Diggins, McBride and Dolson Cut

[UConnCat]

Of course for Muffet to be the coach, she would first have to agree to work for USA basketball, something she has never done I believe.

Muffet was an asst coach for Team USA South in the 1993 Olympic Festival which was an event the US Olympic Committee used to host in off-Olympic years. So, technically she did coach once for USA basketball but it was not an international competition and your overall point is correct. I recall reading that Muffet valued her time off more than coaching USA basketball which is very reasonable given the demands of coaching college and USA basketball.

 

[meyers7]

Deleted post.

If you like to collect examples of childish name calling, gotta act fast.

Ah, once again I'm too slow. I need them for my book I'm writing "Oh Yea, Well Your Mom Wears Army Boots".

 

[UcMiami]

Muffet was an asst coach for Team USA South in the 1993 Olympic Festival which was an event the US Olympic Committee used to host in off-Olympic years. So, technically she did coach once for USA basketball but it was not an international competition and your overall point is correct. I recall reading that Muffet valued her time off more than coaching USA basketball which is very reasonable given the demands of coaching college and USA basketball.

Thanks for the correction. Hadn't realized she had ever worked for USA. And I have no problem with her choice - it is a large commitment of time, though nothing like the time commitment that Tara was required to put in for her stint. My point being that they usually (but certainly not always) like to work with someone below HC of the national team, before turning the program over to coach.

 

[Striper69]

Not quite true. Dupree is still an Olympian, as is Penny Taylor. And Dewanna Bonner never met a shot she didn't like. ( i.e. she's a gunner.) Add in DT, and that doesn't leave a lot of shots for "you know who."

It's called "balance" which is why they won the championship.

Also why the Dream lost early- they depended too much on Angel...

 

[Beemer]

It's called "balance" which is why they won the championship.

Also why the Dream lost early- they depended too much on Angel...

I think part of that is because in the past Angel had been known to go into a snit when the offense was run through anyone else but her. I think she improved in that respect this past season.

 

[Striper69]

I think part of that is because in the past Angel had been known to go into a snit when the offense was run through anyone else but her. I think she improved in that respect this past season.

I like the fact that she wants the ball in critical situations but she needs to realize that the other team knows that too. If they're double or triple teaming her that means two or three of her teammates will be open.

Until she changes Atlanta will not get over that hump. I think the Sun will take over the East next season with KML...

 

[ChicagoGG]

I doubt Angel would have a snit around Geno, she knows that does not fly with him from prior USA team experience. She did whatever he needed from her the last time and I am sure she will do so again. I must confess, I thought that what little I did see of Ms. Diggins this time around, that her demeanor was much improved from her ND days. (and I am now choking from that admission, but true is true...) Anyway, good luck to the whole team against the Czechs today in Prague, I am off to the stat thread to see what is going on. Toodles.

 

[Wbbfan1]

Most likely KML ends up in Seattle since they have the 1st pick in the Draft. Tulsa has the 2nd pick, so don't see how KML ends up with the Sun unless there's a trade.

 

[Beemer]

I like the fact that she wants the ball in critical situations but she needs to realize that the other team knows that too. If they're double or triple teaming her that means two or three of her teammates will be open.

Until she changes Atlanta will not get over that hump. I think the Sun will take over the East next season with KML...

I'm looking forward to seeing Chelsea Gray in a Sun uniform myself.

 

[Beemer]

Most likely KML ends up in Seattle since they have the 1st pick in the Draft. Tulsa has the 2nd pick, so don't see how KML ends up with the Sun unless there's a trade.

I had forgotten about that. The Sun have the 3rd & 4th picks in the next draft. And given the low opinion many have of the next draft class the Sun might have to over pay to get that #1 pick, which just about everybody believes will be KML. Decisions, decisions...

 

[easttexastrash]

I doubt Angel would have a snit around Geno, she knows that does not fly with him from prior USA team experience. She did whatever he needed from her the last time and I am sure she will do so again. I must confess, I thought that what little I did see of Ms. Diggins this time around, that her demeanor was much improved from her ND days. (and I am now choking from that admission, but true is true...) Anyway, good luck to the whole team against the Czechs today in Prague, I am off to the stat thread to see what is going on. Toodles.

I don't see anything that Diggins does that most WNBA players don't do. Whalen and McCarville come to mind, as they have NEVER committed a foul and make those faces of disbelief every time they are called for a foul. Complaining about the refs is certainly not isolated to Diggins.

That is one of the things that I like about Stewart and EDD, for example. They just get back to work and don't make all the faces and rant and rave like some other players do. Bonner is another one that just drives me crazy with her hysterics when she is called for a foul.

 

[Beemer]

I don't see anything that Diggins does that most WNBA players don't do. Whalen and McCarville come to mind, as they have NEVER committed a foul and make those faces of disbelief every time they are called for a foul. Complaining about the refs is certainly not isolated to Diggins.

That is one of the things that I like about Stewart and EDD, for example. They just get back to work and don't make all the faces and rant and rave like some other players do. Bonner is another one that just drives me crazy with her hysterics when she is called for a foul.

That seems to be a trend in all sports- whining to the officials after every.single.call. I wish the officials would call a personal foul for unsportsmanlike conduct the next time someone whines. I think that would put a stop to a lot of it.

 

[ChicagoGG]

I don't see anything that Diggins does that most WNBA players don't do. Whalen and McCarville come to mind, as they have NEVER committed a foul and make those faces of disbelief every time they are called for a foul. Complaining about the refs is certainly not isolated to Diggins.

That is one of the things that I like about Stewart and EDD, for example. They just get back to work and don't make all the faces and rant and rave like some other players do. Bonner is another one that just drives me crazy with her hysterics when she is called for a foul.

ETT - I was speaking of Skylar's improved demeanor since her ND days, when she was the Princess of Pout. I was not speaking of her current behavior, except to say it was an improvement.

 

[easttexastrash]

ETT - I was speaking of Skylar's improved demeanor since her ND days, when she was the Princess of Pout. I was not speaking of her current behavior, except to say it was an improvement.

Understood and I agree with you. I am a big fan of Diggins and her college demeanor did not really bother me.

 

[ChicagoGG]

Understood and I agree with you. I am a big fan of Diggins and her college demeanor did not really bother me.

Thanks for the reply, but please realize that many on this board WERE bothered by her behavior in college. And no, I am not speaking of the losses to ND, but by her all around demeanor for her college days.

 

[RadyLady]

Two comments:

1. I am one visitor-friendly UConn fan who does not mind ETT's enthusiasm for Griner. And I agree with him and others that the offense should flow through her, and she should shoot until the other team contorts its defense to stop her. I expect Tina to play the 4 next to her, and get a lot of points on putbacks.

2. I cannot imagine any criticism that can be made of Skylar Diggins's style, attitude, basketball approach, or personality that would not apply equally to Diana. Diana involved her teammates, but so did Skylar at Notre Dame.

Without trying to sound offensive please take a minute and read the boneyard rules.

 

[RadyLady]

I also cannot stand THE ND DIVA!

May iI respectfully take issue with the multitude of Diggins haters.

Usually, despite rabid approval of all things UConn, this generally is a pretty fair and knowledgable board.

To chastise Diggins for her charisma and over-the-top demonstrations
is to completely ignore a penetrating BB mind.
Who gets the max out of somewhat limited pure physical gifts.
An unyielding competitor.
A young woman who went back to the drawing board after a difficult first pro season
and found a way to rejigger her game and was hugely successful (that Stef can do the same),

Sure , she's not perfect: dribbles a little to much…fine on the Tulsa offense
Pouts a little when she's down, the perfect front runner
A streaky shooter who can be off.
Better at going for the steal on D than actually perfect man defense.

Nevertheless, she is a monster competitor, with the game on the line, you're confident with the ball in her hands

And she is going to have a wonderful pro (and yes) Olympic career.
She was a major contributor in several of the most painful Ct. losses in history
I still remember( perhaps the first loss), her darting behind screens at the top of the key
and no one could stop her, even though it seemed that the whole was unfolding in slow motion.

I think to lump her with Muffit's shenanigans is unfair.
Sure, her end of game theatrics at our expense were not in the best of taste

But, she earned it and we have been not exactly innocent of the same, (think Dee).

One man's ceiling is another man's floor...

 

[RadyLady]

If I were a rich man.. la da da da da da de.... If I were 6 inches taller and had basketball talent I would be a wealthy man.... The main thing is Muffet is not the National Coach... they tend to go with winners for that. Geno has won 7 national titles since Notre Dame won their one..... Not lets see what happens when we add some substance to that flame...

This thread has been a very interesting read I must say...

Shana Tova everyone!

 

[mhshuskies]

Two comments:

1. I am one visitor-friendly UConn fan who does not mind ETT's enthusiasm for Griner. And I agree with him and others that the offense should flow through her, and she should shoot until the other team contorts its defense to stop her. I expect Tina to play the 4 next to her, and get a lot of points on putbacks.

2. I cannot imagine any criticism that can be made of Skylar Diggins's style, attitude, basketball approach, or personality that would not apply equally to Diana. Diana involved her teammates, but so did Skylar at Notre Dame.

SHAME, SHAME, SHAME ON YOU! For eluding to Skylar (or any nd player) being anywhere near the quality of player of D!

 

[easttexastrash]

Thanks for the reply, but please realize that many on this board WERE bothered by her behavior in college. And no, I am not speaking of the losses to ND, but by her all around demeanor for her college days.

I liked her college days...she always lost to Baylor.

 

[arty155]

... I cannot imagine any criticism that can be made of Skylar Diggins's style, attitude, basketball approach, or personality...

SHAME, SHAME, SHAME ON YOU! For eluding to Skylar...

Is that where Joe ran off to, this time??? Still one of our Boneyard's most elusive characters...

...Shana Tova everyone!

No, I'm pretty sure ND is NOT recruiting her. But I think I've heard her name mentioned at Hofstra.

 

[doggydaddy]

This thread has been a very interesting read I must say...

Shana Tova everyone!

Shana Tova! Heading to Florida to spend the holiday with my grandkids.

 

[ChicagoGG]

This thread has been a very interesting read I must say...

Shana Tova everyone!

What Rady said. LeShana Tova Tikatevu to all! (May you be inscribed in the Book of Life and have a good year)

 

[ChicagoGG]

Shana Tova! Heading to Florida to spend the holiday with my grandkids.

Happy New Year, DD - travel safe and have a great time!

 

[meyers7]

Shana Tova! Heading to Florida to spend the holiday with my grandkids.

Enjoy. Have a Joyous New Year.

 

[JoePgh]

Without trying to sound offensive please take a minute and read the boneyard rules.

I confess to being puzzled by this comment. As a result of that perplexity, I did in fact just re-read the BoneYard rules, including the section at the bottom entitled "Not Rules, But ...". That section contains admonitions to the effect that posters here should not expect other posters, particularly those who are enthusiastic UConn fans (as I consider myself to be), to be objective or even to try to be objective. And I don't. However, I try to be objective in my own posts, and I believe I have a right to comment when (IMHO) other posters are not applying the same yardstick when judging opposing players that they use in judging UConn players.

Thus my comparison of Diana and Skylar. No one, especially on this board, is required to judge one of those players by the same standards that they apply to the other. But I try to do that, and I cannot distinguish one from the other in "style, attitude, basketball approach, or personality", which were the dimensions of comparison cited in my original comment. I can certainly distinguish them in basketball talent and basketball accomplishment -- in those dimensions Diana is clearly and incomparably better than Skylar. But not in the other behavioral dimensions cited in my previous post.

Are you or other posters suggesting that greater basketball talent or achievement justifies boorish behavior that would not be acceptable in someone of lesser talent? I don't think you really want to endorse that proposition. Actually I don't think either player's behavior is boorish or unacceptable -- just hypercompetitive and "in your face" to basketball rivals (Diana to those in orange; Skylar to those in flag blue). And I think it is beneficial to the game to have some star players with those personality traits.

But perhaps I have not succeeded in identifying the transgression of Boneyard rules or etiquette that you wrote about.

 

[VAMike23]

I, too, am puzzled by the reference/appeal to the BY Rules above.

?

 

[mhshuskies]

I confess to being puzzled by this comment. As a result of that perplexity, I did in fact just re-read the BoneYard rules, including the section at the bottom entitled "Not Rules, But ...". That section contains admonitions to the effect that posters here should not expect other posters, particularly those who are enthusiastic UConn fans (as I consider myself to be), to be objective or even to try to be objective. And I don't. However, I try to be objective in my own posts, and I believe I have a right to comment when (IMHO) other posters are not applying the same yardstick when judging opposing players that they use in judging UConn players.

Thus my comparison of Diana and Skylar. No one, especially on this board, is required to judge one of those players by the same standards that they apply to the other. But I try to do that, and I cannot distinguish one from the other in "style, attitude, basketball approach, or personality", which were the dimensions of comparison cited in my original comment. I can certainly distinguish them in basketball talent and basketball accomplishment -- in those dimensions Diana is clearly and incomparably better than Skylar. But not in the other behavioral dimensions cited in my previous post.

Are you or other posters suggesting that greater basketball talent or achievement justifies boorish behavior that would not be acceptable in someone of lesser talent? I don't think you really want to endorse that proposition. Actually I don't think either player's behavior is boorish or unacceptable -- just hypercompetitive and "in your face" to basketball rivals (Diana to those in orange; Skylar to those in flag blue). And I think it is beneficial to the game to have some star players with those personality traits.

But perhaps I have not succeeded in identifying the transgression of Boneyard rules or etiquette that you wrote about.

It was a tongue in cheek comment. All in fun.

 

[HuskyNan]

I confess to being puzzled by this comment. As a result of that perplexity, I did in fact just re-read the BoneYard rules, including the section at the bottom entitled "Not Rules, But ...". That section contains admonitions to the effect that posters here should not expect other posters, particularly those who are enthusiastic UConn fans (as I consider myself to be), to be objective or even to try to be objective. And I don't. However, I try to be objective in my own posts, and I believe I have a right to comment when (IMHO) other posters are not applying the same yardstick when judging opposing players that they use in judging UConn players.

Thus my comparison of Diana and Skylar. No one, especially on this board, is required to judge one of those players by the same standards that they apply to the other. But I try to do that, and I cannot distinguish one from the other in "style, attitude, basketball approach, or personality", which were the dimensions of comparison cited in my original comment. I can certainly distinguish them in basketball talent and basketball accomplishment -- in those dimensions Diana is clearly and incomparably better than Skylar. But not in the other behavioral dimensions cited in my previous post.

Are you or other posters suggesting that greater basketball talent or achievement justifies boorish behavior that would not be acceptable in someone of lesser talent? I don't think you really want to endorse that proposition. Actually I don't think either player's behavior is boorish or unacceptable -- just hypercompetitive and "in your face" to basketball rivals (Diana to those in orange; Skylar to those in flag blue). And I think it is beneficial to the game to have some star players with those personality traits.

But perhaps I have not succeeded in identifying the transgression of Boneyard rules or etiquette that you wrote about.

I have no issues with your posts and I'm sure JS or Biff would have spoken up if they did. I appreciate your courteous and measured response as well.

 

[warbler1055]

I don't see anything that Diggins does that most WNBA players don't do. Whalen and McCarville come to mind, as they have NEVER committed a foul and make those faces of disbelief every time they are called for a foul. Complaining about the refs is certainly not isolated to Diggins.

That is one of the things that I like about Stewart and EDD, for example. They just get back to work and don't make all the faces and rant and rave like some other players do. Bonner is another one that just drives me crazy with her hysterics when she is called for a foul.

Exactly my feeling about Bonner. She also missed shots and acted surprised!!! Consistently!!!