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Bilas was stressing that this is an athletic Wisconsin team, sort of like this isn't your granddaddy's Badgers, well they still look fairly unathletic to me. Kentucky is so far ahead of everyone else from what I've seen so far.
 
boog204 said:
The Plumlee's get a bad rap; although this one is by far the worst of the lot. But the other two are both pros and as a whole they are so much more athletic than anyone gives them credit for. I can't remember which one is which, but the one on Brooklyn is really solid and was like a 17 and 10 guy in college. I think we'd kill for any one of them right about now as an active, big body with some skill.
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The Plumlee's in the NBA are almost freakish athletically.
 
Okafor uses his off arm to wrap around a ton. was doing it vs stanford a lot.he's gonna have his hands full with brimah, i worry more about jones destroying our overzealous guards off the bounce
 
UcannUconn said:
Okafor scares me, he has so many post moves. Some made for the sole purpose of getting the defender to commit a foul. Brimah can not leave his feet.
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It's almost like when KO gives his fire and brimstone pregame speech, we need Brimah in the other room listening to the sounds of the ocean on headphones. Unlike everyone else, he needs to stay calm and not try to go in thinking he needs to block everything. If Okafor hits a couple shots early over him while he stays on his feet, so be it.
 
Kaminsky doesn't look seven feet to me. He also has a slow release and almost a set shot like a female player. He's good and crafty, but I don't really see him as an NBA player. I don't see how he can defend some of the NBA bigs. I can see him struggling to score on them too. He's been wisconsins best player by far though.

Overall not very impressed by Wisconsin. Where has Sam dekker been? He's been invisible. They're definitely good but not sure they're the second best team.

Duke on the other hand is very good and they will only get better. They might be the best team in the country, and yes they includes ky. Okafor is ridiculously skilled. Duke has been winning and controlling this entire game and they're the young team on the road against a veteran team
Pretty impressive.
 
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UCONN better be practicing its zone d concepts to protect the few precious resources it has
 
Wisky looks like they have not improved at all from last year .
 
How is it that a photo of Marshall Plumlee of all f--cking people is on the front page of espn.com? I know his 4 points and 3 rebounds were irreplaceable to the Duke win, but come on...

ESPN is such a joke.
 
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Best Duke team I believe I have ever seen, at least tonight. PG is really, really good. Okafor is skilled beyond his years. Supporting players very good. Wisky looked like a top 10 team that has a puncher's chance of winning it all.

But the thing that struck me the most watching these two teams tonight is . . . we can't shoot.
 
BUHusky said:
How is it that a photo of Marshall Plumlee of all f--cking people is on the front page of espn.com? I know his 4 points and 3 rebounds were irreplaceable to the Duke win, but come on...

ESPN is such a joke.
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Lol, grab the torches and pitchforks!!!!:eek:
 
They shot it exceptional last night and it happens. They are very good and a scary match up for us. But defensively if healthy we will create a lot more havoc and they won't shoot it as well, especially Jones who was real good last night, maybe played a bit over his head actually. The fact Winslow was hiding all night is scary because he, to me is the best of the perimeter players. Okafor should have had 3-4 fouls again last night early, over the back twice ignored by the refs and that's a problem. He's damn good and much better than I thought watching some HS stuff - a load for our inexperienced C.

If they shoot that good again and our guys allow them to, we're dead and that will be early in the game! But I think our guys can defend them better, make it tougher to score and stay within reach! Have to be healthy though and have to make shots. Their defense is good on the perimeter but not as good if you can gain the step - mid range games need to be very good although they won't block as many shot as Texas if you can get to the hole.

They're going to score so a game in the 50's probably won't happen so no matter how good our defense may be on the 18th our offense will need to get on the board more often! Hey, we own K right? never know
 
Kind of reminds me of that 09-10 game early on against Kentucky at MSG. We weren't as good but our guys rose to the challenge and we almost pulled it out. We're going to have to play the great D we've shown for 40 minutes and shoot it better than we have so far this year.
 
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With Duke looking so good, at least we won't be ridculed as much if we lose to them.
 
after what i saw last night we're going to seriously need to bring the noise to the Izod center.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Kaminsky is also what, 22? Obviously dude isn't saying he's as good as Dirk is right now.

Was Dirk doing all that when he was 22?
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Here is a funny story from Chuck about Dirk when he was 18

 
Okafor gets all the attention, but Duke's guards are outstanding. Tyus Jones is Tyler Ennis on steriods - just as poised, but a much bigger threat to score.

They beat the #4 team in the country by double digits in their building with Winslow doing nothing and Okafor only playing 27 minutes.

Still waiting on nelson's analysis of how they can't possibly be better than last year's team.
 
The biggest factor in the Duke game will be scoring more points than them.
 
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I think people are going a little overboard, yes they are very good but far from unbeatable. While Duke looked very good last night I thought Wisconsin looked pretty bad, they were slow and out of control at the same time on offense. Dekker was invisible and their defense was softer than baby poo, I expect us to play way better D.
 
Duke shot 65%. I didn't see the game. Do you think it was more Duke just having a tremendous shooting night (it happens sometimes, see 1985 NCAA Championship) or is Wisconsin's defense suspect? Teams don't normally shoot 65% for a whole game.
 
HooperScooper said:
Duke shot 65%. I didn't see the game. Do you think it was more Duke just having a tremendous shooting night (it happens sometimes, see 1985 NCAA Championship) or is Wisconsin's defense suspect? Teams don't normally shoot 65% for a whole game.
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Duke is a lot like 2011 Pitt in that they just hit a lot of tough shots. They have a lot of guys that can create for themselves. They didn't even have a lot of assists last night, they just have about 4 really good individual offensive players every time they're on the floor.
 
HooperScooper said:
Duke shot 65%. I didn't see the game. Do you think it was more Duke just having a tremendous shooting night (it happens sometimes, see 1985 NCAA Championship) or is Wisconsin's defense suspect? Teams don't normally shoot 65% for a whole game.
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That's about our FG% from the last two games added together.
 
HooperScooper said:
Duke shot 65%. I didn't see the game. Do you think it was more Duke just having a tremendous shooting night (it happens sometimes, see 1985 NCAA Championship) or is Wisconsin's defense suspect? Teams don't normally shoot 65% for a whole game.
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People saying Wisconsin played poorly are just looking to downplay what was, honestly, a pretty tremendous performance by Duke last night. If UConn had put on that performance I can guarantee you superjohn would not be chalking it up to Wisconsin playing poorly.
 
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