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Im not a miami fan or a celts hater and i think you all are reaching. Rondo got fouled on the head late but he fouled LBJ late and was given a jump ball. Miami attacks the basket Boston doesnt.
 

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That 6th on Pierce was bogus. Wade threw his body right into him and Pierce got all ball.
Yes & he spun around so that his back impacted Pierce.
It is disgusting, but Dwade gets the superstar calls (as does LeBron). fabulous game today but zebras pushed the Heat over the top. Lack of call when Dwade smacked Rondo in the head was criminal!
 

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This is why I can't stand the NBA (and I have no dog in this fight). Sure, you can superman dive into the lane with absolutely no scoring objective besides throwing the ball in the vicinity of the hoop, just to get a foul call (as Lebon and Wade do), creating a free throw discrepancy like you saw tonight. You want to call that basketball, go ahead. I'll watch something else.

The only thing worth cheering for tonight was Ray Ray hitting ANOTHER clutch 3. The rest is all noise
 
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Im not a miami fan or a celts hater and i think you all are reaching. Rondo got fouled on the head late but he fouled LBJ late and was given a jump ball. Miami attacks the basket Boston doesnt.

I dunno:

Miami - 47 FTAs (and 26 3-point attempts)
Boston - 29 FTA - (and 16 3-point attempts)
LeBron - 24 FTA

Boston - 33 fouls
Miami - 18 fouls

Pierce fouls out (maybe half were actually fouls); Wade and James have 4 fouls combined (and 8 for the series).

I know home teams always get more calls, and Wade and LeBron are great at getting to the FT line (so is Pierce...who has just 6 FTAs for the series), but something seems a little out of whack here.

(And, um, the Rondo jump ball was actually a jump ball.)
 

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Refs were fine

If you actually believe that, then you are a bigger idiot than anyone could have possibly imagined. You didn't even have to watch the game to realize how atrocious the refs were. The box score tells the story plainly enough. UConn990411's last post summed it up nicely:

Miami - 47 FTAs (and 26 3-point attempts)
Boston - 29 FTA - (and 16 3-point attempts)
LeBron - 24 FTA

Boston - 33 fouls
Miami - 18 fouls

Numbers aside, the no call on the Rondo head rake was simply criminal. Missing that call resulted in a 4 point swing with just over a minute left. If you're a ref selected to work in the Conference Finals you're supposedly good at what you do. You can't miss that call.
 
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Again, pretty funny how many times Wade falls to the ground when he drives....most he's not touched but expects a call and many are called no matter.......joke!!! The message: "get LeBron and Wade to the finals.......Celts are too old..."

24FTs for LeBron is laughable
 
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Im not a miami fan or a celts hater and i think you all are reaching. Rondo got fouled on the head late but he fouled LBJ late and was given a jump ball. Miami attacks the basket Boston doesnt.

Are you joking, that was unequivocally a jump ball! Reread the rules son...
 

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the basketball universe is chiming in yet again, the officiating was horrible. It just it was it is, can't spin the truth

it's a joke, and it what makes the NBA unwatchable to so many. If it wasn't the C's and it wasn't the playoffs, I wouldn't be watching

the worst officiating of any sport in the world
 
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Sounds like a lot of celtic homers. You guys say after Game one how u need to put someone on their ass then complain when you guys get called for fouls? Cmon now.

Uh, people are complaining about no-calls.
 
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The Celtics blew a double digit lead, end of discussion. A Celtics fan complaining about calls going against them please.
 

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Just because you're pissed about some Celtics-Knicks game (whatever happened to the Knicks???) doesn't mean people can't gripe about Rondo getting slapped across the face and not getting the call -- leading to 2 points NOT going to Celtics and 2 points going to the Heat (since Rondo was on the ground and the Heat got a 5-on-4).

You can't point to the foul shot differential because the Celtics do take a lot more jump shots. But that play -- a terrible, non-call by the refs -- changed the momentum of the game. Instead of Celtics going up 2, the Heat went up 2.

Celts had their chances. But if you think people aren't going to be pissed about Wade slapping Rondo across the face and getting away with it, and then kicking KG and getting the foul call 30 seconds later, then you're crazy.
 
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I'm no Celtics fan but I don't see how anyone could watch the last 2 games and not see that the Celtics are getting hosed. It's very fitting that in the last minute of overtime Rondo gets whacked in the head going up for a layup by Wade and on the other end Wade karate kicks Garnett and the foul is on Garnett. I don't ever recall a player getting as many calls as Wade continually gets and yes that includes Jordan, I'll never forget when he won the title against the Mavericks, it was a foul if the Mavs breathed on him.
 
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Rondo hacked James twice then got the ball for that jump ball call. I see ur ring leader Bill Simmons is getting all you fools fired up.
 
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Haven't read a single thing Simmons has written in 5 years, I think the guy sucks. I'm guessing most of the posters here didn't read what Simmons wrote either, they actually watched the game.
 
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This thread is crazy.

A couple bad calls here or there: lebron jump ball was a def reach in, Rondo got hit in the head(tho that would have been a hell of a bailout of a twisting, out of control lay up).

But conspiracy? Noooo. Fellas the Miami heat attack the basket HARD and shoot threes. Thats their offense. There is not alot of midrange, which don't draw fouls. Conversely with the exception of Rondo, every other player on the Celts is a midrange jump shooter!!!! Are u homers kidding me?

When for years UCONN MADE more FTs than our opponents ATTEMPTED we chalk it up to a superior team and athleticism. Does the same not apply here? I've seen a Miami team that is treating Boston like its kid brother, being explosive and going hard at the Boston Bigs.

Rondo just threw up a Oscar Robertson/Walt Clyde Frazier performance on the Road no less and Boston still lost!!

What series are you watching?

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This thread is crazy.

A couple bad calls here or there: lebron jump ball was a def reach in, Rondo got hit in the head(tho that would have been a hell of a bailout of a twisting, out of control lay up).

But conspiracy? Noooo. Fellas the Miami heat attack the basket HARD and shoot threes. Thats their offense. There is not alot of midrange, which don't draw fouls. Conversely with the exception of Rondo, every other player on the Celts is a midrange jump shooter!!!! Are u homers kidding me?
Ha.

Rondo almost made that layup despite getting smacked in the head, so it's pretty likely he would have made it if he hadn't been. Tough to call that a "hell of a bailout."

And normally I'd agree with you about the Heat attacking the basket so well, but last night's shot chart - along with the fact Miami took 11 more 3-pointers - kind of renders that argument obsolete. Oh, and Pierce is one of the best players ever at getting to the FT line...yet he's been there 6 times all series (it took him till almost halftime of Game 2 before he got his first attempts). Meanwhile, his counterpart got there 24 times in last night's game alone, and has been there 33 times in two games.

I'm not shouting conspiracy or anything, but for whatever reason things have been a little out of whack so far.
 
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You must follow Bill Homer Simmons on twitter. He really lost his SH#T this morning. I saw the shot chart.

Did u not read my post? Miami goes to the bucket and shoots threes, Boston shoots mostly midrange J's... so its not out of character for MIA to shoot more threes, and still have a FT discrep.

Oh and on Rondos shot, still a foul but wade hit him after he released the shot. I still think it would been a bailout.

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And the reason Paul Pierce has struggled to get it going this series? He wears # 6 for the heat and he's been abusing Pierce on both ends of the floor. Lebron knows the only way pierce can get his points is by being crafty and he is having none of it. Clinic on defense from Lebron.

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Did u not read my post? Miami goes to the bucket and shoots threes, Boston shoots mostly midrange J's... so its not out of character for MIA to shoot more threes, and still have a FT discrep.
Yes, I did, but clearly you did not take a look at the shot chart. It wasn't a huge discrepancy between the way the teams attacked the paint last night.

And it's laughable that you're defending that no call in any way. That should never, ever be missed.

 
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Homer? Perhaps I am. However, I just want consistency on both ends.

KG gets a T last night for shoving a Miami big after he was hammered. Ok, likely the right call. Game 1, LeBron sticks his elbow in KG's ear after a whistle, nothing. LeBron taunts KG after a foul, nothing. Game 2, one of the Miami bigs (Turiaf?) throws an elbow after the whistle, nothing.

After Ray's "technical" in game 1, one of the Heat bench players nearly does an irish jig in reaction to a foul call on him. Nothing.

Rondo's "out of control" drive to the rim was a would-be bailout? Maybe. And D-Wade's drive on Pierce's 6th foul wasn't a bail out? Wasn't he out of control? He threw his body into a pile of green jerseys, turned himself around in mid air and flung the ball up at the rim. That is the epitome of out of control/bailout. Or, the flying karate kick into KG's mid section wasn't an out of control call with a bailout whistle? KG was moving backwards on the play.

Celtics are called for fouls on the perimeter and away from the ball with regularity. When the Celtics are in bounding under the hoop, the Heat are bumping all cuts to the outside and grabbing all players trying to get free in the middle. No whistles...

Miami has been the better team so far this series but when you look for consistency from one game to the next, or even from one end to the other, it isn't there no matter how you slice it and that is what is bothersome to Celtics fans.
 
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Look harder then. Rondo whack Lebron twice then got a jump ball to them that was a good call. Lebron taunting KG in game one???? No KG was the one talking and Lebron stood there and held the ball out.

They missed a big call on Rondo and some of the T's have been bad. But the whole conspiracy theorist and blaming the refs for the whole game is way over done.
 

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No conspiracy here, just NBA refs doing what NBA refs do

do home teams shoot more free throws? NBA box scores prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt

do NBA superstars get preferential treatment? is there anybody associated with the NBA in any capacity that doesn't think that? seriously?

are the C's getting hosed? without a doubt. The numbers and the T's and the idiotic calls just don't lie, they can't be denied. That doesn't mean every bad call goes the Heat's way, just the vast majority of them.

it's just the NBA being the NBA
 
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Look harder then. Rondo whack Lebron twice then got a jump ball to them that was a good call. Lebron taunting KG in game one???? No KG was the one talking and Lebron stood there and held the ball out.

They missed a big call on Rondo and some of the T's have been bad. But the whole conspiracy theorist and blaming the refs for the whole game is way over done.

Rondo's hand first contacts the ball and then their arms lock. That is a held ball EVERY time. Just like when two players gain possession and they shuffle their feet. Held ball, no travel.
 

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Look harder then. Rondo whack Lebron twice then got a jump ball to them that was a good call. Lebron taunting KG in game one???? No KG was the one talking and Lebron stood there and held the ball out.

They missed a big call on Rondo and some of the T's have been bad. But the whole conspiracy theorist and blaming the refs for the whole game is way over done.

that play simply didn't impact anything, Heat won the tip and ran their offense just as if James passed it back out (which is what it looked like he was trying to do)
 
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