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Yikes, so the next person you name is Beal? A 6'3" shooting guard who isn't an athletic/physical freak and shooting is supposed to be his specialty and he shot 34% from the college 3. I would take MKG or roll the dice on Drummond but I'd imagine MJ would probably be haunted by nightmares of Kwame Brown in his sleep. As for TRob being NBA ready, I have no doubt he'll play hard as hell because his motor is non-stop, but when he went up against an NBA sized frontline in the title game he looked quite amateur in the post and was getting swallowed up down there.

Did you not see how Beal ended the year in the SEC and NCAA tournaments. 53% from the floor, 43% from three, 16.5 points per game, and 8 rebounds per game. He rebounds very well for his size and has a very solid all around offensive game, can shoot and finish at the rim, he'll be a very good player in the league. MKG concerns me as his strongest asset seems to be he is a "winner," good defender and rebounder but his jumpshot is below par for the NBA level. Back to TRob, while his shooting percentage in that game may not be strong he still ended up with 18 points and 17 rebounds which is a very solid game, he also had 11 points and 12 rebounds his first time around against UK in just 27 minutes of play while shooting a higher percentage from the floor. Also would like to point out Robinson was Kentucky's #1 priority and essentially had Davis shadow him wherever he went even though they already had Terrance Jones guarding him, they were basically throwing to bigs at him all night something he will not see too much of in the NBA and he still recorded double-doubles each time he played them which is pretty impressive.
 
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I would probably take MKG if I was Charlotte. MKG has more upside than Robinson and has already proven his competitive drive is top notch. Robinson is good, but he will be undersized at the 4 position in the NBA. I don't see his star potential. Solid player in the NBA is what I think. No way he is a better rebounder than Anthony Davis. Just because Robinson had a really good season in college, doesn't mean that will translate to the NBA.

Robinson is a much better rebounder than Davis, he is the #1 player in the draft in rebounds per 40 minutes (14.6), Davis rebounds per 40 minutes is 12.9. Your competitive drive point is non-existent because you can make the same point about Robinson, kid has a non-stop motor. Undersized? He measured at 6-10 in shoes, Davis is also 6-10 in shoes btw. If you watched him in college you would see he has a game that translates to the NBA and has the potential to be a very solid pick and roll player similar to Amare. Throw in he has a developing jumper, solid game on the block, and is very quick for someone at the 4 and his game certainly will translate to the NBA.
 
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Robinson is a much better rebounder than Davis, he is the #1 player in the draft in rebounds per 40 minutes (14.6), Davis rebounds per 40 minutes is 12.9. Your competitive drive point is non-existent because you can make the same point about Robinson, kid has a non-stop motor. Undersized? He measured at 6-10 in shoes, Davis is also 6-10 in shoes btw. If you watched him in college you would see he has a game that translates to the NBA and has the potential to be a very solid pick and roll player similar to Amare. Throw in he has a developing jumper, solid game on the block, and is very quick for someone at the 4 and his game certainly will translate to the NBA.

College rebounding stats per 40 don't mean . Imagine how many rebounds Davis would have got if he didn't play on a stacked team. Kansas was not deep and Robinson played a ton of minutes. How was Robinson's rebounding when the Morris twins played with him? Not extraordinary because he didn't play that much. If he was that good, he wouldn't have had average NBA players playing over him. Sorry, but MKG's motor is at a different level. You are nuts if you think he is similar to Amare. Are you from Kansas?
 
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Nothing shady about the team the NBA bought out and owns getting the #1 pick despite having the third (or so) best odds. Nothing at all.

Anywho, the Bobcats really should just take MKG. But knowing them, they'll probably take like Sullinger or Perry Jones.

I just pray Drummond doesn't end up there.
 
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Figuring who to pick at #2 is just as hard as figuring how to win a game for the Bobcats. They need any player that can at the very least double their win totals next year. UConn fans many say Drummond, but I don't think the Bobcats have the luxury of waiting for a player to develop. This appears to be a strong PF draft, which is not a bad pick if you need a big.
 
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i say take drummond. Suck next year again and get a top 5 pick again. Keep doing that till u turn into the thunder haha
 
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I agree, Bobcats should take Drummond. Not a believer that anyone else in the draft can be a franchise changer. Then again, not really a believer that he can be.

But taking Kidd Gilchrist with the #2 pick is a joke, hes a career 6th/7th man

Feel bad for Charlotte, they deserved Davis
 
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College rebounding stats per 40 don't mean . Imagine how many rebounds Davis would have got if he didn't play on a stacked team. Kansas was not deep and Robinson played a ton of minutes. How was Robinson's rebounding when the Morris twins played with him? Not extraordinary because he didn't play that much. If he was that good, he wouldn't have had average NBA players playing over him. Sorry, but MKG's motor is at a different level. You are nuts if you think he is similar to Amare. Are you from Kansas?

This getting good, college rebounds don't mean anything? Really? Is that why every consistent rebounder from college continues to rebound in the NBA? Paul Millsap,Dejuan Blair, David West and Kenneth Faried are great examples of this. Oh and Robinson averaged 6.4 rebounds in 14.6 minutes of play with the Morris twins around, that's 17.5 rebounds per 40 minutes so ya i think he can continue to rebound. Robinson has an explosive first step and is very fast for someone at the 4 there is no reason he can not be similar to Amare in the pick and roll game as both are explosive to the rim. If you watched Robinson there is no way you can say that MKG's motor is at a different level both players respectively play their tails off, to say MKG's motor is at a another level than Robinson's is crazy.
 

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Charlotte is such a mess.

They have 6 NBA caliber players (or potential players) in Kemba, DJ, Maggette, Biyombo, Henderson and Mullens. Of those 6 only 2 are rookies, 2 are starter quality but always injured, 2 are better suited as backups on a decent team.

Charlotte has almost zero ability to attract a decent free agent.

Charlotte has the above 6 as trading pieces, DJ is entering a contract year. Maggette may have some trade value. Mullens and Henderson have limited trade value. They shouldn't trade a draft pick.

The only way Charlotte will build is through the draft.

There is no Durant at #2 this year (Durant was a guaranteed star, it was just a matter of which star would be bigger Oden or Durant, pre-draft).

Charlotte needs to try their hardest to dump DJA and/or Maggette for a draft pick(s) in the mid-late first or early second.

I would take Drummond personally, because you need to swing for the fences at a franchise like the Bobcats. As stated, they will never, ever get a great FA. After that, hope and pray that someone decent (Harkless/White) drops all the way to #31.

That would at least give you a young core of:
Kemba
Biyombo
Drummond
Mullens
Henderson
#31 (let's say Royce White/Kevin Jones)

If they can get anything for DJ or Maggette that's just a bonus (maybe DJA to Miami? for #27). After that, you hope to get the #1 or #2 next year and add Shabazz Muhammad. They may have two first rounders next year, though Portland's is top 12 protected.

That would be a really nice looking core.

I might also amnesty Tyrus Thomas.
 
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I don't understand why folks want Charlotte to take Drummond
1. Ain't going to happen
2. Worst team & franchise by far in NBA right now
3. Jordan pick curse/stigma
4. Higher pick = higher expectations on a guy even the most ardent fan admits will take 2-3 years to develop

Andre needs a situation with great coaching, time to develop without pressure and a few high quality (preferrable older vets) around him. Of course nobody at top of lottery matches that but I'd say Cleveland would be the best fit based on the early drafters, where he's projected and best upside for AD.
 

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I don't understand why folks want Charlotte to take Drummond
1. Ain't going to happen
2. Worst team & franchise by far in NBA right now
3. Jordan pick curse/stigma
4. Higher pick = higher expectations on a guy even the most ardent fan admits will take 2-3 years to develop

Andre needs a situation with great coaching, time to develop without pressure and a few high quality (preferrable older vets) around him. Of course nobody at top of lottery matches that but I'd say Cleveland would be the best fit based on the early drafters, where he's projected and best upside for AD.


I don't want them to take Drummond, necessarily. I do think it's the best move for them.

Charlotte is not a well run franchise at all, but expectations actually wouldn't be that high, because they are such a poor team.

I agree with your overall assessment, though I would through in that he needs a good PG (which Cleveland also has). Charlotte is probably still a pretty good match with Kemba there and the coaches they are courting.
 

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Cleveland is actually a very interesting team. They have 4 draft picks this year: #4, #24, #33, #34

They have two rookies in Tristan Thompson and Kyrie Irving.

Otherwise they have Anderson Varejao, Luke Walton, Daniel Gibson (maybe), and Omri Casspi under contract. Only Casspi and Varejao are decent. Of those that are free agents, I wouldn't want any beyond a year.

They could realistically pick up the following four; Drummond, Tony Wroten, Doron Lamb, and Darius Miller.

That could give them a decent starting point going forward, but pretty bad next year.

I would even try to see if I could trade Anderson Varejao for a decent mid-first.

Probabaly have a depth like this for their young players:

PG: Kyrie Irving, Tony Wroten
SG: Tony Wroten, Doron Lamb
SF: Moe Harkless (Trade for Anderson Varejao), Darius Miller
PF: Tristan Thomson
C: Andre Drummond

Or they could get something like this: Beal, Melo, Miller, Kevin Jones.

That would net them for young players:

PG: Kyrie Irving
SG: Brad Beal
SF: Darius Miller
PF: Tristan Thompson, Kevin Jones
C: Fab Melo

They also have two first rounders next year in theirs and Miami's and two second rounders. Basically, they have a ton of room to gamble with a 8 picks in the next two years.
 
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Drummond to the Bobcats at 2 will be . . .

. . . bad for the Bobcats and,
. . . bad for Drummond.

Drummond will make the Bobcats worse, at least for a year or two. Maybe more - they need help now, not in a few years.

Bobcats should take Drummond only if they can immediately trade him.
why? if they are building for the future, they may land at the bottom of the league again and be guaranteed one of the top picks again. so who will come out next year? I'd say take Drummond, prepare for a crappy year, and shoot for a high draft pick the next year as well.
 
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MKG, Robinson, Drummond, Barnes, and Beal could all go #2 or #6. Not much of a difference in value besides preference. Charlotte should trade down imo and let other teams decide who they take.

And those thinking Charlotte will take Drummond they already have a center playing out of place in BJ Mullens, and Bismack Biyombo, one of the better rookies, is the future at center for them. Not to mention they have a first rounder from a couple years ago who is a PF/C stashed away in France or someplace. Taking Drummond will mean that the Bobcats have 30 million dollars invested in the center position over the next 2 years as well.
 

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can someone tell me besides his energy and hustle, what offensively can MKG do? and is he quick enough for his position? just asking bc i dont see taking him in the top 3-5
 
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I love conspiracies and all but he is wearing that hat because it matches his purple shirt. Kids that age are all about having a lot of fitted hats that will match with any of their outfits, doesn't matter if its their favorite team or not. The Hornets hat is one of the more popular ones.
 
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