Do We Care About Bowl Games?

[billybud]

I asked the question nicely because I already knew the answer. Feel free to be wrong on this - your motivation for being here doesn’t even make any sense to me. I’m sure all the teams that schedule NEC teams don’t know but your wikipedia link does.

you might note that the guy with an NEC school avatar also knows...

Sooo...you can't answer..for all of the conference.

Wagner does count...they have above the 90% level..

And do all NEC teams schedule FBS teams ?.....

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

NEC does Not count as a win....reference below:

1. No more than one win against an FCS team may count toward that win total, and only if the FCS team has awarded at least 90% of the scholarships that FCS rules allowed it to award over the last two years.[2] (Currently, that means that wins against Ivy League, Pioneer Football League, and Northeast Conference teams and Georgetown do not count.) The requirement that the FCS team must have awarded 90% of its allowed scholarships may be waived if a "unique or catastrophic situation" prevented the FCS team from meeting that requirement.[2]

From 2013

 

[whaler11]

Sooo...you can't answer..for all of the conference.

Wagner does count...they have above the 90% level..

lol the guy said maybe Sacred Heart doesn’t.

Sorry if there is one school that doesn’t count.

 

[uconnphil2016]

Aren’t there usually more bowls than eligible teams?

 

[billybud]

"the guy"...said maybe..

OK...But Duquesne, entering 2018 season had not kicked up from 45 yet...can't find current info...

 

[whaler11]

"the guy"...said maybe..

OK...But Duquesne, entering 2018 season had not kicked up from 45 yet...can't find current info...

they played Hawaii and UMass last year you can stop wondering. just eat the loss.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Aren’t there usually more bowls than eligible teams?

I posted it in a different thread, but 5 of the last 8 years that has been true.

Last year, there were like 4 or 5 6 win teams that qualified but did not receive a bid.

 

[CCSU97]

NEC does Not count as a win....reference below:

1. No more than one win against an FCS team may count toward that win total, and only if the FCS team has awarded at least 90% of the scholarships that FCS rules allowed it to award over the last two years.[2] (Currently, that means that wins against Ivy League, Pioneer Football League, and Northeast Conference teams and Georgetown do not count.) The requirement that the FCS team must have awarded 90% of its allowed scholarships may be waived if a "unique or catastrophic situation" prevented the FCS team from meeting that requirement.[2]

The only time a NEC team has played as a non-counter was CCSU vs. Western Michigan in 2009. Since then NEC teams have been scheduled because the meet the "bowl counter" requirement.

As I stated before, the NEC is now the de-facto FCS opponent for the MAC.

NEC vs. FBS Opponents

Bryant:
2021 – at Akron (MAC)
2020 – at Central Michigan (MAC)

Central Connecticut:
2024 – at UConn (Ind)
2022 – at UConn (Ind)
2020 – at Toledo (MAC)
2019 – at Eastern Michigan (MAC)
2018 – at Ball State (MAC)
2017 – at Syracuse (ACC)
2009 – at Western Michigan (MAC)

Duquesne:
2023 – at West Virginia (Big XII)
2022 – at Hawaii (MWC)
2021 – at Charlotte (C-USA)
2018 - at Massachusetts (Ind); at Hawaii (MWC)
2014 – at Buffalo (MAC)

Long Island:
2022 – at Toledo (MAC)
2021 – at Miami (Ohio) (MAC)

Robert Morris:
2020 – at Bowling Green (MAC)
2019 – at Buffalo (MAC)

Saint Francis:
2022 – at Akron (MAC)
2021 – at Eastern Michigan (MAC)
2020 – at Buffalo (MAC)

Wagner:
2021 - at Buffalo (MAC)
2020 – at Miami (FL) (ACC)
2019 - at Connecticut (AAC); Florida Atlantic (C-USA)
2018 - at Syracuse (ACC)
2017 - at Western Michigan (MAC)
2016 - at Boston College (ACC); at Massachusetts (Ind)
2015 - at Rice (C-USA); at Brigham Young (Ind)
2014 - at Florida International (C-USA)
2013 - at Syracuse (ACC)
2012 - at Florida Atlantic (Sun Belt)

 

[SubbaBub]

Sorry to bust up the NEC pregame show.

I don't want UConn attaching itself to the AAC slate, outside of the money and lack of P5 status. the bowl lineup flat out stunk.

Would much rather roll the dice on filling another conference's unused bid. If UConn' is guaranteed one of the open slots, you would think we'd be at the top of the list for selection. Remember, the NCAA says who is eligible, the bowls make the invites.

We may end up in an AAC bowl, but we'd be more likely to be the AAC teams opponent.

 

[billybud]

Last year's Indy's in bowls...

Army...Armed Forces Bowl

BYU...Idaho Potato Bowl

Notre Dame...Cotton Bowl

Bowl Eligible Teams that did not receive a bowl berth

...La Monroe 6-6
...Miami of Ohio 6-6
...Southern Miss 6-5
...Wyoming 6-6

 

[whaler11]

Last year's Indy's in bowls...

Army...Armed Forces Bowl

BYU...Idaho Potato Bowl

Notre Dame...Cotton Bowl

Bowl Eligible Teams that did not receive a bowl berth

...La Monroe 6-6
...Miami of Ohio 6-6
...Southern Miss 6-5
...Wyoming 6-6

Those three independents all have bowl tie ins. Notre Dame has 10.

 

[billybud]

Those three independents all have bowl tie ins. Notre Dame has 10.

Technically...Army, Liberty, UMass, New Mexico State don't have direct tie ins.

Army is attractive, true.

Independent Bowl Ties, Affiliations

– Army, Liberty, New Mexico State, and UMass don’t have direct bowl ties or affiliations.

 

[whaler11]

Technically...Army, Liberty, UMass, New Mexico State don't have direct tie ins.

Army is attractive, true.

Independent Bowl Ties, Affiliations

– Army, Liberty, New Mexico State, and UMass don’t have direct bowl ties or affiliations.

Maybe it’s a. new deal but think Army if they win 6 goes directly to AFB.

 

[huskyrob1]

Ultimately if UConn gets to 6 wins and there are open bowl slots, they have to be selected ahead of teams with losing records, regardless of negotiated tie-ins

What if they get 8 wins? Does Aresco jump into Lake Ponchartrain?

 

[billybud]

Maybe it’s a. new deal but think Army if they win 6 goes directly to AFB.

Army, Navy, AAC, Big Ten, and MWC are tied in....

In the last five Armed Forces Bowls...Navy has played once and Army twice.

For 2019..it is planned to be Big Ten vs MWC.

 

[whaler11]

Army, Navy, AAC, Big Ten, and MWC are tied in....

In the last five Armed Forces Bowls...Navy has played once and Army twice.

For 2019..it is planned to be Big Ten vs MWC.

According to McMurphy Army has the same handshake deal with ESPN that BYU has starting in the cycle that starts 2020.

 

[billybud]

McMurphy eh?

The Big 12 just signed, in June, a reup of their rotation in the Armed Forces Bowl...

https://www.armedforcesbowl.com/media/armed-forces-bowl-renews-rotating-partnership-with-big-12

This year the rotation is MWC and Big Ten.

FORT WORTH, Texas (May 23, 2019) – The 17th edition of the Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl will be played on Saturday, Jan. 4, 2020 with kickoff set for 10:30 a.m. CT at TCU’s Amon G. Carter Stadium in Fort Worth, Texas, on ESPN.

The game is slated to feature schools from the Mountain West Conference and Big Ten Conference.

https://www.armedforcesbowl.com/media/17th-annual-lockheed-martin-armed-forces-bowl-will-be-played-saturday-january-4-2020

Interestingly...Navy signed the rotation before joining the AAC...do not know how that has changed things.

 

[SU1968]

Are you guys conflating the Military Bowl with the Armed Forces Bowl?

 

[billybud]

Are you guys conflating the Military Bowl with the Armed Forces Bowl?

Don't think that Army has ever played in the Military Bowl...

Which is now a ACC-AAC tie in bowl...

MILITARY BOWL EXTENDS PARTNERSHIP WITH ACC AND THE AMERICAN | Military Bowl

The Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman, benefiting USO of Metropolitan Washington-Baltimore, today announced that it has extended its partnership w ...

militarybowl.org

Navy has played in 3 of the 11 Military Bowls, Air Force 1, Army 0.

 

[SwingDog]

Yes, I do care about bowl games and am hopeful the Huskies will get to (and win) one soon!

 

[huskymedic]

Liberty enters bowl agreement with ESPN Events for upcoming bowl cycle

>>Liberty announced Monday that ESPN can select the Flames to play in six bowl games for the 2020-to-2025 bowl cycle: the Boca Raton Bowl, Camellia Bowl, Famous Idaho Potato Bowl, Frisco Bowl, Myrtle Beach Bowl and New Mexico Bowl.

The Flames can be placed in one of those bowl games if either conference tied into those bowls does not have enough teams to fill their respective bowl slots.<<

 

[Exit 4]

Hmmm, wonder what that agreement looks like? Perhaps a reduced payout? Application fee? Processing fee? Could be some interesting nuggets in a contract like that.