Ellis longer than anyone? That his coach is from Louisville? How about that he is friends with Pettiford another recruit. I seem to remember Calhoun got his share back in the day and leaving us in the dust while Crum was here. Was he clean? Your only disadvantage now is your conference and the P5 landscape. Not us cheating while we are already going at the NCAA.

The ACC is no longer the best conference and the NBE, top to bottom is much stronger
P5 is starting to show cracks and will implode soon
When Crum was with Lville, I loved the program
Pitino is a pure scumbag
The Lville "booster club" and "angels" are some of the scummiest - Mack is a good coach but has no balls to tell these folks to get lost - it will bite him on the arse soon
Go cry somewhere else - take Ellis - Dan Hurley will get better players - Lville is dirty and isn't going to get clean with those people paying for the program

 

[bendm]

That lineup gets our A kicked if the other team presses. Nowhere near enough shooting either. Jackson isn't good enough as a shooter or ballhandler to play the 2 yet.

4 of those guys are locks to start (cole/jackson/akok/sanogo) so what if we swapped in Gaffney for Martin:
Cole/Gaffney/Jackson/Akok/Sanogo

unless we get Keels (not holding my breath) i dont think Blakes/Riley is the answer as a frosh...

 

[olehead]

Not picking on your reply but this whole narrative that Louisville is the dirtiest program in college is laughable. Nike funnels money to flagships in Duke, UK and UNC, lesser programs like Oregon (Phil Knight), LSU, Zona get their cut and all is good. LSU and Zona have head coaches on wire tap, UNC gave out fake degrees, rape on campus at MSU but because we had strippers in a dorm and then Adidas tries to pull a Nike with a recruit we are the face of dirty tactics?

That is laughable, Hell we fired our whole damn administration while these other clowns roam sidelines. You think Zion got paid? Who in the Hell does Louisville get that raises flags? We rarely get 5 star McD's AA. We play in the best arena in college, the best basketball conference and have a rabid fanbase. But yet we rely on 4 star talent and guys like Hancock, Russ Smith, Harrell, Peyton Siva to win with. Pretty laughable really, did you realize that we have been on Ellis longer than anyone? That his coach is from Louisville? How about that he is friends with Pettiford another recruit. I seem to remember Calhoun got his share back in the day and leaving us in the dust while Crum was here. Was he clean? Your only disadvantage now is your conference and the P5 landscape. Not us cheating while we are already going at the NCAA.

Tough response w/ decent points. Three points of contention.

One, you cherry-picked the greatest 3 star ever in the program in Russ Smith in getting you thru those lean years. Two, you get 5 stars and load up on guys that are what used to be referred to as 4-plus (definition maybe likely college starter) star recruits. Three, you are the image of head in sand.

As present, the Ville's image is sleazy but winnin, so who cares. You guys make the news annually for grimy ish, name the year, any hoop fan can come up with a grimy 'Ville image for that year. Watch: 2003, Karen & Slick Rick humpgate Let's see.. oh, 2014 - Petrino, oops wrong sport, 2015 - hookergate, 2016 and 17 - Sneakergate involving the FBI, yes the FBI! Now c'mon you can't understand why we come at you? Not a little bit?

 

[HooperScooper]

Sorry guys i had bum info... i usually wait closer to the announcement just because of this grain of salt Stop. Ha

Recruiting is fluid.

 

[husky99]

Recruiting is fluid.

And always take it with a grain if salt...

 

[CL82]

Yeah I don't really care if he makes them, I just want him to take enough that the defense has to guard him. So basically Akok

With a better handle and great moves to the rim.

 

[JimHurley]

That lineup gets our A kicked if the other team presses. Nowhere near enough shooting either. Jackson isn't good enough as a shooter or ballhandler to play the 2 yet.

Who do you think the 5th starter would be? I think it’s pretty safe to say Cole, Jackson, Akok, and Sanogo will be starting.

 

[husky429]

Who do you think the 5th starter would be? I think it’s pretty safe to say Cole, Jackson, Akok, and Sanogo will be starting.

Second ballhandler. Maybe a talented freshman, or Gaffney/Adams. I have watched more than enough of Andre play from AAU and his HS season to know he is not gonna play as the second guard yet. More to do with defense than offense... but his ballhandling isn't quite there yet.. flashy but not fundamentally sound.. close though. His creativity passing and ballhandling makes him (imo) a high potential nba prospect

 

[UconnU]

Can Martin play SG?

Absolutely not, he’s like an undersized(but really tough) combo forward.

I also expect BA to at least contemplate moving down a level for his senior year. We need guards for 21, multiple of them.

 

[Kenny11]

Absolutely not, he’s like an undersized(but really tough) combo forward.

I also expect BA to at least contemplate moving down a level for his senior year. We need guards for 21, multiple of them.

I don’t really love BA’s game but I think it’s safe to say he’s going to improve every year. He works his butt off and he also seems to be Hurley’s favorite.

 

[JimHurley]

Second ballhandler. Maybe a talented freshman, or Gaffney/Adams. I have watched more than enough of Andre play from AAU and his HS season to know he is not gonna play as the second guard yet. More to do with defense than offense... but his ballhandling isn't quite there yet.. flashy but not fundamentally sound.. close though. His creativity passing and ballhandling makes him (imo) a high potential nba prospect

Only thing is a Cole/Gaffney back court would be pretty bad defensively. Although that would give us a real Hurley-type lineup with 2 ball handlers and then the big guard in Jackson at the 3.

Absolutely not, he’s like an undersized(but really tough) combo forward.

I also expect BA to at least contemplate moving down a level for his senior year. We need guards for 21, multiple of them.

I can't see him starting then. Jackson and Akok may very well be the two most talented players on the roster and I think they'll lock up the 3 and 4 positions. Martin will still see good minutes, but will likely be a sixth man in that case.

 

[MDHuskFan]

Serious question....Can anyone explain to me why a rising sophomore, continually improving who was 6th on the team in MPG & PPG, while also a coaches favorite would look to transfer from a likely tournament team to a lesser team at the end of his JR season?

 

[MDHuskFan]

Also, Louisville isn’t the only sketchy team, but they bought hookers & paid 100k for Brian Bowen. It’s not just a hooker thing. If you’re on probation and do dumb things, you get dumb prizes. Lvilles is the reputation they have to live with. They are borderline the definition of what the NCAA calls, lack of institutional control.

 

[Mooch82]

Serious question....Can anyone explain to me why a rising sophomore, continually improving who was 6th on the team in MPG & PPG, while also a coaches favorite would look to transfer from a likely tournament team to a lesser team at the end of his JR season?

BA is a rising junior, but I agree. He’s not a guy that you ideally want starting, but he’s a great glue guy/team player as a 7th or 8th man. Not sure exactly why he would leave unless he wants to get 30 mpg, and I really don’t want him to. Real solid piece for us.

 

[formerlurker]

We should lock this thread. You're either with us or we should move on.