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Duke Post Game Thread

Not sure why they'd still be putting out this ad this far after the game, but I just got a reddit ad that was half Solo Ball tax app commercial and half Tarris Reed breakaway dunk

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Unfortunately, no I don’t believe a hook and hold is reviewable. But if you watch it live, you’ll realize Alex was being held so aggressively and violently, he actually couldn’t escape.
I'm almost certain a hook and hold is reviewable. I've seen lots of them where the refs review it on the monitor. Anyone else want to weigh in on this?

The rule change was enacted to increase player safety, but has already been the subject of controversy this season. The most notable incident that led to this change happened during the 2018 NCAA Tournament, when Purdue's Isaac Haas fractured his elbow while going for a rebound against Cal State Fullerton. The foul is now reviewable and a Flagrant 1 (two foul shots and the ball) or Flagrant 2 (offending player is also ejected) can be assessed depending on the severity of the play. The differences between a legal rebound and a "hook and hold" may seem minute to most viewers, but don't be surprised if officials call the foul during the 2019 NCAA Tournament.

 
I'm almost certain a hook and hold is reviewable. I've seen lots of them where the refs review it on the monitor. Anyone else want to weigh in on this?

The rule change was enacted to increase player safety, but has already been the subject of controversy this season. The most notable incident that led to this change happened during the 2018 NCAA Tournament, when Purdue's Isaac Haas fractured his elbow while going for a rebound against Cal State Fullerton. The foul is now reviewable and a Flagrant 1 (two foul shots and the ball) or Flagrant 2 (offending player is also ejected) can be assessed depending on the severity of the play. The differences between a legal rebound and a "hook and hold" may seem minute to most viewers, but don't be surprised if officials call the foul during the 2019 NCAA Tournament.

If you are correct and it was a flagrant one, then Alex would’ve had two shots (he would’ve made them both of course) and we’d be down by two with the ball.

Then we could’ve beat Duke the good old-fashioned way, and let them walk away with some tiny amount of dignity. But they insisted on making things difficult.
 
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Nowadays, there are so many made 3's in the last minute of the game, primarily because the leading team is afraid to foul the shooter, that the majority of coaches foul up 3. Its stupid not to. I've often had games where I was -3 and screwed because of this. The fact that Danny didn't, really threw them off. It was basically reverse psychology, but a major risk.
You clearly don’t watch as much college ball as I do, it’s definitely not what most teams do. The largest recent study on the “foul up 3” question was performed by Harvard and it showed that 11.7% of teams intentionally committed a foul when leading by 3 at the end of a game. That’s not a majority…not even close, but don’t let actual facts get in the way of making yourself a message board warrior.
 
I'm almost certain a hook and hold is reviewable. I've seen lots of them where the refs review it on the monitor. Anyone else want to weigh in on this?

The rule change was enacted to increase player safety, but has already been the subject of controversy this season. The most notable incident that led to this change happened during the 2018 NCAA Tournament, when Purdue's Isaac Haas fractured his elbow while going for a rebound against Cal State Fullerton. The foul is now reviewable and a Flagrant 1 (two foul shots and the ball) or Flagrant 2 (offending player is also ejected) can be assessed depending on the severity of the play. The differences between a legal rebound and a "hook and hold" may seem minute to most viewers, but don't be surprised if officials call the foul during the 2019 NCAA Tournament.

Coaches don't need to "challenge" for a hook and hold, but they can "appeal" to the refs to go and look for it since it's a flagrant 1.
 
Which means it's reviewable.
But Danny was very far from the play, diagonally across the entire court I believe. Something caught my eye, which caused me to rewind and take those pictures. Only then did I realized how blatant Ngongba was hooking.
 
The more I see the 10 seconds, it dawns on me that Dook went with the DONT GET FOULED!!! strategy. Fireable.
Sure. It's not a bad strategy, necessarily, just poor execution!
 
But Danny was very far from the play, diagonally across the entire court I believe. Something caught my eye, which caused me to rewind and take those pictures. Only then did I realized how blatant Ngongba was hooking.
The problem is it was RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE REF THAT CALLED IT the other way for Duke.
 
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Is anyone else still not over this W?
I still vividly remember the feeling when Langdon tripped over himself and our first title (something that a baker's dozen years earlier would have seemed a ridiculous aspiration) was secure.

I can't speak for everyone, but the way I felt when the ball went through the net will stick with me forever.
 

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