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I agree with this. Hence my argument that we over schedule. Having 4-6 games a year where we have no shot does no good for our perception. Winning 8-10 games a year changes it even if those are eh teams.
It's a fair point, but I also think it's a dangerous mindset. Once you start seeking success by lowering your competition there is the potential to think that you could have more success by lowering your competition further and so on. It's a death spiral mindset or, at least, has the potential to become one.
 
It's a fair point, but I also think it's a dangerous mindset. Once you start seeking success by lowering your competition there is the potential to think that you could have more success by lowering your competition further and so on. It's a death spiral mindset or, at least, has the potential to become one.
I disagree. Our current scheduling mindset is what creates a death spiral. Playing 4-6 games a year where you are almost guarenteed to lose means you are almost guaranteeing a 500 record is your upside. Army is the poster child for this. They play 2 P5 teams a year, but offset this with 2 FCS teams. This year they played 3 P5s but that is unusual. They also played Delaware State and have Holy Cross. Navy did the same thing when Johnson came pre AAC. VaTech used to schedule non-conference teams they new they would usually beat outside there old Big East games. They wanted to be 4-0 in the non-league portion of the schedule. Once they were an established program they upgraded their schedule. Just to be clear, I’m not advocating playing 2 FCS teams. But not 4-6 P5 teams either.
 
I think we will be better next year, but I also think we need a realistic world view. Those who think we should be playing a heavily loaded P4 schedule are surely going to be disappointed. We can be a good to very good G5 team. We can win against mid to lower level P5 teams, but again being a realist, our upside is probably 40% on those type games. We aren’t beating a Top 15 team except in some exceptional circumstance. Think Appalachian State over Michigan. If I were making the schedule it would be more AAC/MWC/MAC and less P4. I’d say something like:
AAC: 2 home. 2Away
MWC 1 H 1 A
MAC. 1 H 1A
P4. 1H. 1A
Sun/CUSA 1 H 1A
Substitute FCS for 1 Sun/CUSA from time to time.
Avoid perennial Top 10s.
We need to schedule for success. Look at the ranked G 5 teams. Tulane played Ol’ Miss. That’s it and their only loss. James Madison beat a dismal Virginia by a point. That’s it for Power teams. Both are top 25 teams. Liberty is 25 in the AP and has played 0 p5 teams. We over schedule, at least right now. If we are 10-2, people will talk about us in a good way.

Bottom line is we are where we are. Our goal should be to be a top G5 and that comes from winning games, not from playing the toughest schedule we can assemble. I think Mora can get us to that place. But some of our schedules make that very very difficult. 2026 is nuts. Lafayette then We will probably be 1-4 out of the gate. Even if we are a petty good team. Playing 5 P4 teams is not a route to being successful. It is the route to mediocrity or worse. That’s why Army plays 2 FCS games annually. It’s why Navy did the same prior to joining the AAC. They play a mix of MAC Sunbelt and CUSA and a couple of MW/AAC teams. And at most 2 P5 teams.
Well sorry, but no one will care to come and watch if you do that. I would much rather go back to FCS and play an ex-Yankee, Patriot, and Ivy schedule.
 
It's an unsolvable problem, imo. Hence, my lack of hope. This market will not support anything less than P5 football. And I see no path there. Especially since the ACC, our only reasonable landing spot seems to want to kill us.
 
I don't think that rhe ACC wants to kill the Huskies...I think it is all about football and has been for 20 years...

How much discussion of Cal, Stanford, or SMU's basketball worth did we really hear ?
 
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I don't think that rhe ACC wants to kill the Huskies...I think it is all about football and has been for 20 years...

How much discussion of Cal, Stanford, or SMU's basketball worth did we really hear ?
Unfortunately it's been made amply clear that basketball doesn't matter.
 
I don't think that rhe ACC wants to kill the Huskies...I think it is all about football and has been for 20 years...

How much discussion of Cal, Stanford, or SMU's basketball worth did we really hear ?
Cal, Stanford, and SMU aren’t exactly world beaters on the football field.
 
It's a fair point, but I also think it's a dangerous mindset. Once you start seeking success by lowering your competition there is the potential to think that you could have more success by lowering your competition further and so on. It's a death spiral mindset or, at least, has the potential to become one.
I disagree. Our current scheduling mindset is what creates a death spiral. Playing 4-6 games a year where you are almost guarenteed to lose means you are almost guaranteeing a 500 record is your upside. Army is the poster child for this. They play 2 P5 teams a year, but offset this with 2 FCS teams. This year they played 3 P5s but that is unusual. They also played Delaware State and have Holy Cross. Navy did the same thing when Johnson came pre AACoVaTech used to schedule non-conference teams they new they would usually beat outside there old Big East games. They wanted to be 4-0 in the non-league portion of the schedule. Once they were an established program they upgraded their schedule.
Well sorry, but no one will care to come and watch if you do that. I would much rather go back to FCS and play an ex-Yankee, Patriot, and Ivy schedule.
Then don’t go. I suspect a 10-2 team will out draw a 6-6 one on a regular basis.
 
Unfortunately it's been made amply clear that basketball doesn't matter.
I mean I agree. We have been the best program, measured by championships at least, for the last 25 years. Nobody has won more championships over the past quarter century. It has gotten us nowhere.
 
Too many words without hitting the answer. I’m not worried about the University doing enough. The money we keep throwing at the program, given the last dozen years, is frankly amazing. Can we do things better, or throw more at it, sure.

NIL is not paid for by the school. NIL is paid for by boosters. If you want to know if there is hope, ask whether boosters are willing to support football players with enough money to compete with the good G-5 schools. We know our boosters are doing enough for top basketball players, if not the very top. But the way to rapidly climb the ranks of the G-5 is to have more NIL money from boosters that the school can connect players with.
 
I don't think that rhe ACC wants to kill the Huskies...I think it is all about football and has been for 20 years...

How much discussion of Cal, Stanford, or SMU's basketball worth did we really hear ?
Respectfully disagree. Considering the Fiesta Bowl appearance and beating South Carolina in a bowl, UConn was doing reasonably well in football, but the ACC chose Louisville University when they had a chance to elevate the conference with an across the board solid academic and athletic university that gets more of the New York market than the fruit could. Don't kid yourself Billy, your beloved ACC has a singular goal of hurting UConn every time it can, and it has.
 
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Yuck, seems like a step in the wrong direction. If you’re so concerned about planning Wins, I’d rather play two FCS games per year and keep the rest of the independent schedule… I do think AD David Benedict has gotten some good matchups scheduled, and isn’t done yet.
you can only count 1 FCS game per year.

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I'm not up for making the scheduling easier. I don't the scheduling Michigan or Tennessee has any real value until we have a 10-20 percent chance of winning but i know these contracts are done far in advance. My desire for the MAC is more a league to give the players something to fight for every week, to struggle up and down the standings and leaderboard.
 
So seems like a long time ago. This team was very competitive against NC St. 10 point loss. From there, straight down hill.
 
If the 2010 Fiesta Bpwl year is cited as a high point...yes, I think that UConn can be an 8-5 team again. I have faith.

Four of those games were three point games with 3 of the 4 going the Huskies' way. Winning close games makes a difference.

However, as an Indy, it will be very difficult to see a NY6 bowl...and an 8 win record won't get you there if not a conference champ and probably not then.

But, I certainly see participation in one of the 42 bowl games as a recurring future possibility.
As an outsider with an keen interest in football and some UConn knowledge
In the absence of a P conference invite for 5-6 years
Is the Best course Indy or a G5 league as a football only ?
if the later
Which league is the best option?
PAC/MW if it happens
AAC
MAC
Sunbelt
CUSA
 
Cal, Stanford, and SMU aren’t exactly world beaters on the football field.

Respectfully disagree. Considering the Fiesta Bowl appearance and beating South Carolina in a bowl, UConn was doing reasonably well in football, but the ACC chose Louisville University when they had a chance to elevate the conference with an across the board solid academic and athletic university that gets more of the New York market than the fruit could. Don't kid yourself Billy, your beloved ACC has a singular goal of hurting UConn every time it can, and it has.

UConn had a losing season in 2012...Louisville was 11-2 that year in the BE...and in 2013 went 12-1 in the AAC while UConn was 3-9...UConn didn't hold serve after their 8 win seasons and Louisville was tapped to go to the ACC in 2014.

You can blame an ACC grudge...but UConn had three consecutive losing seasons right before Louisville went to the ACC...the fact that Louisville was 2012-13 basketball NC probably did not play in....but it did not hurt.
 
Can I wait to see the caliber of the 12-14 players Mora gets from the portal? Always faithful but a great crew of impact players would sure make things seem more hopeful.
 
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UConn had a losing season in 2012...Louisville was 11-2 that year in the BE...and in 2013 went 12-1 in the AAC while UConn was 3-9...UConn didn't hold serve after their 8 win seasons and Louisville was tapped to go to the ACC in 2014.

You can blame an ACC grudge...but UConn had three consecutive losing seasons right before Louisville went to the ACC...the fact that Louisville was 2012-13 basketball NC probably did not play in....but it did not hurt.
No doubt. That played a huge role. I was just stating a fact about the 3 new additions. They are all pretty terrible. I think SMU will elevate their programs in the ACC. I think the move for Cal and Stanford will be a net loss in terms of athletics for both school and makes absolutely no sense for them.
 
It's an unsolvable problem, imo. Hence, my lack of hope. This market will not support anything less than P5 football. And I see no path there. Especially since the ACC, our only reasonable landing spot seems to want to kill us.
Well, their teams do still schedule UConn, so I don't quite agree with that part. But yes,nothing less than P4 football will be supported. Except when it comes to raising money to pay the players. So there is indeed no path unless UConn wins both natties this winter and a P4 invites UConn. Then things get easier. But until then?
 
I’m still holding out hope. We have a very good football schedule, considering our independence for the next few years and our basketball is obviously doing very well in the Big East. The Big12 is up for renewal in 2031 so there could be more potential conference realignment later this decade. We have time to correct and make improvements to the football team. I believe there will be quite the turnover after the season is over as many of the existing players will likely hit the portal.

I like Jim Mora’s philosophy of embracing the portal to gain players with game experience.
 
Yuck, seems like a step in the wrong direction. If you’re so concerned about planning Wins, I’d rather play two FCS games per year and keep the rest of the independent schedule… I do think AD David Benedict has gotten some good matchups scheduled, and isn’t done yet.
i think the point was, we need to stop playing clemson/michigan/ohio state/tennessee, etc. for the immediate future. the money we make is not worth the embarassment and deeper hole that getting ruined like that, puts us in. it's true that a sun belt opponent isn't as sexy as Michigan, but again what the heck is the point if we have to go to ann arbor just to get destroyed by the end of the first quarter. we need FBS wins and fast. a fairer schedule against appropriate competition, makes that more possible. overscheduling P4's without being one, is masochism.
 
i think the point was, we need to stop playing clemson/michigan/ohio state/tennessee, etc. for the immediate future. the money we make is not worth the embarassment and deeper hole that getting ruined like that, puts us in. it's true that a sun belt opponent isn't as sexy as Michigan, but again what the heck is the point if we have to go to ann arbor just to get destroyed by the end of the first quarter. we need FBS wins and fast. a fairer schedule against appropriate competition, makes that more possible. overscheduling P4's without being one, is masochism.
You really don’t have to lose that badly when your team is decent. We’ve beaten SEC and Big Ten schools several times in the past and we were never a great team.

If we can offer NIL money, Mora will recruit well. He’s a great guy with a reputation and a track record. The focus should be on NIL, recruiting and the offense. Downgrading the schedule isn’t worth it.
 
I’m still holding out hope. We have a very good football schedule, considering our independence for the next few years and our basketball is obviously doing very well in the Big East. The Big12 is up for renewal in 2031 so there could be more potential conference realignment later this decade. We have time to correct and make improvements to the football team. I believe there will be quite the turnover after the season is over as many of the existing players will likely hit the portal.

I like Jim Mora’s philosophy of embracing the portal to gain players with game experience.
Just remember that shopping in the portal requires enough cash in the collectives allocated to FB and not BB.
 
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It's an unsolvable problem, imo. Hence, my lack of hope. This market will not support anything less than P5 football. And I see no path there. Especially since the ACC, our only reasonable landing spot seems to want to kill us.
The closest thing to P4 football is playing as many P4 teams as possible (5-6).
 
i think the point was, we need to stop playing clemson/michigan/ohio state/tennessee, etc. for the immediate future. the money we make is not worth the embarassment and deeper hole that getting ruined like that, puts us in. it's true that a sun belt opponent isn't as sexy as Michigan, but again what the heck is the point if we have to go to ann arbor just to get destroyed by the end of the first quarter. we need FBS wins and fast. a fairer schedule against appropriate competition, makes that more possible. overscheduling P4's without being one, is masochism.
I don't have a problem scheduling P4 teams. I have a problem scheduling buy games at top 20 programs. Playing UNC, Pitt, Ole Miss, Maryland, Wake H/H is perfect for me. Most of those games we can at least be competitive.
 
Yuck, seems like a step in the wrong direction. If you’re so concerned about planning Wins, I’d rather play two FCS games per year and keep the rest of the independent schedule… I do think AD David Benedict has gotten some good matchups scheduled, and isn’t done yet.
They are only “good matchups” if we have at least a punchers chance. I’m saying it makes no sense to put together a schedule where your best outcome is 6-6. You guys are like the farmer wow enters his mule in the Kentucky derby. Knows he can’t win but hopes the mule gets a benefit from the association. You guys want to play games we don’t have the horses to win. Do you think James Madison fans say we’re 9-0 and ranked 24 but we didn’t play 4 P5 opponents? Do Tulane fans say we’re 8-1 and probably going to the Sugar Bowl but we only played 1 p5? In a couple of years, with a reasonable schedule, we could get to that level. With our schedule maybe we get to 7-5 in a really good year.
 
Too many words without hitting the answer. I’m not worried about the University doing enough. The money we keep throwing at the program, given the last dozen years, is frankly amazing. Can we do things better, or throw more at it, sure.

NIL is not paid for by the school. NIL is paid for by boosters. If you want to know if there is hope, ask whether boosters are willing to support football players with enough money to compete with the good G-5 schools. We know our boosters are doing enough for top basketball players, if not the very top. But the way to rapidly climb the ranks of the G-5 is to have more NIL money from boosters that the school can connect players with.
The UConn budget is $3.1 Billion for next year. The budget without UConn Health is 1.6 Billion. Spending on football is lost in the decimal points.
 
You really don’t have to lose that badly when your team is decent. We’ve beaten SEC and Big Ten schools several times in the past and we were never a great team.

If we can offer NIL money, Mora will recruit well. He’s a great guy with a reputation and a track record. The focus should be on NIL, recruiting and the offense. Downgrading the schedule isn’t worth it.
This is the post that everyone panicking needs to re-read! If we had won a couple of the close games this year, most folks wouldn’t be wanting to downgrade the schedule.

Let’s use the NIL right, hit the portal hard this off-season and see how the next year or two look before we downgrade the schedule/team.
 
They are only “good matchups” if we have at least a punchers chance. I’m saying it makes no sense to put together a schedule where your best outcome is 6-6. You guys are like the farmer wow enters his mule in the Kentucky derby. Knows he can’t win but hopes the mule gets a benefit from the association. You guys want to play games we don’t have the horses to win. Do you think James Madison fans say we’re 9-0 and ranked 24 but we didn’t play 4 P5 opponents? Do Tulane fans say we’re 8-1 and probably going to the Sugar Bowl but we only played 1 p5? In a couple of years, with a reasonable schedule, we could get to that level. With our schedule maybe we get to 7-5 in a really good year.
This isn't even honest. We played 4 P5 opponents including BC who is one of the worst power conference programs.
Most of us went into the season thinking we could win anywhere from 5-8 games. Yes, Tennessee was going to be an automatic loss, but every other game (bar NC State), most people thought we would have a chance to win. The other problem is that many people are forgetting our two easiest opponents we have not even played yet. We are not going to finish 1-11. At worst we will finish 2-10 and likely 3-9. We literally blew three games this year. That is the difference between being a bowl team and not. We can be competitive, and we are likely to get blown out by James Madison this week but they are 9-0.

I would rather be 7-5 playing a P4-heavy schedule than 8-4 or 9-3 playing in the MAC. It is much more of an achievement, and let's not forget, UConn has NEVER won more than 9 games at the FBS level so I do not expect that to happen in CUSA or the MAC.
 
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