Diaco on Passing and Play Calling (Silver and Fuller)
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The amazing thing is that you said that with the intent of insulting Diaco and many of the lunatics on this board will read it as an insult.
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It's a total Rohrshach test. But yes both coaches lack the creativity and preparedness to play themselves out of that hole.
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Has any coach ever said a more unequivocal, more damning critique of his offense? Somehow I think that this far more loudly than all the "good jobs" we see him mouthing coming off the field. Wow.
5 Straight bowl games, 2 conference championships, Fiesta Bowl. I'd settle for that.
The thing about Edsall most people on this board never got, is that he coached the teams he had, not the ones he wanted. That's what the best coaches do. Diazo seems to be a much better recruiter, so if he's as good a coach as Edsall we'll be fine. I haven't seen nearly as many threads announcing Edsall's demise the past 2 years. But whatever, this shouldn't be about Edsall.
I hated the fact Diaco felt he had to coach the game that way, not the fact he coached that way. I wouldn't rather lose 28-0 than 17-14. I'd rather lose a close game knowing he was coaching to win. People can disagree on that strategy, I certainly think he went overboard and could have thrown in some screens, quick passes, something. But the idea that a 28-0 loss is a better example of "coaching to win" than a 17-14 loss is, IMO, idiotic.
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If we are building for next year can we start playing next year's QB? When will Boyle be named the starter? Why not do it now?
I understand rewarding Chandler for coming back but he can read the writing on the wall and he said in the pre-season press conference that he was content to be the back-up.
Let's put Boyle under center, give him max protection, run the ball a lot, go to shotgun on third down, tell him to throw the ball out of bounds if someone breaks through the line, and lets see what happens. Maybe something sparks the way it did with Casey last year. There is no reason to wait any longer.
Losing will be easier to stomach if we are developing next year's QB.
I understand rewarding Chandler for coming back but he can read the writing on the wall and he said in the pre-season press conference that he was content to be the back-up.
Let's put Boyle under center, give him max protection, run the ball a lot, go to shotgun on third down, tell him to throw the ball out of bounds if someone breaks through the line, and lets see what happens. Maybe something sparks the way it did with Casey last year. There is no reason to wait any longer.
Losing will be easier to stomach if we are developing next year's QB.
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Would it be wrong if a little part of me hopes Diaco is an Edsall clone just to drive you a little crazy?
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Corn mazes have fewer strawmen than the Boneyard these days.
Come again?
This is crazy. If the coaches kept putting the players in a position where we'd lose the game 28-0, we'd all be pissed that they didn't do something different, and didn't give the guys the chance to win a game. Nobody would say "we just lost 28-0 to one of the bottom 20 teams in the country, but at least we went down swinging with no chance at winning"
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Backed into a Fiesta Bowl sharing that championship with like 13 other schools, some of which may not even have been in the Big East at the time. And we lost to Temple who had better record but couldn't even get to a bowl game due to conference affiliation.
Every season 70 schools of 130 get to bowl games. Congrats on us being part of such an exclusive group.
The idea that we would have lost 28-0 if we had tried a different tactic is just nonsense and conjecture at best. It's like saying, "if I had been even more incompetent then we would have lost by a whole lot more!"
This reminds me if 2006. Wake Forest. Late 4th quarter. It's 4th and 17 and we're going for it and what does Edsall do?
Draw play baby.
Media asks him what on earth was he thinking? "Why I was trying to win the game". Wow.
So have another Edsall. That's great. We can look forward to at least two rebuilding years. A disappointing rebound year and a miracle season buoyed by non call on a fair catch.
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Would it be wrong if a little part of me hopes Diaco is an Edsall clone just to drive you a little crazy?
It's my nightmare. I just want one coach with a killer instinct and isn't about BS incremental growth. It's not inspiring, it's not fun to watch. I actually want to see my team blow another team out and have a competent offense someday.
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Mathematically, it was a close game. But we might as well have lost 28-0.
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Fairly simple: Of course the sheer act of losing 28-0 does not mean you coached to win more than losing 17-14.
No one has claimed that it does.
It's still amazing that our fans would discount the program's accomplishment just because they didn't like the coach.
Diaco doesn't have a whole lot in common with Edsall, that's all in your head.
Considering how successfully we started out throwing the ball, there is some rational thought behind Diaco's decisions.
If you want to pretend it wasn't rational because you disagreed with it, that's your call. I didn't entirely agree with the strategy. But pretending like everything was going fine when we tried to throw the ball (sack, TO on the first drive) so we should just keep plugging with that tactic is silly.
HUH?
What exactly does this mean???
"many of us would rather lose 28-0 due to incompetence of the players than 17-14 due to unwillingness of the coaches to compete."
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I imagine it means exactly what it says.
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Diaco was pretty much still holding OPEN TRYOUTS at the running back position on Friday night. Can someone let him know that NFL preseason is over?
You know what the definition of insanity is right? After two quarters... Well I will just shut up.
Discount? Please it's the truth and you know it. Wining five games to close the regular season was nice however.
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Jmoney...we are 3 & 1 without the early TO's.
A team can put players, especially young ones in a position to win....another thing getting over the hump.....we will get through it...
............hang onto your jocks boys-this is going to be a freakin great ride and not all of it smooth. This is not for the faint of heart. Maybe, just maybe...some of the people who leave early or can't get into a game on time need to grow a pair or trade in their block C blue hats for a freakin pink hat!!!
Maybe, just maybe IMHO.... it's time some of those that frequent our midst out there question their own very heart and soul and not whether a coach wants to win as was expressed in another thread...please spare me . This football program was taken DOWN right under a lot of noses and most of the UCONN fandom didn't see it. To a few of you on the BY to your credit, you saw it 3 years ago as did the guys in our group..... If you don't watch and enjoy the ride with these very young Husky pups, you will miss the ride back because it's only going to happen once. We finally have a coach with the testicular fortitude to get us there, again and make us great-again!. (Hear that Hathaway)...... Maybe, some of the UCONN pink hats need to examine their own DNA....Multiple mens BB championships, #1 womens BB program in the world, a state that sits in between NY and Boston with the Bruins, Patriots, Giants, Red Sox and Yankees. We abound and sit in and amongst greatness and very successful teams. not all can be smooth all the time...even Friday's ugly debacle but with the ugly comes the awesome.
You are 2 players away on the OL from being 3 & 1 with a team that has a majority of players that haven't had to shave yet...
You are 2 early turnovers from being 3 & 1....
Enjoy the ride...see you at Temple.
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So I was smart before but an idiot now and my heart and soul as a fan is a bigger question than the coach.
Um ok.
That face palm was for the "play Boyle" comment.
As if something would just "click" with that OL because Boyle is in.
If you're gonna complain about straw men, don't build them. He didn't say "sheer act of losing 28-0". I didn't accuse him of saying "sheer act of losing 28-0". That's how you parsed his words to build a straw man.
He absolutely said he would rather lose 28-0 "trying to win" than lose 17-14 because they were "unwilling to compete."
On it's face, this is crazy. If you lose 28-0 rather than 17-14, whatever you were trying, wasn't as successful, and didn't give you nearly the opportunity to win as whatever you were doing to lose 17-14.
You can say "he doesn't know we would have lost by 4 TDs" and you'd be right. But you also can't say we wouldn't have lost by 4 TDs. We'll never know what would have happened.
I was alongside many in my disgust with his comments that clearly implied winning the first three games wasn't as important as evaluating and "preparing". I don't think the argument that we weren't competing is entirely accurate here.
No, you're right. Since we wrote the tie-breakers rule. Since we choked our game against Pitt away like WVU did. Since we gave the Big East the BCS bid. Since Pitt was so obviously a more deserving team against Utah a few years prior. We absolutely should apologize to the nation for that Fiesta Bowl appearance.
Especially Rutgers, who you know, never got to go to one. But they did end one year ranked in the top 15, do you get a banner for that?
After the last 3 years, I can't believe people still pretend like bowl games are a birthright.
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It's not crazy. If the strategy that leads to a 28-0 loss gives you a better chance to win than the strategy that dooms you to a close loss than it's a better strategy.
Maybe some people understand blackjack. You can stand on 16 against a face card and lose a lot of close hands. It doesn't give you the best chance of winning even if a good amount of the time you hit something that busts you.
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Hmmm. How many fumbles in the monsoon? 0
How many turnovers for points after the turtle strategy? 0
The running game almost looked good at times. (But not consistantly). Penalties destroyed any momentum we had.
Late shotgun seemed to give CW another 1/2 second, but didn't keep him from getting sacked in Q4. Gutsy call in extreme wet conditions. Helped him find receivers (and see the rush).
Arkeel consistently returned kicks beyond the 20.
First Defensive points of the season I belive.
Not pretty. Not a win.
HCBD is playing the hand he was dealt. With a porous OL you don't have many options and you can't fool the opponents into thinking you do.
How many turnovers for points after the turtle strategy? 0
The running game almost looked good at times. (But not consistantly). Penalties destroyed any momentum we had.
Late shotgun seemed to give CW another 1/2 second, but didn't keep him from getting sacked in Q4. Gutsy call in extreme wet conditions. Helped him find receivers (and see the rush).
Arkeel consistently returned kicks beyond the 20.
First Defensive points of the season I belive.
Not pretty. Not a win.
HCBD is playing the hand he was dealt. With a porous OL you don't have many options and you can't fool the opponents into thinking you do.
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Early on Coach Diaco decided to try and extend the game. I have no problem with that. Trying to throw when we were starting drives inside our 20 would have been setting the team up for a real embarassment. I thought we could get one long run to loosen things up but it didn't happen. We had one QB, he played it safe. On to Temple. 80 degrees, no rain. 4 o'clock start, GO Huskies!
If you lose 28-0, you didn't have much of a chance at winning.
If you lost 17-14, you had a chance.
Of all the things that get argued about on this board. I understand people didn't like the strategy, I didn't. But arguing that a game plan that (for the sake of discussion) would cause us to lose by 4 touchdowns rather than a field goal; would have given us a better chance to win is absophuckinglutely crazy.
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I don't look at it as insult. I didn't like Randy but he is a decent coach.
If there is one difference between the two that I like off the rip is that Diaco is always selling UConn. I can point exactly to the interview where I soured on Edsall, but at this point who cares about him.
I believe in this coach, but there are things that can be questioned about his strategies. I do think he was a good hire and just the improvement in the physical conditioning of the team makes him an improvement over the last guy.
The offensive line is a major weakness. It limits a lot of things I get that. You have to incorporate more than one pass attempt for your best player.
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I'll ask you a pretty simple question:
What's a better strategy hypothetically?
1: You get blown out 90% of the time and win 10% of the time
2: You lose closely 95% of the time and only win 5%.
I'm guessing you'll say #1. Now if you want to argue there was no option 1 on Friday that's fine. That's a completely different argument than you've been making and hopefully you now understand the point people have been trying to make: That the risk of a blow out loss is worth the opportunity to win because 17-14 and 28-0 are the same outcome at the end of the day.
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Just open it up late in the game when your down one score. Down two scores the last TD felt like window dressing.
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Yikes. 4 games and you have him all figured out, huh? #rushtojudgement
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