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Aside from that, he was Phil's first choice. Missing out on him when he was made their primary target was flat out embarrassing for the Knicks and a bad first step for Phil.

Except Kerr's family is in CA. So it was a much better fit for him in Golden State than 3000 miles away in NY.
 
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Except Kerr's family is in CA. So it was a much better fit for him in Golden State than 3000 miles away in NY.
What difference does that make? My point was that it looked bad for the Knicks and Phil, it doesn't matter why Kerr took the Golden State job.

And anyway his choice had nothing to do with location. The Knicks are a dumpster fire, Fisher has a hell of a job ahead of him.
 

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What difference does that make? My point was that it looked bad for the Knicks and Phil, it doesn't matter why Kerr took the Golden State job.

And anyway his choice had nothing to do with location. The Knicks are a dumpster fire, Fisher has a hell of a job ahead of him.

The roster has the 2012 DPOY, 2013 scoring champion and the 2013 6th man of the year and two 1st team all rookies. It's a shame they didn't make the playoffs, but calling the team a dumpster fire is just irresponsible.
 
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You do realize that Fisher is the same kind of journeyman NBA player that Ollie was, right ? That he is a point guard who isn't particularly big, strong, fast, quick, or athletic. The he made a very long NBA career out of knowing the offense, knowing the opposition, and mastering spacing, etc. Pretty much exactly like Ollie. With nearly as much coaching experience as Ollie.

And he works for perhaps the greatest coach in the history of pro basketball.

When did I say I didn't think he could be a good coach? I think you may have assumed a bit too much of what I thought.
 
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The roster has the 2012 DPOY, 2013 scoring champion and the 2013 6th man of the year and two 1st team all rookies. It's a shame they didn't make the playoffs, but calling the team a dumpster fire is just irresponsible.

The Knicks are in basketball purgatory. They're the Atlanta Hawks. Being a perennial 7 or 8 seed is way worse than bottoming out, but jackasses like James Dolan don't realize that.

I'm sorry you don't like the term 'dumpster fire', but the Knicks are not in a good place right now. Melo is FAR from a lock to be back next year (I actually think they'd be better off letting him walk, he'll never be the best player on a championship team and is just eating up valuable cap room). They don't have a point guard. They still owe Amare Stoudamire another $23.5 million next year. The 2013 6th man of the year, who was great in that role, now is a locker room problem and is demanding to start. They don't have a first round pick in this year's stacked draft.

We'll see what the Zen Master can do.
 

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besides the FO experience and separation from his playing career(it doesn't matter imo) DFish ... was the president of the players's union ...

Where he was a failure. The union still hasn't recovered from his "leadership". I hope for a similar result for the Knicks.
 
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The roster has the 2012 DPOY, 2013 scoring champion and the 2013 6th man of the year and two 1st team all rookies. It's a shame they didn't make the playoffs, but calling the team a dumpster fire is just irresponsible.
And the point is despite all that, said roster went 37-45 this season. If our 2011-2012 team finished winning just 45% of their games, missing NCAA and NIT, with JC getting fired and Bazz looking to transfer, I'm sure a lot of people would have called dumpster fire.
 

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The roster has the 2012 DPOY, 2013 scoring champion and the 2013 6th man of the year and two 1st team all rookies. It's a shame they didn't make the playoffs, but calling the team a dumpster fire is just irresponsible.
Yeah, you're giving dumpster fires a bad name. Given a choice between watching a dumpster fire or your 2014 Knicks, which would you choose? Yeah I thought so...
 

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Yeah, you're giving dumpster fires a bad name. Given a choice between watching a dumpster fire or your 2014 Knicks, which would you choose? Yeah I thought so...

Trolls come out in drones when the Knicks are mentioned.
 

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Trolls come out in drones when the Knicks are mentioned.
Couple things:
Trolling usually demands inflammatory comments with outlandish assertions. I know trolling, I remember watching it back in the days (daze?) of the IRC and Usenet alt.rec forums. This is hardly trolling. Unless of course you are thinking of trolls who demand payment, e.g., the troll who comes out from under the the bridge to accost those wishing to cross said bridge. But again, this is not a troll, for no payment is demanded. Nor am I piloting a unmanned aerial vehicle. Once and a while I get to drive a Scanning Electron Microscope, but that's the extent of the cutting edge high technology I get to use; except for Matlab, which I should be doing now.

You give far too much credit to the Knicks and their cache. As an unfortunate and unwilling resident of the US version of Calcutta (although I think Calcutta has nicer cops) I see firsthand the amount, or more correctly the lack thereof, in the cache of the Knicks. Although I work among boffins, who are not known for their enthusiasm in sports, even the students I encounter would prefer watching a good dumpster fire; we could bring some stores from the chemical lab to make it exciting to watch. Unfortunately nothing, neither chemical (lots of beer), biological (new coach, old president), or physical (refurbishment of that barn on 8th and 34th), could ever make the Knicks exciting to watch.

Then again, maybe you're right. The mere mention of that floundering franchise and its blighted past, present and future brings you here every time. And lord knows, you drone on and on and on.
 
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Couple things:
Trolling usually demands inflammatory comments with outlandish assertions. I know trolling, I remember watching it back in the days (daze?) of the IRC and Usenet alt.rec forums. This is hardly trolling. Unless of course you are thinking of trolls who demand payment, e.g., the troll who comes out from under the the bridge to accost those wishing to cross said bridge. But again, this is not a troll, for no payment is demanded. Nor am I piloting a unmanned aerial vehicle. Once and a while I get to drive a Scanning Electron Microscope, but that's the extent of the cutting edge high technology I get to use; except for Matlab, which I should be doing now.

You give far too much credit to the Knicks and their cache. As an unfortunate and unwilling resident of the US version of Calcutta (although I think Calcutta has nicer cops) I see firsthand the amount, or more correctly the lack thereof, in the cache of the Knicks. Although I work among boffins, who are not known for their enthusiasm in sports, even the students I encounter would prefer watching a good dumpster fire; we could bring some stores from the chemical lab to make it exciting to watch. Unfortunately nothing, neither chemical (lots of beer), biological (new coach, old president), or physical (refurbishment of that barn on 8th and 34th), could ever make the Knicks exciting to watch.

Then again, maybe you're right. The mere mention of that floundering franchise and its blighted past, present and future brings you here every time. And lord knows, you drone on and on and on.
Pretty funny, but maybe could have kept it simple and gone with the drones/droves thing.
 

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Couple things:
Trolling usually demands inflammatory comments with outlandish assertions. I know trolling, I remember watching it back in the days (daze?) of the IRC and Usenet alt.rec forums. This is hardly trolling. Unless of course you are thinking of trolls who demand payment, e.g., the troll who comes out from under the the bridge to accost those wishing to cross said bridge. But again, this is not a troll, for no payment is demanded. Nor am I piloting a unmanned aerial vehicle. Once and a while I get to drive a Scanning Electron Microscope, but that's the extent of the cutting edge high technology I get to use; except for Matlab, which I should be doing now.

You give far too much credit to the Knicks and their cache. As an unfortunate and unwilling resident of the US version of Calcutta (although I think Calcutta has nicer cops) I see firsthand the amount, or more correctly the lack thereof, in the cache of the Knicks. Although I work among boffins, who are not known for their enthusiasm in sports, even the students I encounter would prefer watching a good dumpster fire; we could bring some stores from the chemical lab to make it exciting to watch. Unfortunately nothing, neither chemical (lots of beer), biological (new coach, old president), or physical (refurbishment of that barn on 8th and 34th), could ever make the Knicks exciting to watch.

Then again, maybe you're right. The mere mention of that floundering franchise and its blighted past, present and future brings you here every time. And lord knows, you drone on and on and on.

 
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Don't forget that same 37-45 roster also won 54 games the year before. It's not often during a season that everything that can go wrong does, but last years Knicks team def had everything go wrong. Chandler missed almost half the season, JR and Shump coming off knee surgeries, a terrible coach who couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag who threw players under the bus and lost the team early on (shows you how much Kidd was a coach the year before while playing), on top of down years from everyone imaginable. Are they the 54 win team they were the year before? No, are they nearly as bad as they were this past year? No. I think they, as constructed now, are somewhere between a 42-47 win team. Also, people can bash Jackson and the Fisher hirings all they want but the fact is those two have won everywhere they've been and are regarded as two of the best people you can have going forward. Look at Doc Rivers, Kidd, Mark Jackson, all jumped to head coaches right off the bat and none of them seemed to really struggle. Also Phil will be there everyday to guide Fisher. It'll be interesting to see what player moves occur bc they are trying to get a pick and anyone on the roster is available in the right deal.
 
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Couple things:
Trolling usually demands inflammatory comments with outlandish assertions. I know trolling, I remember watching it back in the days (daze?) of the IRC and Usenet alt.rec forums. This is hardly trolling. Unless of course you are thinking of trolls who demand payment, e.g., the troll who comes out from under the the bridge to accost those wishing to cross said bridge. But again, this is not a troll, for no payment is demanded. Nor am I piloting a unmanned aerial vehicle. Once and a while I get to drive a Scanning Electron Microscope, but that's the extent of the cutting edge high technology I get to use; except for Matlab, which I should be doing now.

You give far too much credit to the Knicks and their cache. As an unfortunate and unwilling resident of the US version of Calcutta (although I think Calcutta has nicer cops) I see firsthand the amount, or more correctly the lack thereof, in the cache of the Knicks. Although I work among boffins, who are not known for their enthusiasm in sports, even the students I encounter would prefer watching a good dumpster fire; we could bring some stores from the chemical lab to make it exciting to watch. Unfortunately nothing, neither chemical (lots of beer), biological (new coach, old president), or physical (refurbishment of that barn on 8th and 34th), could ever make the Knicks exciting to watch.

Then again, maybe you're right. The mere mention of that floundering franchise and its blighted past, present and future brings you here every time. And lord knows, you drone on and on and on.
Arghh. Disregard my previous post. The hungover dude got caught reading/posting in traffic, doing none of the above well.
 
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