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PAHusky said:
Running scared? Being realistic. What did the oddsmakers have the lines at for UConn in the last 8-10 games, and how'd we do there?

As I said - we can and should win these games. But this team can't afford to take any teams lightly the way they're playing right now, and we're not good enough to be running experiments during games.

Win tonight, get back on track and try to grab a decent seed for the BE tournament.
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Cynics and naysayers always claim they’re being realistic. You’re just playing it safe, protecting yourself from disappointment. I get it. This last stretch, especially the last 3 games have been extremely disappointing.

I never said we should be experimenting. It was clear by their effectiveness against Xavier that Hurley didn’t just pull those zones out of his during half time. They had obviously worked on them in practice. My point was whether it was the zones or some other strategy which the coach actually believed would get this team to play better, this week presents an opportunity to work on any such strategy under actual game conditions at LOWER RISK. Why wouldn’t you?

If you aren’t confident that they can win both of these games and be in control doing so, why continue following the team this season? If these are games that could go either way, then future games against Providence, .Marquette, Creighton, and rejuvenated Villanova with Moore back must be certain losses. Forget the BE & NCAA tournaments. If caution is needed niw, even caution won’t help vs better teams.

People on this board call Seton Hall & St. John’s bad teams. They aren’t but these two coming up are truly bad teams. DePaul isn’t even in the top 100 and Georgetown isn’t in the top 150.

Save yourself the stress. Give up on the season now.
 
husky429 said:
Making a zone our base defense is a terrible idea, and something Hurley would absolutely never do. Zones are your counter to change the pace or force certain types of shots when your base defense isn't working. This isn't middle school basketball.
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It can be middle school basketball if you turn the ball over as many and at critical times as we have done. This is the one key piece along with offensive rebounding to result in wins this time of year. Love having our guards play at a faster pace and attack the rim.
 
Billy Jack said:
Cynics and naysayers always claim they’re being realistic. You’re just playing it safe, protecting yourself from disappointment. I get it. This last stretch, especially the last 3 games have been extremely disappointing.

I never said we should be experimenting. It was clear by their effectiveness against Xavier that Hurley didn’t just pull those zones out of his during half time. They had obviously worked on them in practice. My point was whether it was the zones or some other strategy which the coach actually believed would get this team to play better, this week presents an opportunity to work on any such strategy under actual game conditions at LOWER RISK. Why wouldn’t you?

If you aren’t confident that they can win both of these games and be in control doing so, why continue following the team this season? If these are games that could go either way, then future games against Providence, .Marquette, Creighton, and rejuvenated Villanova with Moore back must be certain losses. Forget the BE & NCAA tournaments. If caution is needed niw, even caution won’t help vs better teams.

People on this board call Seton Hall & St. John’s bad teams. They aren’t but these two coming up are truly bad teams. DePaul isn’t even in the top 100 and Georgetown isn’t in the top 150.

Save yourself the stress. Give up on the season now.
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You are oddly aggressive in these posts. Thank you for the suggestions on how to be a fan, duly noted
 
Billy Jack said:
Cynics and naysayers always claim they’re being realistic. You’re just playing it safe, protecting yourself from disappointment. I get it. This last stretch, especially the last 3 games have been extremely disappointing.

I never said we should be experimenting. It was clear by their effectiveness against Xavier that Hurley didn’t just pull those zones out of his during half time. They had obviously worked on them in practice. My point was whether it was the zones or some other strategy which the coach actually believed would get this team to play better, this week presents an opportunity to work on any such strategy under actual game conditions at LOWER RISK. Why wouldn’t you?

If you aren’t confident that they can win both of these games and be in control doing so, why continue following the team this season? If these are games that could go either way, then future games against Providence, .Marquette, Creighton, and rejuvenated Villanova with Moore back must be certain losses. Forget the BE & NCAA tournaments. If caution is needed niw, even caution won’t help vs better teams.

People on this board call Seton Hall & St. John’s bad teams. They aren’t but these two coming up are truly bad teams. DePaul isn’t even in the top 100 and Georgetown isn’t in the top 150.

Save yourself the stress. Give up on the season now.
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I’m realistic not playing it safe at all. I’m scared of DePaul because we will need to score the ball to win this game, something we’ve struggled to do as of late. Or play better defense!?!?
 
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Fingers crossed that the 4k broadcast looks good - I'm tired of not being able to see faces.
 
HooperScooper said:
Unfortunately Verizon Fios hasn't picked up the 4K broadcast. :mad:
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Yeah I got a prompt when I turned to the channel but there was nothing on the 4k channel. But the regular broadcast looked good once I adjusted.
 
yungdowork said:
Gibson and Johnson can straight up score the basketball. Both are great shooters from the FT line and can shoot the 3 too, especially Gibson. If we can shut down at least one of them, they don't have a ton of other weapons. Gibson makes me nervous though, as he is somewhat similar to Souley Boum and he played great against us.
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Shut down Gibson. Johnson got his but shut him down pretty well after the initial burst to start the game.
 
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It has now become the norm for me to keep these threads open to the OP for at least the first half of a game to balance what I am watching to what the players have done throughout the season.

@Hey Adrien! , thanks again for these.
 
Updated Report!

DePaul: 9-20
0-7 since we’ve last played
Kenpom Rating: 145 (Down from 135)

OFFENSE: 136th in efficiency (down from 119th)

8th in Offensive Efficiency in the Big East​
  • 4th in
    • 16.9 seconds/possession
    • 35.5 3P%
    • 56.5 A/FGM
  • 5th in
    • 37.0 3PA/FGA
    • Turnover prevention
  • 9th in
    • 69.1 ft%
    • Offensive rebounding rate
  • 10th
    • 46.7 2p%
    • FTA/FGA 25.9%

DEFENSE: 177th in efficiency (same as last time we played

10th in Defensive Efficiency in the Big East​
  • 3rd in block rate
  • 4th in A/FGM (53.3%)
  • 5th in 34.7 3PA/FGA
  • 7th in 50.8 2p%
  • 8th in 35.7 3p%
  • 9th in steal rate
  • 10th FTA/FGA (37.3%)
  • 11th defensive rebounding
Injury: Anei (hammy) ; Bynum (suspended)

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DePaul’s Top Performers Over the Last 30 Days​

Umoja Gibson: 18.0p, 3.3r, 4.4a, 1.1s, 3.6 3PM, 47.4 fg%
Javan Johnson: 12.3p, 4.1r, 3.3a, 1.1b, 2.4 3PM, 41.2 fg%, 42.9 ft%!
Nick Ongenda: 9.8p, 8.5r, 1.5s, 5.8 blocks!!!

While DePaul has not won since 1/18 (Xavier), the team has looked very different the last four games with senior center Nick Ongenda making his season debut after a wrist injury recovery. Within those four games, one loss was in 2OT against St. John’s, a one point loss to Butler and a six point loss to Marquette. All in all, that’s not a bad winless stretch.

Throughout his career, Ongenda has been a respected rim protector who keeps it simple on offense.

Like I said last game, Stubblefield gets his teams to play hard, but DePaul just doesn’t have a lot of firepower: Gibson and Johnson are a nice duo, Ongenda is a good defender, Penn/Nelson are hard workers, Murphy/Terry are suitable backup point guards and Gebrewhit is a good spacer.
 
If Ongenda gets in foul trouble, they really have no one who can defend the paint at a high level. I'd love to see some early aggressiveness to try to get that to happen. Anei isn't horrible, but he's not on Ongenda's tier by any means.

Johnson has been struggling with efficiency a bit lately, but you never know when he'll fill it up. He's only shot 7 free throws in the last month, so we just have to keep him from getting off clean jumpers and we should be able to limit his effectiveness.
 
ClifSpliffy said:
clearly, the 'all big east name team.'
Philmon Gebrewhit? no dis to that guy intended, but i am completely bereft of tools to even figure out that one.
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Ethio-American
 
Thanks @Hey Adrien! Ongenda changes some things, so we will need to attack him. I don't see how UConn fails to win this in double figures unless the Huskies come out thinking they are God's gift again. Can't let a team like this get confident, that's how we lost to St. Johns. Mindset needs to be to crush their souls and spirit and bury them. Can't look past anybody now. Treat every game with respect, because in two games, there are no more do-overs.
 
DePaul nearly came back from a 20 point deficit on the road in that Marquette game. Their defense was suffocating. They just didn’t have the talent (or late game strategy) to break through a 2 possession game down the stretch

If we sleepwalk, I expect a back and forth first half and then we pull away in the second

If we don’t sleepwalk, should be a 20+ point win here. Would love to see Springs play in his final UConn home game
 
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NotADime89 said:
I mean the schedule makers had to do something to balance out the front end of our schedule.

Nova
@ Xavier
@Providence
Creighton
@Marquette

The schedule makers did us no favors in that 2 week stretch
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Yeah but to me there is something to be said about facing such adversity in January, recover in February and now rising to the top in March. In other words their confidence is soaring, not sure that happens with late losses. Having so many new parts and faces, I think this schedule was actually what this team needed. "Survive and Thrive".
 
Kitaman said:
Yeah but to me there is something to be said about facing such adversity in January, recover in February and now rising to the top in March. In other words their confidence is soaring, not sure that happens with late losses. Having so many new parts and faces, I think this schedule was actually what this team needed. "Survive and Thrive".
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Next phase of schedule coming up.. "Survive and Advance"
 
Kitaman said:
Yeah but to me there is something to be said about facing such adversity in January, recover in February and now rising to the top in March. In other words their confidence is soaring, not sure that happens with late losses. Having so many new parts and faces, I think this schedule was actually what this team needed. "Survive and Thrive".
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But we did get dominated, straight dominated by Louisville last game of the season in either 2011 or 2014, I know one of you freaks will know but it’s slipped my mind
 
Kembacity said:
But we did get dominated, straight dominated by Louisville last game of the season in either 2011 or 2014, I know one of you freaks will know but it’s slipped my mind
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14 lost by about 40 lol
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Louisville had some guard who seemed like he'd been there for 8 years, and they fouled relentlessly and played very tough D. Looked it up, Russ Smith. Just a horrible matchup for UConn. The beat us three times that season.
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Russ Smith.

Nightmare. And Montrezl Harrell played against us like a comic book superhero or the Zombie Mountain from Game of thrones.
 
August_West said:
Russ Smith.

Nightmare. And Montrezl Harrell played against us like a comic book superhero or the Zombie Mountain from Game of thrones.
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Yeah, he was a sophomore. DIdn't know what he'd become really. Terry Rozier was a freshman on that team.
 
August_West said:
Russ Smith.

Nightmare. And Montrezl Harrell played against us like a comic book superhero or the Zombie Mountain from Game of thrones.
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They were the one team we would have lost to if we played them in the NCAAT. Thankfully Kentucky beat them lol
 
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