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husky91 said:
I agree, Rutty is having a good day, even though they will be a doormat.
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"I agree, Rutty is having a good day, even though they will (CONTINUE TO) be a doormat."
 
Now Rutgers Football twitter (no idea who that is) claims he is hearing that UConn and Acc are talking. Why can't I hear that?
 
Well, the Chicago Tribune is quoting Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbick as saying he's not surprised by maryland to the B10 just by the timing of it. That's a pretty good source.
 
If this Maryland/Rutgers thing happens, logic only dictates UConn would be the replacement. I don't think it's realistic that the ACC stays with an odd number of football teams. So they have to take someone. The only possible options seem like UConn and Louisville. And Louisville does not fit the academic profile of the ACC. I have no insider source, but I'd be shocked if it was not UConn. I don't see anyone else making sense.
 
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MattMang23 said:
You mean that a conference commissioner would/should know he has teams leaving his league before ESPN reports it as a done deal? Mr. Marinatto begs to differ.
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Well, at risk of defending Marinatto, if Maryland and Rutgers bolt for the Big10 and kick off a new wave of realignment even while we have brought on board arguably the league's most competent leader of all time (Aresco), then it just goes to show that leadership has little to do with it. Money seems to have a lot to do with it, though...
 
I like the way Notre Dame has only been in the ACC for 2 months, yet they all ready seem to be have appointed theirselves spokeman for the conference. "Well you, know, we kind of expected Maryland to leave, but we're just disappointed in the timing. Actually, we were going to suggest they leave." It didn't take long for there to be negative repercussions to making a deal with the devil. There are all ready teams leaving.
 
lv99 said:
I like the way Notre Dame has only been in the ACC for 2 months, yet they all ready seem to be have appointed theirselves spokeman for the conference. "Well you, know, we kind of expected Maryland to leave, but we're just disappointed in the timing. Actually, we were going to suggest they leave." It didn't take long for there to be negative repercussions to making a deal with the devil. There are all ready teams leaving.
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I have not been involved in any ACC talks. I am not surprised that Maryland is leaving. They voted against increasing the exit fee. If you are Maryland the only reason to do that would be.... because you are either exiting or trying to exit.
 
Here I go again.- starting to dream about the ACC again. The same ACC that has broken my heart twice by gutting my conference and leaving me with the rubble. I don't want the B10, they have Michigan and OState and everyone else is 2nd fiddle. This will be the case forever and I don't see it changing now that Penn State has fallen.

I also have no interest in travelling west (and or North) for games. I want to go South and travel to NC and Florida. I want to play my old friends Syr, BC, Pitt and ND. I want to play basketball against Dook and UNC!

Crap, now I'm getting excited...again. Double crap.
 
RMoore1999 said:
"I agree, Rutty is having a good day, even though they will (CONTINUE TO) be a doormat."
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Yes, because being 9-1, and 5-0 in conference in first place in the league and ranked in the top 20 is the definition of being a doormat.
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Rondogg said:
Here I go again.- starting to dream about the ACC again. The same ACC that has broken my heart twice by gutting my conference and leaving me with the rubble. I don't want the B10, they have Michigan and OState and everyone else is 2nd fiddle. This will be the case forever and I don't see it changing now that Penn State has fallen.

I also have no interest in travelling west (and or North) for games. I want to go South and travel to NC and Florida. I want to play my old friends Syr, BC, Pitt and ND. I want to play basketball against Dook and UNC!

Crap, now I'm getting excited...again. Double crap.
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I will gladly go to the first conf that invites uconn. South north west heck I'd go east to Germany again at this point if that meant we played in a conf comprised of peer universities
 
The thing that has me slightly less excited about the ACC now is that Rutgers and Maryland won't be there. For football, those would be two schools in driving distance where it would be fun to go with one of Phalen's bus tailgates. Without them there's still Cuse and BC, but Pitt is too far to drive... so we'd potentially go from two drivable road games a year to one. Not a deciding factor of course... just an observation.
 
UConnDan97 said:
Well, at risk of defending Marinatto, if Maryland and Rutgers bolt for the Big10 and kick off a new wave of realignment even while we have brought on board arguably the league's most competent leader of all time (Aresco), then it just goes to show that leadership has little to do with it. Money seems to have a lot to do with it, though...
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Sadly, Aresco came along too late. He didn't have much to work with when he got here. Tranghese and Marinatto on the other hand just blew it at every turn.
 
Rondogg said:
Here I go again.- starting to dream about the ACC again. The same ACC that has broken my heart twice by gutting my conference and leaving me with the rubble. I don't want the B10, they have Michigan and OState and everyone else is 2nd fiddle. This will be the case forever and I don't see it changing now that Penn State has fallen.

I also have no interest in travelling west (and or North) for games. I want to go South and travel to NC and Florida. I want to play my old friends Syr, BC, Pitt and ND. I want to play basketball against Dook and UNC!

Crap, now I'm getting excited...again. Double crap.
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Not in the same camp.
1.Want no part of the all carpetbagger conference. Tried to destroy the Big East on multiple occasions. About travelling to Florida: don't bank on it. Maryland leaves & FSU is out the door as fast as you can say SEC or Big-12. I've had enough of the Leprechauns feeling that they're too good to join a conference for football & don't want that albatross around UConn's neck.
2. The B1G is a more cultural fit for UConn.(Mostly a collection of major state public institutions). Their athletics also mirror UConn's. But the real advantages of joining the B1G are twofold. First & foremost is the monetary distribution to B1G members by the Big Ten Network. It's such an advantage that the SEC is seriously considering starting their own in-house network. It's something that the ACC can't (as long as ESPN controls their apron strings) match. Secondly is the CIC academic consortium, which would jive with Pres. Herbst's commitment to UConn drastically increasing it research capabilities.
For all the discussion over the years about increasing the football fanbase & expanding the RENT, I feel the admission to the B1G is a much better fit than admission to the ACC. We'll get more sellouts with help from B1G travelbases & attractiveness of competition thqan we could ever hope from from the ACC. Basketball is no slouch either,with traditional powers Wisconsin, Indiana, MSU, Purdue, Iowa, & even the Wolverines.
I'm thinking the ACC will be a shell of itself once realignment is complete with the move to Big 4 x 16 team conferences. They're living on borrowed time, & Big East fans have been living that nightmare for the last decade.
 
junglehusky said:
The thing that has me slightly less excited about the ACC now is that Rutgers and Maryland won't be there. For football, those would be two schools in driving distance where it would be fun to go with one of Phalen's bus tailgates. Without them there's still Cuse and BC, but Pitt is too far to drive... so we'd potentially go from two drivable road games a year to one. Not a deciding factor of course... just an observation.
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While it's true the ACC is less attractive than it was a couple years ago. Not having RU or MD has nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with them bow being the fifth wheel of a FB conference and potentially losing access to the playoff. Now they're champ needs to go undefeated. They are still a far sight better than the NNBE because of the Orange Bowl (even a discounted one), $$$., the old BE rivals, hoops, and it's still more stable than the NNBE.

B1G is the best slot but, even an ACC minus MD, Clemson and FSU is an upgrade.

Also, at what point do we stop using the BE name. In case anyone hasn't noticed there are no original BE FB teams left should RU leave.

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coachcap said:
Not in the same camp.
1.Want no part of the all carpetbagger conference. Tried to destroy the Big East on multiple occasions. About travelling to Florida: don't bank on it. Maryland leaves & FSU is out the door as fast as you can say SEC or Big-12. I've had enough of the Leprechauns feeling that they're too good to join a conference for football & don't want that albatross around UConn's neck.
2. The B1G is a more cultural fit for UConn.(Mostly a collection of major state public institutions). Their athletics also mirror UConn's. But the real advantages of joining the B1G are twofold. First & foremost is the monetary distribution to B1G members by the Big Ten Network. It's such an advantage that the SEC is seriously considering starting their own in-house network. It's something that the ACC can't (as long as ESPN controls their apron strings) match. Secondly is the CIC academic consortium, which would jive with Pres. Herbst's commitment to UConn drastically increasing it research capabilities.
For all the discussion over the years about increasing the football fanbase & expanding the RENT, I feel the admission to the B1G is a much better fit than admission to the ACC. We'll get more sellouts with help from B1G travelbases & attractiveness of competition thqan we could ever hope from from the ACC. Basketball is no slouch either,with traditional powers Wisconsin, Indiana, MSU, Purdue, Iowa, & even the Wolverines.
I'm thinking the ACC will be a shell of itself once realignment is complete with the move to Big 4 x 16 team conferences. They're living on borrowed time, & Big East fans have been living that nightmare for the last decade.
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They would have to invite us first.
 
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junglehusky said:
The thing that has me slightly less excited about the ACC now is that Rutgers and Maryland won't be there. For football, those would be two schools in driving distance where it would be fun to go with one of Phalen's bus tailgates. Without them there's still Cuse and BC, but Pitt is too far to drive... so we'd potentially go from two drivable road games a year to one. Not a deciding factor of course... just an observation.
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Um, Thunderchickens?
 
BarkingDog said:
Well, the Chicago Tribune is quoting Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbick as saying he's not surprised by maryland to the B10 just by the timing of it. That's a pretty good source.
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I would argue he is making that statement that nothing surprises him as opposed to he knew in advance Maryland's plans.
 
coachcap said:
Not in the same camp.
1.Want no part of the all carpetbagger conference. Tried to destroy the Big East on multiple occasions. About travelling to Florida: don't bank on it. Maryland leaves & FSU is out the door as fast as you can say SEC or Big-12. I've had enough of the Leprechauns feeling that they're too good to join a conference for football & don't want that albatross around UConn's neck.
2. The B1G is a more cultural fit for UConn.(Mostly a collection of major state public institutions). Their athletics also mirror UConn's. But the real advantages of joining the B1G are twofold. First & foremost is the monetary distribution to B1G members by the Big Ten Network. It's such an advantage that the SEC is seriously considering starting their own in-house network. It's something that the ACC can't (as long as ESPN controls their apron strings) match. Secondly is the CIC academic consortium, which would jive with Pres. Herbst's commitment to UConn drastically increasing it research capabilities.
For all the discussion over the years about increasing the football fanbase & expanding the RENT, I feel the admission to the B1G is a much better fit than admission to the ACC. We'll get more sellouts with help from B1G travelbases & attractiveness of competition thqan we could ever hope from from the ACC. Basketball is no slouch either,with traditional powers Wisconsin, Indiana, MSU, Purdue, Iowa, & even the Wolverines.
I'm thinking the ACC will be a shell of itself once realignment is complete with the move to Big 4 x 16 team conferences. They're living on borrowed time, & Big East fans have been living that nightmare for the last decade.
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Completely agree. I would even be willing to sit out this wave of conference realignment if it increased our chances of getting into the B1G over the ACC. I'm not convinced that FSU, VT, Clemson, and others (the conference consists of MANY schools who left conferences!) wouldn't leave if given an invite. If invited and we accept ACC membership, it's a $50M buyout. We are talking about a $1M buyout being too much to make a coaching change...how in the world could we ante up $50M to leave the ACC once others schools with bigger donors than UConn leave for greener pastures?? We should be looking to make our "reasonable" $10M buyout count and the only way it would count is if we could get into the B1G. How does it work for both?

Works for UConn:
1. Money: like you said, the B1G Network provides financial stability without any future ESPiN negotiations weighing over our heads.
2. Football: UConn instantly trumps BC and Cuse in football visibility. And with PSU where they are, the opportunity is there to capture foothold in the northeast as NE's college team (sorry Flipper).
3. CT jobs: leads to stadium expansion as a result of HUGE traveling B1G fan bases which leads to construction of more hotels, restaurants, bars, entertainment options, etc which leads to jobs in CT which leads to UConn's ability (along with moving a satellite campus to downtown Hartford) of convincing state politicians/taxpayers of its value within the community.
4. Academics: increases academic profile that Herbst is aggressively seeking simply by replacing partnerships with the likes of USF, UCF, Boise, etc with the B1G schools and their excellent academic reputations. We'd get that in the ACC too, but I think joining the B1G could accelerate efforts for AAU and CIS membership.

Works for B1G:
1. Marketshare: a RU and UConn combo play would all but lock up the NYC market, add exposure to Boston from UConn, and add all of CT. As a bonus, the increasing trend of scheduling games in huge NFL stadiums could lead to games at MetLife Stadium and Gillette Stadium.
2. Basketball: significantly upgrades the conference's basketball profile. Whenever you think of college hoops, you think of the Big East or ACC. While RU brings nothing in terms of basketball, a Maryland and UConn combo play brings one decent program (Maryland) and one national powerhouse program (UConn to its winter lineup). Mich St and Ohio St have been competitive in recent years (MSU with more success) and Indiana might be on a bounce back after years of struggling, but UConn brings recent, and multiple, national championships, a solid history of putting players in the NBA, and the ability to schedule MSG the Mecca for non-conference games.
3. Football: how does UConn bring something to the traditional "old money" football powers of the B1G? It's not as far-fetched as you might think. The SEC is by far and away considered the best conference in the country with the Pac 12 and Big 12 ahead of the B1G. This has to be a serious blow to the egos of the traditional "old money" programs. Investing in UConn in its infancy stage is similar to investing in Penn State decades ago before PSU became PSU. While UConn would not pose an immediate threat to OSU, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska, etc (this is a good thing for "old money"), it has shown the ability to develop national powerhouse winning programs in most other sports, against the odds of many. Similar to buying a cheap growth stock, UConn football comes cheap right now but could grow as both basketball programs grew in the past few decades.
4. Money: this is what is driving all of this conference re-alignment so it should be noted that Connecticut just happens to be home to the highest average income earning households in the country. How is this relevant? The average UConn fan does not get excited by a schedule of Buffalo and other MAC schools, USF, Cincinnati, etc, it WOULD get excited by annual visits from and trips to Michigan (check it out in 2013), OSU, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Michigan State, etc. So what does that mean? It means our fanbase has the ability (money) to travel to other B1G states and bring our hotel, restaurant, tickets, souvenirs money with us. Now I know money doesn't grow on trees here in CT but perception is what it is so why not let it work for us?
 
coachcap said:
I'm thinking the ACC will be a shell of itself once realignment is complete with the move to Big 4 x 16 team conferences. They're living on borrowed time, & Big East fans have been living that nightmare for the last decade.
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Coach - Hadn't thought of that. I don't think I could handle the elation of joining the ACC followed by a decade of watching teams get picked off and the ACC adding NBE teams until we are in the same conference we are in right now!
 

Great year so far; keep it up and you're in line for your first BE Championship in football. And haven't we heard your BB recruiting is on the upswing?? Maybe you'll even make day 3 at MSG for once.
 
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junglehusky said:
The thing that has me slightly less excited about the ACC now is that Rutgers and Maryland won't be there. For football, those would be two schools in driving distance where it would be fun to go with one of Phalen's bus tailgates. Without them there's still Cuse and BC, but Pitt is too far to drive... so we'd potentially go from two drivable road games a year to one. Not a deciding factor of course... just an observation.
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True, but B1G would only give us drives to mary/rutty....I'd prefer road trips to Cuse and bcu.
 
One other comment with regard to other sports: We've already spoken on football & hoops. UConn is making the upgrade to big time hockey with it's invitation to Hockey East. It would be an easy transition to the B1G Hockey League. The ACC has great lacrosse. UConn has shown no interest in bringing back men's lax, & I wonder where Maryland & Rutgers will place their lax teams Does the B1G support men's Lax.
 
I can't stand the B10. Not for football, not for basketball. The money is great there, but the conference plays favorites. I know the ACC does as well but at least the basketball is good. I can see UConn football winning a division the way BC did a couple times. There is no chance in hell that the powers would ever allow that in the B10.

So, I'd rather see UConn in the ACC for sports purposes, but the money is better in the B10, and that matters quite a bit.
 
Beggars can't be choosers in a sense. If UConn can't someone get included in the current B1G discussions I don't think it can bypass an ACC invite if it gets one for a future B1G one.

But gosh, do whatever possible. Offer to take a minimal, sliding share for first 5 years.
 
Uconnblog reporting on twitter that uconn expects to be member of acc by Thanksgiving.
 
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