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businesslawyer said:
I've worked for my firm since 1987 thank you very much, so I don't need to be told about loyalty and commitment in the workplace. But one's first loyalty and commitment is to one's family, not one's company. That is not a moral failing -- it is a moral strength. And, as I said, there is always a job at a price that an employee would take because he owes it to his or her family.
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We are not that different in our opinions. Let's just leave it that some people would be quicker to leave for a bigger paycheck. Do I think Fuentes made the right move going to VA Tech, a resounding YES! Rumor is Matt Ruhl may go to Maryland. Would that be the right move? Sure! Risky because of the the Terps being in the B1G East division but he should go if offered. Bob Diaco's time is still here at UCONN. Let's all enjoy watching him taking us to the next level.
 
Interview experience and obtaining competitive insight makes sense for many motivated people, but seriously considering the frozen tundra, urban blight, and ongoing train wreck which is Syracuse? Nyet, nein, non, nie, bu shi!
 
sportsart said:
I'll bet you there's a guy named Zuckerberg that would not take an offer of $46 Billion. :D When you can make say $25,000,000 over a lifetime at a place you love and another opportunity is worth $35,000,000 but you give up some of the comforts of the first job, the $25 Million might just work for them.
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Goodness gracious. I'm not saying Diaco would leave for a 5% pay hike. I said nothing like that.

Just that these are jobs, and someone taking what he views as a better one -- whatever makes it a better one in his mind -- or makes it a much better one -- is not a moral issue so long as he works hard while he's getting paid and gives appropriate notice when he leaves.
 
As long as we're in the AAC, the regular season will end in one of two ways. Either:

(1) Why does our team suck? or

(2) Aaacck! Our coach is being mentioned for P5 coaching vacancies.

I'll take (2) every time.
 
Confident Carl said:
Rumor is Matt Ruhl may go to Maryland. Would that be the right move? Sure! Risky because of the the Terps being in the B1G East division but he should go if offered.
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Bad rumor - Maryland is hiring DJ Durkin. Not sure I ever saw Rhule connected to the Turtle.
 
CTMike said:
If Diaco does what we want him to (what I think he will do), this chatter will only increase. Comes with the territory. Not worried one bit that he leaves for Cuse at this time though.
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or ever. As P5 jobs goes, 'cuse is pretty G5-ish their history notwithstanding.
 
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If you want to keep Diaco here long term there of course has to be a pay hike for him and the rest of the staff but also a commitment from the school and the state to either replace or upgrade the Rent in some spectacular manner that would all but guarantee UConn be pushed to the head of the list for the next P-5 purge of G-5 schools. The Rent as it is now along with other factors(AAU status, fan base, endowment) is not B1G caliber and the B1G is where UConn should be setting it's sites. If they'd accept Rutgers then an improved UConn should be their next acquisition. That would keep Diaco here long term.
 
huskymedic said:
Bad rumor - Maryland is hiring DJ Durkin. Not sure I ever saw Rhule connected to the Turtle.
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You are correct. Now that seems like a better move because he understands the B1G. Point was if Ruhl goes as much as Temple will be at a loss, his move career wise would be justified.

Teams that have hired new head coaches
 
businesslawyer said:
When Calhoun talked to South Carolina, it was a worse job. From day one. And yet, he talked to them. The rational explanation is that there was a $ figure at which he would have bitten. Maybe it was a totally unrealistic dollar figure -- maybe it was $7M a year for ten years -- but you are nuts if you don't think there was some number for which he would leave. Jim Calhoun is arguably the best coach of his generation and extremely loyal to his long time employer (as many are) but that doesn't mean he couldn't have been bought out.

As for Gino, there aren't even comparable jobs coaching women's hoops. But again, if someone offers him irrational money to go to Duke or Notre Dame, why would you assume there isn't some number at which point he would decide he owed his family -- future generations -- taking the money.
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Calhoun talked south Carolina and Geno had a serious flirtation with Ohio State supposedly fora nice raise. Both stayed. There are examples of pro athletes taking less money to stay with a team. You just cannot speak in such absolutes that "everyone would leave for more money. Not everyone is willing to uproot their family or have other particular reasons for turning down a job that pays more.

I used Calhoun and Auriemma because well, you don't have to go far to find examples. Was Calhoun ever paid close to top money of al CBB coaches? I really don't know the answer.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Goodness gracious. I'm not saying Diaco would leave for a 5% pay hike. I said nothing like that.

Just that these are jobs, and someone taking what he views as a better one -- whatever makes it a better one in his mind -- or makes it a much better one -- is not a moral issue so long as he works hard while he's getting paid and gives appropriate notice when he leaves.
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I gather you don't do the books for your firm. My calculation makes it a 40% increase ;)...but anyways. My point was basically some people have different numbers, that when reached, is enough. Then again, for some people "greed is good". :cool:
 
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businesslawyer said:
I've worked for my firm since 1987 thank you very much, so I don't need to be told about loyalty and commitment in the workplace. But one's first loyalty and commitment is to one's family, not one's company. That is not a moral failing -- it is a moral strength. And, as I said, there is always a job at a price that an employee would take because he owes it to his or her family.
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Hayden Fry is the exception that proves the rule.
 
businesslawyer said:
The sooner we get over this the better. There is no coach in America (there is no employee in America) who won't leave their current job for the right opportunity and the right money. None. The sooner that people realize this the sooner we avoid these silly discussions about loyalty and commitments. No employee owes his employer any more than his best effort while he is there and adequate notice.

Do I see any chance Diaco leaves us for Syracue? No. But be clear that if the right job with the right money comes along, he's gone. Just like you, me and everyone else.
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Isn't that the discussion? Is Syracuse the right job?
I think you could also gauge how close uconn is to p5 status by watching Diaco. Him moving to a marginal program wouldn't speak well of uconns position.
 
Huskyfan990411 said:
Syrapuke can sit on their high horse and pretend they are in a better position by being in the ACC but reality is one of their top choices to be the FB coach turned them down to take a job with a 0-12 team in the AAC.

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootb...he_accepted_central_florida_offer_report.html

The source is Syracuse themselves so I am just taking their word for it.
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Wow! Coyle either doesn't know what he's doing or doesn't have the funds he needs.

Cuse is going to get pushed around in the big boy school yard..........a lot!
 
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Loyalty to a school seems unrealistic these days. However, let's give Coach D the benefit of the doubt. I believe he is the right coach for our program now. I also believe only someone who has New England or more specifically UCONN ties, or just loves the region or the school, then and only then maybe they stay on and attempt to build a solid respectable program. At this current moment, I believe Coach D wants to keep building what he's started. He is a NJ guy that seems dedicated to his work and family. Having said that, and being a dad of two young children myself, being dedicated to my family and business, a solid foundation and consistency is what it takes to build something successful. I feel Coach D is laying that foundation for UCONN, so let's take a moment and back him and the program as best as we can.

I believe Warde, Susan and UCONN in general are aware of what Coach wants and can do for the program, so the money will take care of itself for both Coach and UCONN. ALL we can do as loyal Husky fans is show our support and pride by attending games, donating when we can and help grow the UCONN brand and bring new fans into the UCONN family. We are UCONN, we will build something special here. GO HUSKIES!!!
 
Confident Carl said:
You are correct. Now that seems like a better move because he understands the B1G. Point was if Ruhl goes as much as Temple will be at a loss, his move career wise would be justified.

Teams that have hired new head coaches
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I thought Ruhl was suppose to go to Missouri.
 
Bizlaw's point is dead on. Folks are taking it as absolutes. It's not.

Diaco is adequately compensated given his experience and accomplishments to date. He's not going anywhere after this season. If he continues a solid trend he will probably be around here for a while and UCONN will compensate him to market. If he is wildly successful one of the monsters will waive money beyond anything UCONN could consider and then Diaco will set himself and his family up for life. That scenario is far from a bad one for UCONN at this stage in our development.

One thing that I find very hypocritical is that fans, in general, call for a coach's head after almost every loss and then many of those same fans complain about the lack of loyalty from said coach. These guys play in a high stakes game and they would be crazy not to grab dollars when they can. Most of them are a season away from the unemployment line.
 
businesslawyer said:
The sooner we get over this the better. There is no coach in America (there is no employee in America) who won't leave their current job for the right opportunity and the right money. None. The sooner that people realize this the sooner we avoid these silly discussions about loyalty and commitments. No employee owes his employer any more than his best effort while he is there and adequate notice.

Do I see any chance Diaco leaves us for Syracue? No. But be clear that if the right job with the right money comes along, he's gone. Just like you, me and everyone else.
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I think this is mostly true; however, the legacy variable is also important to consider. For some people, it is more important to become a legend at one school rather than another link in a long leadership chain at another. The former group includes people like Calhoun, Geno, and Marrone. All had opportunities to leave for bigger programs. All stayed at UConn and built programs at UConn. Now they are legends. We already play soccer at Marrone Stadium. I am confident one day we will play basketball on Auriema court at the Calhoun Fieldhouse. If HFCBD stays and succeeds in making UConn a contender, one day we'll be tailgating in Storrs before a game against Penn State at Diaco Field.

So mote it be.
 
businesslawyer said:
The sooner we get over this the better. There is no coach in America (there is no employee in America) who won't leave their current job for the right opportunity and the right money. None. The sooner that people realize this the sooner we avoid these silly discussions about loyalty and commitments. No employee owes his employer any more than his best effort while he is there and adequate notice.

Do I see any chance Diaco leaves us for Syracue? No. But be clear that if the right job with the right money comes along, he's gone. Just like you, me and everyone else.
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BL hit it on the head here...and that's going to be the interesting thing to watch with the coaches in the AAC. They will be able to leave for the RIGHT P-5 job at their price. Like Fuente did. If you took a top coach in the AAC who is well paid and well supported by his school/AD and you broke the P-5 jobs down (give or take)....1/3 of them are a definite step up, 1/3 are worth leaving for, and 1/3 you are better off staying waiting for another job to open.
 
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BlueandOG said:
I think this is mostly true; however, the legacy variable is also important to consider. For some people, it is more important to become a legend at one school rather than another link in a long leadership chain at another. The former group includes people like Calhoun, Geno, and Marrone. All had opportunities to leave for bigger programs. All stayed at UConn and built programs at UConn. Now they are legends. We already play soccer at Marrone Stadium. I am confident one day we will play basketball on Auriema court at the Calhoun Fieldhouse. If HFCBD stays and succeeds in making UConn a contender, one day we'll be tailgating in Storrs before a game against Penn State at Diaco Field.

So mote it be.
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Yea but comparing a women's basketball coach or a soccer coach to college football is apples and oranges. Even Men's basketball is very different. Much more accomplished programs in better conferences than ours are used as stepping stones.
 
Could be his "dream job"....which is defined as any job with a substantial pay increase.
 
Dooley said:
The chances of Diaco leaving for Syracuse are about as likely as him leaving for Rutgers: not likely. Like Rutgers, Syracuse doesn't have the money to significantly trump what UConn pays him. Shafer made $1.3M/yr at Syracuse. Like Flood, that is less than what UConn pays Diaco. If Syracuse were to, say, offer $2M/yr raise, we would match that 100% of the time. Like Rutgers, Syracuse doesn't have the funding to double Diaco's contract.

Also like Rutgers, there is more talent on the UConn roster in 2016 than Syracuse. Like Rutgers, Syracuse's win O/U will be around 3 or 4. Ours will be in the 6-10 range. Just like I said in the other thread, when you combine the fact that Diaco wouldn't make much more than if he stayed here and that we could have a special year next season (and his options will be MUCH better than Rutgers or Syracuse), then it's highly unlikely he would leave for Syracuse/Rutgers.

This is all just a bunch of twitter and blogosphere chatter from two arrogant fanbases that think very little of UConn and presume he would leave UConn for the same pay at their crummy job.
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Apples v. Oranges. I think he might consider leaving if RU came calling. New Jersey kid, state school in NJ, and in B1G. All trump anything a private ACC school in central NY state snowbelt can offer.
 
uconnfan68 said:
Apples v. Oranges. I think he might consider leaving if RU came calling. New Jersey kid, state school in NJ, and in B1G. All trump anything a private ACC school in central NY state snowbelt can offer.
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Rutgers is a much more appealing job for Diacco than Syracuse would be. Yes, it would take time and no, he will never compete for national championships there (just like he won't there), but you can win at Rutgers and be there for a while.
 
Look, Cuse went from our partner in terms of joining ACC to outspoken critic,, for reasons I never understood. We should encourage them to understand that their return to glory will come with the hiring of PP. My guess is he would gladly take their financial offer and it is certainly a dream job for him. It's so obvious on so many levels. We could even throw in the perfect OC
 
gioff23 said:
Look, Cuse went from our partner in terms of joining ACC to outspoken critic,, for reasons I never understood.
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I have not seen nor heard of any evidence that Cuse was working with us. Only speculation that we might have been tabbed to join at the same time as Cuse instead of Pitt. The disgraced asshat who used to be the Cuse AD was a proponent of UL over us when the time came.
 
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