Do this and get into a power 4!

[HuskyHawk]

True.

We also aren't homeless because Randy Edsall decided to cancel football during Covid, but neither decision makes us look particularly serious or committed about playing football.

If we go back to the early ACC invite, when Pitt was chosen over UConn, most of us blame BC. But I think the truth is that Pitt had a football culture that appealed to FSU, Miami, Clemson, GT etc. and UConn didn't. Not that we couldn't build one, but we didn't already have one. Pitt had Marino, Dorsett, and enough history. So did BC, however UConn fans view it now.

I think it still haunts us when either the ACC or Big XII considers UConn. Not enough people in Storrs wake up Saturday morning and go "yeah, it's game day!" There aren't many home football games, it's supposed to be a big deal. Even in Lawrence it was.

 

[billybud]

UConn needs current football success to wipe out the perception created by past seasons...the last ten seasons, UConn went 1-13 against the ACC...in last season's 9 win season there was a glimmer of rebound, although there were still the losses to Duke, Wake, and Syracuse.

Once good seasons come regularly, a team can quickly rebound, in perception, from a bad season. Become a desired TV match...Wins are not discounted. The ACC football schools may begin to see UConn as more than a great basketball power.

 

[CTBballfan243]

If we go back to the early ACC invite, when Pitt was chosen over UConn, most of us blame BC. But I think the truth is that Pitt had a football culture that appealed to FSU, Miami, Clemson, GT etc. and UConn didn't. Not that we couldn't build one, but we didn't already have one. Pitt had Marino, Dorsett, and enough history. So did BC, however UConn fans view it now.

I think it still haunts us when either the ACC or Big XII considers UConn. Not enough people in Storrs wake up Saturday morning and go "yeah, it's game day!" There aren't many home football games, it's supposed to be a big deal. Even in Lawrence it was.

No one is waking up in the fall on a Saturday morning up in Chestnut Hill saying, “Yeah, it’s game day!” They’re saying “Yeah, big hockey game tonight!”

 

[CL82]

If we go back to the early ACC invite, when Pitt was chosen over UConn, most of us blame BC. But I think the truth is that Pitt had a football culture that appealed to FSU, Miami, Clemson, GT etc. and UConn didn't. Not that we couldn't build one, but we didn't already have one. Pitt had Marino, Dorsett, and enough history. So did BC, however UConn fans view it now.

I think it still haunts us when either the ACC or Big XII considers UConn. Not enough people in Storrs wake up Saturday morning and go "yeah, it's game day!" There aren't many home football games, it's supposed to be a big deal. Even in Lawrence it was.

The Boston College athletic Director said that Connecticut was acceptable, but that BC "wanted to be the New England school". That's not revisionism that's a contemporaneous statement by a person in a position to know. That would seem reasonably credible. Arguably, attempts to change that narrative now, would be revisionism.

Could not agree with you more that we need a passionate fan base in Storrs, but it it is harder to be passionate on game day when all the festivities are a half hours bus ride away. Every year that continues, is another graduating class that we lose as potential fans. . I'm not saying we should bulldoze the rent today, but, those things are fairly indisputably, true, and the sooner we fix them the better.

 

[HuskyHawk]

No one is waking up in the fall on a Saturday morning up in Chestnut Hill saying, “Yeah, it’s game day!” They’re saying “Yeah, big hockey game tonight!”

BC isn't FSU or Oklahoma or Michigan, I'll grant you that. But they averaged 40k at home last year. There are more football than hockey fans, you just don't need many hockey fans. I know a lot of BC alumni.

 

[KryHavok]

UConn needs current football success to wipe out the perception created by past seasons...the last ten seasons, UConn went 1-13 against the ACC...in last season's 9 win season there was a glimmer of rebound, although there were still the losses to Duke, Wake, and Syracuse.

Once good seasons come regularly, a team can quickly rebound, in perception, from a bad season. Become a desired TV match...Wins are not discounted. The ACC football schools may begin to see UConn as more than a great basketball power.

Your conference will never, NEVER, see or value UConn beyond being a school that once shared ties with several of your current conference members. Cal, Stanford, and SMU are not football powers (or basketball powers since the topic came up), and they were snatched up by your conference right quick without so much as UConn being an afterthought.

I agree with your statement that UConn needs football success, which we had during REv1, but it will be hard to get that against your conference mates now that Patterson's quitting has confirmed how utterly biased your conference's officiating has been (especially against UConn, and I go back to stupid calls against UConn during the NC State game a few years back). I've got nothing against you billybud, but your conference is a garbage hotbed that is treading water and spiting UConn because it can't admit it made mistakes by overlooking UConn in the past (taking Loserville) and it believes it can stay together despite FSU's and Clemson's little tantrums.

I've been adamant in saying your conference is not and never will be in our future...it would have helped us immensely had we been taken instead of Loserville, and we would've been a solid addition considering our overall athletic performances and academics, but we stand at a situation where if the Big12 doesn't invite UConn in the next several years, our football program is cooked. I hate your conference with such disdain that it makes my hatred of the Dallas Cowboys, New York Yankees, and Notre Dame football seem like mild annoyance. I think your conference sees UConn with the same contempt I see your conference...UConn having winning seasons will absolutely not change that mindset.

 

[cellocgg]

I find it so funny how outsiders love to throw the "win football games" argument as a prerequisite for UConn/P4 discussion

During the last CR wave we were coming off two March Madness titles as well as a BCS NY6 appearance. How much did Football success help back then?

We got screwed over then as we are now. It was never about Football success

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

BC isn't FSU or Oklahoma or Michigan, I'll grant you that. But they averaged 40k at home last year. There are more football than hockey fans, you just don't need many hockey fans. I know a lot of BC alumni.

My sympathy to you.

 

[Skiblets]

My sympathy to you.

I’m married to one whose father also went there. They don’t like it when i refer to them as the Angry Chickens!

 

[billybud]

One might also ask why the Big 12 didn't come calling when they added UCF, Colorado, Utah, and Houston..geography ?

While fairly western, the Big 12 does stretch to Orlando, West Virginia, and Cincinnati.

At one time there was talk of adding Gonzaga and UConn. Would make the Big 12 THE basketball conference...the only thing I ever read is that it died on the vine due to inability to wrangle enough conference votes.

 

[HuskyHawk]

One might also ask why the Big 12 didn't come calling when they added UCF, Colorado, Utah, and Houston..geography ?

While fairly western, the Big 12 does stretch to Orlando, West Virginia, and Cincinnati.

At one time there was talk of adding Gonzaga and UConn. Would make the Big 12 THE basketball conference...the only thing I ever read is that it died on the vine due to inability to wrangle enough conference votes.

It died because the Pac dissolved. The Big XI always wanted the Arizona schools. Going way back. It clearly also wanted Colorado back in the fold. It is/was the old SWC + Big 8, "south west" is core to the identity. Once the Utah schools were coming too there was no room.

UCF and Houston were added earlier. Had the Big XII known the Pac would dissolve, do they add the schools the did two years before? Not sure. But that got them the contract.

The only thing that really makes sense now are the ACC and Big XII exchanging some members. WVU and Cinci to ACC with UCF. SMU, Cal, Stanford to Big XII.