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ctfjr said:
How is the risk any different playing here?
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I just mean Seattle is her main team, if it was an injury that happened during the WNBA to me it would feel different I don’t know how to explain it, it’s like when teams sometimes don’t want there players playing in the olympics are something like that because of risk of injury’s that can affect there team if that makes sense.
 
Jlong231 said:
I just mean Seattle is her main team, if it was an injury that happened during the WNBA to me it would feel different I don’t know how to explain it, it’s like when teams sometimes don’t want there players playing in the olympics are something like that because of risk of injury’s that can affect there team if that makes sense.
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I think her main team is the one paying her the most for the fewest games. That isn’t the WNBA.
 
Jlong231 said:
I just mean Seattle is her main team, if it was an injury that happened during the WNBA to me it would feel different I don’t know how to explain it, it’s like when teams sometimes don’t want there players playing in the olympics are something like that because of risk of injury’s that can affect there team if that makes sense.
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Afraid not. WBB players' main teams are the ones they play with during basketball season and make their livings from. Like DT said, "This [Russia, during basketball season] is the real season."
 
uconnfan68 said:
I think her main team is the one paying her the most for the fewest games. That isn’t the WNBA.
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That may be true, but what team ultimately drafted her first, while WNBA may not pay a lot it’s still the athletes main team. I just was saying at the end of the day it’s there choice to go over seas, they don’t technically have to. I guess I’m just thinking it sucks for Seattle who was looking to repeat this year, I get it that majority of these ladies go over seas because it pays them more. Knowing that you play the WNBA season then turn around to go over seas that’s a lot of basketball, so the risk is way higher imo In getting hurt.
 
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j66kicker said:
Afraid not. WBB players' main teams are the ones they play with during basketball season and make their livings from. Like DT said, "This [Russia, during basketball season] is the real season."
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I get it, and to me that’s what sucks about the WNBA, I just mention this in my last post, that’s a lot of basketball to play a WNBA season the turn around and go over seas to play, then back town to start the WNBA season again that’s a lot, and risk of injury becomes way higher to me that takes a grind on your body after awhile right?
 
I found these tweets on twitter, this is ultimately what I was saying

Prayers up for @breannastewart. It’s unfathomable to imagine the wear on WNBA players’ bodies going straight from the season to overseas and back; heartbreaking if this affects her season.


This gruesome Breanna Stewart injury while playing overseas is another example of why we need more investment into the WNBA. These pro players shouldn’t have to play year-round & wear their bodies down + risk further injury while most other pro athletes get an off season to rest
 
The WNBA doesn't generate enough revenue to pay large salaries and until they do the players will opt to go where they get paid well. It's a business, not a social experiment, and the fact American players play here at all is pretty remarkable.

Breanna and the others have a limited number of years to make money playing basketball and Diana Taurasi is a good example of why so many play overseas. If I recall correctly, Diana was making $1.5 Million in Russia while maxed out at a little over $100 K here. Who, in their right mind, wouldn't go overseas for an annual pay differential of that magnitude?
 
Scrutiner said:
The WNBA doesn't generate enough revenue to pay large salaries and until they do the players will opt to go where they get paid well. It's a business, not a social experiment, and the fact American players play here at all is pretty remarkable.

Breanna and the others have a limited number of years to make money playing basketball and Diana Taurasi is a good example of why so many play overseas. If I recall correctly, Diana was making $1.5 Million in Russia while maxed out at a little over $100 K here. Who, in their right mind, wouldn't go overseas for an annual pay differential of that magnitude?
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Oh definitely, which sucks, because they shouldn’t have to, I was literally thinking about this the other day, that’s a lot of basketball WNBA season, overseas, then back down for the start of the new WNBA season, they literally have no break, I mean while 1.5 million is a lot, that to me still isn’t enough for the wear and tear they are putting on there bodies.
 
Some players like Skylar Diggins don't have to go overseas because they make a ton of money from endorsements and brands
 
Jlong231 said:
Oh definitely, which sucks, because they shouldn’t have to, I was literally thinking about this the other day, that’s a lot of basketball WNBA season, overseas, then back down for the start of the new WNBA season, they literally have no break, I mean while 1.5 million is a lot, that to me still isn’t enough for the wear and tear they are putting on there bodies.
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You must be pretty well off then. To most people $1.5 million for 4-5 months is pretty good wages. So if you weren't already wealthy, why wouldn't you just skip the measly $50-100K WNBA summer season and rest up in the summer so you could withstand the wear and tear of the normal basketball season?
 
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Jlong231 said:
That may be true, but what team ultimately drafted her first, while WNBA may not pay a lot it’s still the athletes main team. I just was saying at the end of the day it’s there choice to go over seas, they don’t technically have to. I guess I’m just thinking it sucks for Seattle who was looking to repeat this year, I get it that majority of these ladies go over seas because it pays them more. Knowing that you play the WNBA season then turn around to go over seas that’s a lot of basketball, so the risk is way higher imo In getting hurt.
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You play for two teams. One values you at $100,000 a season, the other at $50,000. So which team are you more obligated to? Which is really your main team? And I say this as a big fan of the Storm, having watched all their games last year and eagerly awaiting this season. I am a fan of women's basketball at college and pro level. I don't watch the men's game at all. Until more fans show up WNBA players will be paid a pittance. Stewie was mvp. I suspect the lowest salaried player in NBA made more. They draw bigger crowds, command more for television rights. UConn's greatest achievement isn't 11 titles themselves, it is the size of the crowd that shows up when they come visiting. Teams that normally play before a few hundred suddenly see packed houses. It is the same with other women team sports. Three years ago in the Women's Pro Softball World Series the two best pitchets in the world, softball or baseball, dueled in two one run games before a tiny crowd. Want our women to stay home--fill the stands, take a friend to a game--women make up 51% of the population. The Midterms showed the effect you can have in politics. Do the same for women's sports. You'll probably have a better time.
 
j66kicker said:
You must be pretty well off then. To most people $1.5 million for 4-5 months is pretty good wages. So if you weren't already wealthy, why wouldn't you just skip the measly $50-100K WNBA summer season and rest up in the summer so you could withstand the wear and tear of the normal basketball season?
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Chance to play in front of family and friends as well as play against the best competition and improve your game, establish your legacy, etc. I'm surprised more players dont sit out or at least take chunks of seasons off like Parker/Angel have done to rest and recuperate.

Sure itd be nice if they made millions like high revenue leagues do, but fact is most players do make enough to live year round off of their 3 month salary which is pretty cool in itself. Plus they have the option to:
1. Play overseas and make big bucks they can live off of potentially for life
2. Train at home and take 9 months off
3. Pursue other career paths like EDD, Diggins, Chiney, Lawson, etc have done

Compared to almost any other women's pro league, WNBA players have an awesome situation for being in their 20s and 30s.
 
j66kicker said:
You must be pretty well off then. To most people $1.5 million for 4-5 months is pretty good wages. So if you weren't already wealthy, why wouldn't you just skip the measly $50-100K WNBA summer season and rest up in the summer so you could withstand the wear and tear of the normal basketball season?
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I mean it’s a lot, but not enough for the amount of basketball there playing, and I ultimately blame the WNBA for that, because I don’t fault these ladies for wanting to make more money to support themselves, and a lot of them do have to, most of these women don’t have the endorsements like skylar were they don’t need to go overseas. Somebody as talented as breanna shouldn’t have to play extra basketball after the WNBA season just to support herself. I hope eventually that the WNBA gets to a place we’re these women don’t have to continue to play overseas right after the season ends.
 
When you consider your livelihood is professional BB, playing over seas is the financial draw that I would pursue, if it was me. If you talk about taking time off to heal, rest and recoup from one season or the other, I would be taking off the WNBA season. If health and rest is my concern, I would save my physical health for the season that pays the most. I understand that these young women love the game and want to play both seasons so they do. For those of you that say they should take off one season or the other, for me it would be taking off the cheapest (talking strictly $$$$) season. If you worked for two different companies during the year, as some do that work seasonal jobs, would you rest during the season that pays the most????? I think not.
My heart breaks for Stewie and I pray for her quick and full recovery. All of us fans will miss her. She'll return and play when and where she wishes. We don't get to second guess her choices as to who and when to play.
 
Jlong231 said:
I mean it’s a lot, but not enough for the amount of basketball there playing, and I ultimately blame the WNBA for that, because I don’t fault these ladies for wanting to make more money to support themselves, and a lot of them do have to, most of these women don’t have the endorsements like skylar were they don’t need to go overseas. Somebody as talented as breanna shouldn’t have to play extra basketball after the WNBA season just to support herself. I hope eventually that the WNBA gets to a place we’re these women don’t have to continue to play overseas right after the season ends.
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I think it is important to the biggest stars to play in the WNBA so they can maintain the USA following they brought with them from college, and develop a brand so they can get shoe contracts and have other commercial opportunities. But that is only for a very small handful of players. The rest need to make a living playing basketball, and you can't do that very well just limiting yourself to playing in the WNBA for a short summer season. Just my opinion/observation.

And you blame the WNBA for the low pay? Half the teams are bleeding money and teams are being sold every year because the owners get weary of subsidizing them. These are big name teams, not just small market teams - New York this year, LA a couple years ago. The WNBA can't set up a shop in the basement and print money. It has to come from the fans - from actually paying to attend the games (1/2 of the meager attendance figures now are from promotional free tickets), and enough watching on TV to get ratings that will actually interest sponsors.
 
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Yes, the big salaries are in the overseas leagues. Yes, WNBA salaries are a pittance in comparison. But those endorsement contracts can be big money. I wonder ... do you think it is perhaps a stipulation of endorsement contracts (Nike, Adidas etc) that these players actually play in the WNBA?
 
CajunHusky said:
Yes, the big salaries are in the overseas leagues. Yes, WNBA salaries are a pittance in comparison. But those endorsement contracts can be big money. I wonder ... do you think it is perhaps a stipulation of endorsement contracts (Nike, Adidas etc) that these players actually play in the WNBA?
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That would make sense. But unless you're Diana Taurasi, Skylar Diggins, Elena Della Donne, etc, the WNBA shoe deals are chump change. When Moriah was drafted by San Antonio she signed with Adidas for something like $25,000.
 
Jlong231 said:
Oh definitely, which sucks, because they shouldn’t have to, I was literally thinking about this the other day, that’s a lot of basketball WNBA season, overseas, then back down for the start of the new WNBA season, they literally have no break, I mean while 1.5 million is a lot, that to me still isn’t enough for the wear and tear they are putting on there bodies.
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So, drop the $1.5M, and stay here for the $100K? Remind me not to ask you about financial advice.
 
j66kicker said:
That would make sense. But unless you're Diana Taurasi, Skylar Diggins, Elena Della Donne, etc, the WNBA shoe deals are chump change. When Moriah was drafted by San Antonio she signed with Adidas for something like $25,000.
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A 25k bonus isn't chump change to most people in their 20s....not sure if it's 25/year or a one time thing, but Mo Jeff is off her rookie contract, so this year she'll likely make six figures in her 3 months season, and if she gets a shoe deal for 25k, that's $125k for a summer's work at 25 years old. Not NBA money but that's a better gig than 99% of other people her age have.
 
Bballnut, I may be wrong, but I think in the WNBA, there are only a few six figure salaries available. I don't think MoJeff will be one of those few six figure contracts.
 
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Rixxx said:
Bballnut, I may be wrong, but I think in the WNBA, there are only a few six figure salaries available. I don't think MoJeff will be one of those few six figure contracts.
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from what I remember and this was a few years ago .... WNBA contracts are strictly controlled; rookies get around 30 to 40k; the MVP gets like 100k and bonuses (All Star, MVP, Champions) are like 2500 to 5000. Team salaries are capped at around 900k.
 
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Rixxx said:
Bballnut, I may be wrong, but I think in the WNBA, there are only a few six figure salaries available. I don't think MoJeff will be one of those few six figure contracts.
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Rookies are around 40-55k, overall average is a little over 70, and max contracts top out around 110/115 I believe....and most teams have several max contract players. It isnt reserved just for the best of the best. Once players are off their rookie contracts (3 years) they usually earn anywhere from 75-max for the summer. There was an unofficial report that came out last summer showing facts and figures, but players like Sancho Lyttle and Layshia Clarendon were hauling in 6 figures despite having smaller roles on their team. Mo Jeff would definitely command a 6 figure contract.
 
Husky pride said:
I hope and pray Stewie has only a minor injury. This is, however, the travesty associated with highly caliber, professional Women’s Basketball players. To gain financially for their enormous talent they have to play outside the U.S. with a schedule that spans practically year- round. Their bodies aren’t always able to weather the toll it takes on them and serious injuries result. It’s high time that they start being compensated by the WNBA commensurate with their outstanding athletic abilities.
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I honestly don't know the answer to this question, but does the WNBA generate sufficient revenue to do that?
 
The Courant is reporting this morning it is a ruptured achilles and she will have surgery this week.

Mike Anthony: Breanna Stewart’s injury an example of the offseason peril WNBA players face

Since I had a total achilles rupture on a basketball court (albeit at 64), all technical questions should be referred to me!

Surgery to be in LA. Mom, Heather, flying out to be with her. Dad, brian, opines it isn't career ending but it will definitely "have her in the barn awhile."

Breanna Stewart likely to undergo Achilles surgery this week; dad describes her as ‘resilient’
 
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