DFB Pokal and Budesliga 22/23

[spsct]

I know I'm one of the only ones who follows The Bundesliga closely but I thought I would start a thread anyway... Even if I talk just to myself...

DFB Pokal biggest upset in the first round is Leverkusen out.

Top 6 in expected order of finish

Bayern Munich
Dortmund
RB Leipzig
Leverkusen
Freiburg
Mönchengladbach or Union Berlin

Bottom 6

Schalke
Stuttgart
Hertha Berlin
Werder Bremen Relegation Playoff
Augsburg Relegation
Bochum Relegation

 

[Waquoit]

I pick Bayern Munich to win.

 

[LIuconn]

I follow to see if any German teams can play spoiler to Munich within the league (ha), in CL and how our Americans are performing.
Gio
Pefok
Scally
Pepi
Paredes
Che
Bello
and some others

 

[spsct]

I pick Bayern Munich to win.

Yup, unfortunately so does everyone else and we're all right.

 

[spsct]

I follow to see if any German teams can play spoiler to Munich within the league (ha), in CL and how our Americans are performing.
Gio
Pefok
Scally
Pepi
Paredes
Che
Bello
and some others

I wish we would pick a couple up that would be sweet. Actually, that is what Mainz is best at, developing young players.

 

[LIuconn]

A shame the league has become Bayerns feeder system

 

[spsct]

A shame the league has become Bayerns feeder system

Yeah, the 50+1 rule is great in concept but when one club has 2x the resources of the second richest club the league it creates a steep hill for everyone else.

 

[LIuconn]

It's also making it tough for Bayern to compete in CL, although I would prefer if all leagues went to the 50+1 rule

 

[spsct]

Yeah, that breaks my heart to see Bayern struggle at anything.

 

[ETSA]

Following the Zweite Bundesliga (or the 3rd league if it comes to that) is much more suspenseful. Always several teams competing for promotion, demotion and/or the chance to play in the relegation play-offs. Big city teams are frequently playing teams from smaller towns in league play in addition to in the Pokal. It is always interesting watching teams like Kaiserslautern fall on hard times down to the Third league and even Regional leagues and then climbing back up. Also there is the pride of cubs in a city the size of Regensburg having Jahn maintain membership in the second division for six years and hopefully more. For clubs like that 40 points and Klassenerhalt is the all important goal.

Three Bundesliga teams have been knocked off in the first round (two games remain to be played). One of the three Köln lost to Regensburg on PKs. 2nd Round draw is Sept 4.

 

[spsct]

Following the Zweite Bundesliga (or the 3rd league if it comes to that) is much more suspenseful. Always several teams competing for promotion, demotion and/or the chance to play in the relegation play-offs. Big city teams are frequently playing teams from smaller towns in league play in addition to in the Pokal. It is always interesting watching teams like Kaiserslautern fall on hard times down to the Third league and even Regional leagues and then climbing back up. Also there is the pride of cubs in a city the size of Regensburg having Jahn maintain membership in the second division for six years and hopefully more. For clubs like that 40 points and Klassenerhalt is the all important goal.

Three Bundesliga teams have been knocked off in the first round (two games remain to be played). One of the three Köln lost to Regensburg on PKs. 2nd Round draw is Sept 4.

Tell me about it! That's me every year; it's funny how we have the exact same outlook.

1. Get 40 points
2. Don't lose in the first round of the Pokal

Everything else is gravy.

 

[ETSA]

Tell me about it! That's me every year; it's funny how we have the exact same outlook.

1. Get 40 points
2. Don't lose in the first round of the Pokal

Everything else is gravy.

Well for Mainz Klassenerhalt means remaining in the 1. Bundesliga and if you fall into the second division the goal seems to be to get promoted back up. In Regensburg fans often suffer from nervousness about demotion to the 3. Liga. If Jahn ever made to the 1st there isn't the financial wherewithal to keep up. Better to stay in the 2nd and not suffer through what Fürth did last season.

 

[spsct]

Well for Mainz Klassenerhalt means remaining in the 1. Bundesliga and if you fall into the second division the goal seems to be to get promoted back up. In Regensburg fans often suffer from nervousness about demotion to the 3. Liga. If Jahn ever made to the 1st there isn't the financial wherewithal to keep up. Better to stay in the 2nd and not suffer through what Fürth did last season.

True but you guys seem pretty well entrenched in the middle of the table, right? That's what i seem to remember without looking it up.
I actually think the best place for Mainz would be in the second division; we can't keep up with the tons of money getting dumped into 75% of the first division clubs.

 

[ETSA]

True but you guys seem pretty well entrenched in the middle of the table, right? That's what i seem to remember without looking it up.
I actually think the best place for Mainz would be in the second division; we can't keep up with the tons of money getting dumped into 75% of the first division clubs.

Middle of the table for Regensburg? Sort of - Jahn spends many weeks in the middle of table after getting off to good starts and then fading - dropping through the middle of ranks until ending the season in 14th or 15th as in the last two years. And this year the first month was very good with two wins a draw and the PK win in the Pokal. Last week was a loss on a late goal. The manager substituted in four players at the 82nd minute in a 0-0 away game and in the 83rd Hanover scored to take the game 1-0. Today was home loss to Karlsruhe by 0-6. Ugh! As the club home page says "Ein Rabenschwarzer Tag"

The stadium in "Rengschburg" is a nice modern facility, but only seats 15,000 so the top division would be quite a stretch for a city of just over 150,000. Staying up in the second division is all that can be realistically hoped for.

 

[spsct]

Yeah, I watched parts of that game yesterday and immediately regretted my post. I jinxed you... Sorry.

 

[Get a Job]

Auf geht's VfB!

I don't follow soccer but lived in Stuttgart for a while, so I have an affinity for the Heimteam.

 

[ETSA]

I was too disgusted with Jahn to make any comments the last couple of weeks, but finally got a point in a 0-0 remis at home. Still not happy though - One point in four games and zero goals. There are a new loan players now available on offense who may help an the manager shook up the defense yesterday. He had not been playing Kennedy (the Canadian sometimes national player) much, but played him the entire game. It has always been my impression that the backs do well with him in. Kennedy did not play at all in the previous two matches Jahn lost 0-6 and 0-4. If you can't score yourself, at least you can get a point if he keep the opponents out of the net.

 

[spsct]

I was too disgusted with Jahn to make any comments the last couple of weeks, but finally got a point in a 0-0 remis at home. Still not happy though - One point in four games and zero goals. There are a new loan players now available on offense who may help an the manager shook up the defense yesterday. He had not been playing Kennedy (the Canadian sometimes national player) much, but played him the entire game. It has always been my impression that the backs do well with him in. Kennedy did not play at all in the previous two matches Jahn lost 0-6 and 0-4. If you can't score yourself, at least you can get a point if he keep the opponents out of the net.

Yeah, I watched part of that game against Kiel, the first time I watched them this season. They did look pretty harmless. Luckily there are four AWFUL teams behind you so hopefully you can get it together soon.

But Düsseldorf is definitely doable in the next DFB Pokal round for you guys.

 

[spsct]

Nice win for Regensburg on the weekend... Big 3 points for you! Hopefully you can keep it going tomorrow.

 

[ETSA]

Yup, those 3 points are big. They gave us a little separation from the relegation zone, at least for now. Mainz is doing well and it is saved a lot of potential embarassment to beat Regionalliga opponent Lübeck in the second round of the DFB Pokal today.

As far as I am concerned Regensburg's first round win against Köln already makes this year's Pokal campaign a success. Klassenerhalt is the most important thing now. However, tomorrow fellow 2. Liga club Düsseldorf visits for the 2nd Pokal round and it would be nice to get revenge for a 4-0 loss to them in league play earlier.

 

[ETSA]

Well, spsct, I am glad I did not feel heavily invested in today's Pokal game - 5 minutes in 0-1, 11 minutes later 0-2. Ended 0-3. Düsseldorf seems to have our number.

 

[spsct]

Well, spsct, I am glad I did not feel heavily invested in today's Pokal game - 5 minutes in 0-1, 11 minutes later 0-2. Ended 0-3. Düsseldorf seems to have our number.

Yeah, I saw that. Bummer. At least you can focus on the season now. I'm happy we're through but we can lose now; I don't want to get to the semis or final and then lose. The Bayern - Leipzig - Dortmund buzz-saws are still there and eventually one of them will win.

 

[ETSA]

The 2. Bundesliga opened the second half of the season last week and now 10 of the 18 clubs are within four points of last places. Nerves are stretched incredibly tight. If Regensburg loses to Bielefeld tomorrow at home I don't think I will be able to read the post game comments.

 

[Palatine]

Reyna. Reyna. And Reyna again.

 

[spsct]

These Americans have knocked us off two weeks in a row in the last 5 minutes... It's getting tiresome...

 

[ETSA]

American born Joe Enochs is the new head trainer of Jahn Regensburg. Why it took so long to fire Selimbegovic I cannot figure out. Enochs is from California and had one cap for the US national team. He played 14 years in Germany, mostly for VfL Osnabrück as they yo-yo'd between 2nd and 3rd divisions, and then was trainer at 3rd division Zwickau.

I am pretty much ready to accept that Jahn Regensburg will be an Absteiger this year and will drop into the 3rd division. In 17th place with only three games remaining and two of them against teams in 2 and 3 place who will not be resting on their laurels because of the need to secure opportunities to be promoted to the top league. If Jahn can get a enough points to move in 16th there will still be a chance to play off to keep a place in the Zweite Bundesliga.

 

[spsct]

Yeah, it looks like Jahn and Sandhausen are pretty much done. It was a good run for Sandhausen but it was always a miracle that they lasted so long.

 

[ETSA]

Yeah, it looks like Jahn and Sandhausen are pretty much done. It was a good run for Sandhausen but it was always a miracle that they lasted so long.

I was in Heidelberg a few weeks ago and asked about Fussball in that town. Was told there is not much history of upper division Fussball there, but that Sandhausen, gets some interest there. Turns out rowing is real big in Heidelberg.