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Do We Care About Bowl Games?

I actually am not so worried about this. If we win we will make a bowl game. The NCAA rule is that 5-7 teams can only go if no 6-6 or better teams and the PAC has a rule banning its 5-7 teams. Add the total number of slots and I think we are pretty attractive.
 
Woof 101 said:
I personally can't remember a team ever turning down a bowl offer and if there were any the number has to be low.
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It's not frequent, but there have been a couple:

Louisiana Tech - 2012
Missouri - 2015
Texas - 2016 (not certain if they received one that year, but they announced preemptively they would decline)
 
Yes and I would not worry about not getting invitations if we get bowl eligible. There are so many bowl games even 5-7 teams occasionally sneak in.
 
businesslawyer said:
Good God, yes, of course it matters. If you're a player, do you want to look forward to having a bowl game at the end of your season or don't you? And if you think the answer is of course you do, the next question is how in the world not being able to offer that to recruits isn't a huge disadvantage.

And that's before talking about getting thousands of well off and dedicated boosters travelling and drinking in one place for a game where you can hit them up for money.
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And the swag bag for the players. Four bowl games in a career and you have a bunch of cool stuff.
 
Per Wiki - It appears that last season was the 3rd in the past 8 where all bowl slots were filled with eligible (6-6) teams. A handful of teams actually had 6 wins and were left out last season.

BYU has its own bowl (Hawaiian) should they be bowl eligible, but I wouldn't think that's on the table for UConn.

Best case would be finishing over .500 and filling in an eligible spot or (pipe dream) getting a deal with a league that Fox has a stake in and saying if you don't fill this with an eligible team we'd take UConn. Which I'd think the bowl and TV would perhaps prefer to a MAC or CUSA team filling in?
 
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There were new bowls added this year as well.. even more spots will need to be filled.
 
I think ND preemptively declined a bowl game in Weis's final year as well, because they were about to fire him and everyone knew it.
 
billybud said:
Dude? Internet tough guy talk?
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Woof 101 said:
NO ATTACK RST...you could have made this a poll and only needed a yes box. While I agree many bowl games are money losers there are many peripheral benefits of going to a bowl. Many above have already stated the obvious.
I personally can't remember a team ever turning down a bowl offer and if there were any the number has to be low. This from writer Jonathan Crowl 2014.
The important point is that schools continue to accept bowl invites because of the benefits they do see: the national TV exposure (a huge boon for smaller programs), the slight recruiting edge, and the excitement a bowl berth can stir in a fan base.
Kind of hits / fits home here.....
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Yeah, but actually looking for discussion. So far what I have heard are the extra practice and recruiting. Of course, neither helped much in Disco's final year

I wasn't looking at it from the fan's perspective. And the TV thing doesn't really resonate unless the bowl is a major one. A TV broadcast of a minor bowl on an obscure cable or streaming outlet doesn't do much for image.
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
Per Wiki - It appears that last season was the 3rd in the past 8 where all bowl slots were filled with eligible (6-6) teams. A handful of teams actually had 6 wins and were left out last season.

BYU has its own bowl (Hawaiian) should they be bowl eligible, but I wouldn't think that's on the table for UConn.

Best case would be finishing over .500 and filling in an eligible spot or (pipe dream) getting a deal with a league that Fox has a stake in and saying if you don't fill this with an eligible team we'd take UConn. Which I'd think the bowl and TV would perhaps prefer to a MAC or CUSA team filling in?
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IMO I’m a bit disappointed AD David Benedict was unable to negotiate us getting a back up slot in the AAC lineup. I wonder if it was on the table
 
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whaler11 said:
FWIW pretty sure the NEC now counts towards 6.
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At this point every NEC team, with the exception of Sacred Heart, have FBS opponents scheduled and are a “bowl counter” win.

The NEC has somewhat become the FCS opponent of choice for MAC teams.
 
NEC does Not count as a win....reference below:

  1. No more than one win against an FCS team may count toward that win total, and only if the FCS team has awarded at least 90% of the scholarships that FCS rules allowed it to award over the last two years.[2] (Currently, that means that wins against Ivy League, Pioneer Football League, and Northeast Conference teams and Georgetown do not count.) The requirement that the FCS team must have awarded 90% of its allowed scholarships may be waived if a "unique or catastrophic situation" prevented the FCS team from meeting that requirement.[2]
 
billybud said:
NEC does Not count as a win....reference below:

  1. No more than one win against an FCS team may count toward that win total, and only if the FCS team has awarded at least 90% of the scholarships that FCS rules allowed it to award over the last two years.[2] (Currently, that means that wins against Ivy League, Pioneer Football League, and Northeast Conference teams and Georgetown do not count.) The requirement that the FCS team must have awarded 90% of its allowed scholarships may be waived if a "unique or catastrophic situation" prevented the FCS team from meeting that requirement.[2]
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your source is old champ
 
billybud said:
2018-19 season Champ...got a update?
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yeah nec games count. thats why nec teams are now on FBS schedules. uconn opens with wagner and they just signed a series with Central - they didnt schedule the NEC when they didn’t count.
 
LOL...show me any reference...other than your surmise....

They aren't and weren't last year.
 
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billybud said:
LOL...show me any reference...other than your surmise....

They aren't and weren't last year.
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I asked the question nicely because I already knew the answer. Feel free to be wrong on this - your motivation for being here doesn’t even make any sense to me. I’m sure all the teams that schedule NEC teams don’t know but your wikipedia link does.

you might note that the guy with an NEC school avatar also knows...
 
NEC needs to award 56.7 scholarships to make 90% of the 63 available for FCS.

Wagner has 59...they make it.
 
whaler11 said:
I asked the question nicely because I already knew the answer. Feel free to be wrong on this - your motivation for being here doesn’t even make any sense to me. I’m sure all the teams that schedule NEC teams don’t know but your wikipedia link does.

you might note that the guy with an NEC school avatar also knows...
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Sooo...you can't answer..for all of the conference.

Wagner does count...they have above the 90% level..

And do all NEC teams schedule FBS teams ?.....
 
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billybud said:
NEC does Not count as a win....reference below:

  1. No more than one win against an FCS team may count toward that win total, and only if the FCS team has awarded at least 90% of the scholarships that FCS rules allowed it to award over the last two years.[2] (Currently, that means that wins against Ivy League, Pioneer Football League, and Northeast Conference teams and Georgetown do not count.) The requirement that the FCS team must have awarded 90% of its allowed scholarships may be waived if a "unique or catastrophic situation" prevented the FCS team from meeting that requirement.[2]
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From 2013
 
billybud said:
Sooo...you can't answer..for all of the conference.

Wagner does count...they have above the 90% level..
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lol the guy said maybe Sacred Heart doesn’t.

Sorry if there is one school that doesn’t count.
 
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"the guy"...said maybe..

OK...But Duquesne, entering 2018 season had not kicked up from 45 yet...can't find current info...
 
uconnphil2016 said:
Aren’t there usually more bowls than eligible teams?
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I posted it in a different thread, but 5 of the last 8 years that has been true.

Last year, there were like 4 or 5 6 win teams that qualified but did not receive a bid.
 
billybud said:
NEC does Not count as a win....reference below:

  1. No more than one win against an FCS team may count toward that win total, and only if the FCS team has awarded at least 90% of the scholarships that FCS rules allowed it to award over the last two years.[2] (Currently, that means that wins against Ivy League, Pioneer Football League, and Northeast Conference teams and Georgetown do not count.) The requirement that the FCS team must have awarded 90% of its allowed scholarships may be waived if a "unique or catastrophic situation" prevented the FCS team from meeting that requirement.[2]
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The only time a NEC team has played as a non-counter was CCSU vs. Western Michigan in 2009. Since then NEC teams have been scheduled because the meet the "bowl counter" requirement.

As I stated before, the NEC is now the de-facto FCS opponent for the MAC.

NEC vs. FBS Opponents

Bryant:
2021 – at Akron (MAC)
2020 – at Central Michigan (MAC)

Central Connecticut:
2024 – at UConn (Ind)
2022 – at UConn (Ind)
2020 – at Toledo (MAC)
2019 – at Eastern Michigan (MAC)
2018 – at Ball State (MAC)
2017 – at Syracuse (ACC)
2009 – at Western Michigan (MAC)

Duquesne:
2023 – at West Virginia (Big XII)
2022 – at Hawaii (MWC)
2021 – at Charlotte (C-USA)
2018 - at Massachusetts (Ind); at Hawaii (MWC)
2014 – at Buffalo (MAC)

Long Island:
2022 – at Toledo (MAC)
2021 – at Miami (Ohio) (MAC)

Robert Morris:
2020 – at Bowling Green (MAC)
2019 – at Buffalo (MAC)

Saint Francis:
2022 – at Akron (MAC)
2021 – at Eastern Michigan (MAC)
2020 – at Buffalo (MAC)

Wagner:
2021 - at Buffalo (MAC)
2020 – at Miami (FL) (ACC)
2019 - at Connecticut (AAC); Florida Atlantic (C-USA)
2018 - at Syracuse (ACC)
2017 - at Western Michigan (MAC)
2016 - at Boston College (ACC); at Massachusetts (Ind)
2015 - at Rice (C-USA); at Brigham Young (Ind)
2014 - at Florida International (C-USA)
2013 - at Syracuse (ACC)
2012 - at Florida Atlantic (Sun Belt)
 
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Sorry to bust up the NEC pregame show.

I don't want UConn attaching itself to the AAC slate, outside of the money and lack of P5 status. the bowl lineup flat out stunk.

Would much rather roll the dice on filling another conference's unused bid. If UConn' is guaranteed one of the open slots, you would think we'd be at the top of the list for selection. Remember, the NCAA says who is eligible, the bowls make the invites.

We may end up in an AAC bowl, but we'd be more likely to be the AAC teams opponent.
 
Last year's Indy's in bowls...

Army...Armed Forces Bowl

BYU...Idaho Potato Bowl

Notre Dame...Cotton Bowl

Bowl Eligible Teams that did not receive a bowl berth

...La Monroe 6-6
...Miami of Ohio 6-6
...Southern Miss 6-5
...Wyoming 6-6
 
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