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Edsall: “Today’s Players Aren’t As Mentally Tough”- Gets Mocked By Local & National Media

Travelman32 said:
Part of his issue is he just lacks tact. This could have been said differently and it would not have generated as much controversy. Had he said that there are more distractions these days, while obvious, would not have gotten the negative push back he is getting now.
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I hear you, but much of his issue is his record this time. JC railed against everything and everybody...and I am not sure tact and Calhoun were ever used in the same sentence...but he won natty’s
 
Just saw the video. If you actually watch the 5-10 minutes he talks about what happened regarding the kids skipping class and his expectations, its admirable in my mind. It's also something that wouldn't be repeated by what, 75% of FBS coaches out there? 95%? Making kids do bear crawls because they skipped a class? If an SEC coach saw this they'd bust out laughing like a hyena.

I mean if I'm a parent who isn't filled with the delusion about the only thing mattering being my son making the NFL, I would absolutely love what he said and that's the type of coach I would want to send my son to for 4-5 years.

Agree that he may not be a great wordsmith but his heart is in the right place.

The irony of him killing twitter because of all the me vs. you it creates and now he's being ripped and ridiculed on twitter.

And yes, some of the things he does during games can be maddening, but this is separate from what goes on during the game. Just my opinion.
 
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I agree folks should watch the press conference. I have no issue with what Randy said or his approach to teaching kids life lessons. I don't agree the part about it being generational. Mentally tough / mentally soft kids have been a part of every generation. I am hoping that him calling out the players will help some of the younger, more mentally tougher kids to emerge as leaders as they get to be upper classmen.
 
Its simple, if we weren't 5-20 under the Edsall 2.0 tenure this would be a non story. Compound this point with this age and the fact he has refer to this "difference" several times before and you start to become concerned.
 
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I just watched what he said. it was totally taken out of context in the original tweet. What he said made sense. It was about taking responsibility for yourself.
 
Bomber36 said:
I just watched what he said. it was totally taken out of context in the original tweet. What he said made sense. It was about taking responsibility for yourself.
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It's like getting thrown out of a B league SW basketball game for threatening a ref when all you were trying to do was have him take some accountability! ;)
 
My God Randy is even more clueless on how to relate to young adults in 2019 than I actually believed. People need to stop romanticizing what he did in the past, the pinnacle being a 9 win season, and come to grips with the fact that he is hilariously ill equipped to be a HC in this day and age. People who post that it could actually get worse if they fire Randy, I say how? Worse than losing every flipping game by 3-4 touchdowns except against FCS Schools or teams like Houston that have essentially punted on their season. Dude is headed for a 1 or 2 win season tops. What do you have to lose by moving on?
 
Bomber36 said:
I just watched what he said. it was totally taken out of context in the original tweet. What he said made sense. It was about taking responsibility for yourself.
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Yet Randy doesn’t take any responsibility for himself.

It’s almost like he’s a big ol’ (emphasis on ol’) hypocrite.
 
So I listened to the whole press conference, and I don't know how a UConn fan can listen to that and feels good.

I didn't hear any optimism...I just heard a lot of excuses. And he freely admits he isn't going to change. He says kids are different, but he isn't going to change. If I told my employer that I wasn't going to evolve and develop, but I was going to always do things the way I have done, I would be put out to pasture. I am a different leader today than I was 20 years ago...and that's out of necessity. Yes...people who work for me have changed...and guess what....I changed with them.

Randy is old school to a fault. Not a bad guy...but really really old school. I would have felt better if Randy had given any indication that he has adjusted his approach to adapt to kids today. But....he freely states he won't change and they need to change for him. Sounds like a tougher road to take. And lots and lots of excuses.

Lastly....he doesn't sound happy. I don't know why he stays in the job....he sounds miserable.
 
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ShakyTheMohel said:
Lastly....he doesn't sound happy...he sounds miserable.
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Really wouldn't you be miserable? This whole rebuild has been one continuing colonoscopy
 
One of the players must have done a fortnite dance at practice yesterday and it really set him off
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
Lastly....he doesn't sound happy. I don't know why he stays in the job....he sounds miserable.
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12/2 is coming and the five remaining games might be influential on what happens next.
 
Exit 4 said:
I should watch the tape tonight, that would be fair.

Thus far this rebuild has been a tough slog and any comments about generational issues just screams red flag that the coach has aged out of the game. Come on, there are 129 other programs working with the same pool of kids. At the end of the day, all the coaches have that same challenge (fortnite/social media/portal), so they are on equal footing in that regard. Thing is, seems to be more of a handicap for Randy than other coaches who seem to "get it" via the results on the field and the faster program turnarounds.
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To be fair we’re probably not closely following the pressers of other programs. We don’t really know what they’re saying. I agree that he sounds like aged steak when he speaks like this but I’m sure other college programs that are in the midst of a challenging period/season are saying things that are tinted with frustration.

Heck Jeremy Pruitt of the Vols was getting bashed for gently grabbing the QB’s face mask because he fumbled at the goal line against Bama.
 
Watch Sabans presser this week. Maybe listen in at 6:30 mark. In fairness, his reporters seem to focus on football.
 
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Drew said:
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I would gladly travel and pay to watch an Amish football team. Probably wouldn't be all that fast, but those dudes are strong as hell.
 
As much as I admire Randy Edsall, I question whether he is as mentally tough now as when he was here the the first time.
 
storrsroars said:
I would gladly travel and pay to watch an Amish football team. Probably wouldn't be all that fast, but those dudes are strong as hell.
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"Stay down English!"
 
I’m ok challenging mental toughness, character and commitment. Not ok with blaming kids for lack of physical talent. That’s on the coach for bringing them in. Randy did the former. The meathead AD did the later. Perhaps both need a bit of self awareness in recognizing that their words matter and should be chosen with more care.
 
First rule of college coaching...NEVER blame the players. RE has used them as human shields during these past two seasons.
I need to see the IMPROVEMENT over the past two and a half years and if there is none, well then it's either you didn't recruit well enough or you didn't develop well enough. We are on strength coach #2, so there is a clue and OC #3.
Now we have turned to an inexperienced staff ( at some critical positions) to save salary and with it come further limitations in development of talent.
Secondly, the other 129 FBS schools are pulling from the same talent pool. Therefore, quit whining and get back to work.
Thirdly, PLEASE cut out the trips to the way back machine. Don't need to hear how these guys aren't Donald Brown! WE KNOW THAT! Orlovsky ain't walking in that door! Hire an experienced QB coach (like you had way back then) and coach these young QBs up!
This HC and AD might be the absolute worst in getting their message across and inspiring the fan base. No idea how or when to use the media.
It's tough enough to bleed blue without these guys making a funk of the entire deal.
 
Anyone who has been in teaching a long time can tell you the kids today are far different than the kids of the 1970’s. And mostly not in a good way.

I don’t blame the kids today. Blame lies with the parents and our society.
 
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He couldn't see that players are different from over a decade ago? I thought he was coaching somewhere through all that. Maryland and the like. Then why did he take the job? Because of the guilt he felt from the way he left? Sorry Randy.. Times change and you have to also. Your former era is gone. Get over it.
 
I'm not a RE fan, but he is 100% correct here - but it's not about gaming and social media - but it is about facing adversity and wanting to compete and win.

The kids I coached in college we exactly like he described. I was an asked to be an assistant by the head man and players were just clueless. I asked them what did they want out of their year before the season and not one kid, NOT one said win games. They said have fun. We had guys more concerned about where we were eating after away games than the damn game itself.

Reality is that the staff there did a piss poor job recruiting and establishing a culture. Plus there wasn't enough talent to sit guys and compete so the players know that they have you by the balls. What are you going to do sit the best guys because they are screw offs - It is a miserable situation for a coach to be in - I couldn't do it any longer. I also realize that it was up to me to find a way to get these guys to change, but at some point you need to have guys that care as much as the staff does so you're coaching sets, technique, skills and not constantly encouraging guys to give effort in practice. It's next to impossible to get guys to care about outcomes, they either care or they don't.

I came home everyday and wanted to kick the dog it was absolutely horrible.
 
Northbound said:
I'm not a RE fan, but he is 100% correct here - but it's not about gaming and social media - but it is about facing adversity and wanting to compete and win.

The kids I coached in college we exactly like he described. I was an asked to be an assistant by the head man and players were just clueless. I asked them what did they want out of their year before the season and not one kid, NOT one said win games. They said have fun. We had guys more concerned about where we were eating after away games than the damn game itself.

Reality is that the staff there did a piss poor job recruiting and establishing a culture. Plus there wasn't enough talent to sit guys and compete so the players know that they have you by the balls. What are you going to do sit the best guys because they are screw offs - It is a miserable situation for a coach to be in - I couldn't do it any longer. I also realize that it was up to me to find a way to get these guys to change, but at some point you need to have guys that care as much as the staff does so you're coaching sets, technique, skills and not constantly encouraging guys to give effort in practice. It's next to impossible to get guys to care about outcomes, they either care or they don't.

I came home everyday and wanted to kick the dog it was absolutely horrible.
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Cool how about you recruit better kids or kids who cared about winning more. RE is stupid here. Nick Saban wouldn't even go this far. But sure keep defending a loser.
 
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