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DePaul Post Game Thread

HW611 said:
He’s not producing like the other players.

He’ll improve as the season goes on. Would like to see him continue to be more efficient, find ways to get to the line more, and get his scoring average closer to 15 with how great the rest of this class has been playing.
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We've yet to see what Mullins will be. The kid only came back a few games ago as most of the current rotation found their sea legs. Let's all stay patient - no point arguing this now.
 
HW611 said:
He’s not producing like the other players.

He’ll improve as the season goes on. Would like to see him continue to be more efficient, find ways to get to the line more, and get his scoring average closer to 15 with how great the rest of this class has been playing.
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Sure, which is why nobody is arguing top 5 for him. But the production is already there for him to be a lottery pick, he's not being drafted on potential
 
navery12 said:
Sure, which is why nobody is arguing top 5 for him. But the production is already there for him to be a lottery pick, he's not being drafted on potential
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I would post Braylon’s #s compared to the rest of the freshman and sophomores in the 10-20 range but it would be largely pointless.

I’m not sure if you understand just how well everyone else is playing.
 
aceboon said:
it's almost like BYers missed Liam being mocked late lottery/teens last year and then nearly falling out of the first round because the actual production didn't match. Braylon still has plenty of time and a 10 day break will do him wonders but at the end of pre-season "mock drafts" will only take you so far.
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Mind you Liam came in physically more ready for the NBA and had showed more up until this point.

Braylon is not the no brainer lottery pick as it stands today.
 
HW611 said:
He’s not producing like the other players.

He’ll improve as the season goes on. Would like to see him continue to be more efficient, find ways to get to the line more, and get his scoring average closer to 15 with how great the rest of this class has been playing.
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Still waiting for him to drop 10 3s in one game :) Well he doesn't seem to be one and done, so Im sure he’ll get plenty of opportunities.
 
HW611 said:
I would post Braylon’s #s compared to the rest of the freshman and sophomores in the 10-20 range but it would be largely pointless.

I’m not sure if you understand just how well everyone else is playing.
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I do, the freshman class is loaded this year. And when we look at the end of the year Mullins will have really good numbers too, now that his minutes restrictions are gone and he's running the actual offense more and more.

All I'm saying is Braylon has also had those big games which is all I mean when I say he's not being drafted on potential. I just wouldn't consider Mullins being drafted on potential when he's already shown the 3 point shooting, the midrange scoring, the defense, everything NBA teams want to see.
 
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HW611 said:
I would post Braylon’s #s compared to the rest of the freshman and sophomores in the 10-20 range but it would be largely pointless.

I’m not sure if you understand just how well everyone else is playing.
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Keaton Wagler wasn't even a top 200 recruit and he's already getting first round talk because of his production outperforming expectations and his potential once he fills out. Draft is way too deep with young talent performing at a high level to be talking with certainty without actually looking around at the rest of the cbb landscape.
 
Maybe a hot take but I’m not sure the shots are available for Braylon to get up to 15+ PPG where he’d be a unanimous top 10 pick

Solo is the guy we have flying around the court getting open for shots. We clearly love dropping it down to Tarris. Karaban is definitely the next guy for scoring. We want Silas to be more confident and aggressive so he can take more shots

I think Braylon’s most common type of game will be more like Texas and Butler, hyper efficient 10-13 PPG while grabbing some rebounds and playing solid defense. He’s due for breakout games, just like everyone else in the starting 5 can pop off on any given game (like Kansas)

He’s still been in the late lottery/top 20 on a lot of mock drafts I’ve seen so there’s clearly real value. If he can be a super efficient shooter and scorer, continue showing flashes, and UConn goes deep in the tournament, then he’s definitely a high draft pick. Even though as of today, he needs more time. And if there is a real chance to be a lottery pick, it’d be silly for him to not cash in
 
navery12 said:
Sure, which is why nobody is arguing top 5 for him. But the production is already there for him to be a lottery pick, he's not being drafted on potential
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How do you figure that? I'm not arguing he will or won't be a lottery pick, it's too early for that, but his production isn't near what lots of freshmen are doing so I don't see how that figures much in what NBA scouts are focusing on at this point.. He's coming off an injury that sidelined him for almost 6 weeks and he's only played in 7 games. He'll get better but this UConn team is so balanced he's probably not going to have numbers that other top 10 freshmen are producing. I don't think that will matter where he gets drafted anyway.
 
Replays of the puke were unnecessary but otherwise enjoyable 30 minutes to close it out. Bad 1st 10 or so.
 
HooperScooper said:
How do you figure that? I'm not arguing he will or won't be a lottery pick, it's too early for that, but his production isn't near what lots of freshmen are doing so I don't see how that figures much in what NBA scouts are focusing on at this point.. He's coming off an injury that sidelined him for almost 6 weeks and he's only played in 7 games. He'll get better but this UConn team is so balanced he's probably not going to have numbers that other top 10 freshmen are producing. I don't think that will matter where he gets drafted anyway.
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If you go to a place like Maya and look at his efficiency rankings, he's 8th on Uconn right now. Reibe is actually 9th. So he's definitely not lighting it up. To compare to let's say Arizona, Burris and Peat are up at 6.79 and close to 6, where Mullins is around 3. He has shown some flashes of what he can do, but that's about it. He's not producing consistently or efficiently right now. It's going to take some time. Thanks goodness for the Big East.
 
I think the best way of putting it is if Mullins ends the season with his current averages, he’s probably fighting to get into the lottery at best.

His lottery status is dependent on shooting 40% from 3, he’ll average 12-14 if he does, and it’ll confirm his status as the best shooter in the class.
 
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Huskyforlife said:
I think the best way of putting it is if Mullins ends the season with his current averages, he’s probably fighting to get into the lottery at best.

His lottery status is dependent on shooting 40% from 3, he’ll average 12-14 if he does, and it’ll confirm his status as the best shooter in the class.
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Think taller Reed Sheppard. I think Sheppard shot around 45% from three.
 
If you told me Solo would not play and AK and Stewart had injuries from the last game and Demary was gonna be sick I would have thought we would lose.

Luckilly only Solo was out and AK went off and Stewart played and Demary left and came back with a great stat line.

Gonna need our A game at X and at least we hopped Duke!
 
Lafayette said:
If you told me Solo would not play and AK and Stewart had injuries from the last game and Demary was gonna be sick I would have thought we would lose.

Luckilly only Solo was out and AK went off and Stewart played and Demary left and came back with a great stat line.

Gonna need our A game at X and at least we hopped Duke!
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What injury did Karaban have?
 
Lafayette said:
If you told me Solo would not play and AK and Stewart had injuries from the last game and Demary was gonna be sick I would have thought we would lose.

Luckilly only Solo was out and AK went off and Stewart played and Demary left and came back with a great stat line.

Gonna need our A game at X and at least we hopped Duke!
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A game vs Xavier? They stinketh. They just got beat by Creighton by 40 at home.

We have nothing but crud coming up. I don't expect any of these teams to stay within double digits. We should have no problems beating any of DePaul, Xavier, Marquette, PC, Gtown by double digits home and away.

Creighton, Butler, Seton Hall, Nova, StJ might be challenges on the road. Maybe.

Our next loseable game is at SHU.
 
RuffRuff said:
A lot of that was based on his HS tape. A pick that high still has to prove it on the floor against good college competition. He’s still working himself back into game shape and the system, so TBD.
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Thanks for this. All you have to do here is suggest something other than what everybody wants to hear and away we go. I love this Mullins kid but I don’t see NBA today. As good as he is, maybe by the end of the season. I hope not but maybe.
 
HW611 said:
Okay I feel comfortable saying I’m not sold on Mullins being a one and done just yet.

With the talent he has, I’d love if he doesn’t rush it and comes back another year to really hone in his skills.
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Are you sure you dare to say this? Some how my comments have been interpreted to mean that I don’t think this kid has great talent which is absolutely wrong. He does but he needs time to grow and mature.
 
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RuffRuff said:
He very well could if he stuck around as the difference between the upcoming draft and the one thereafter is night and day. He could legitimately go top 5 in the following. I've made this argument before. He's going to be on a partial year and has a lot of growing to do. If we threw him a sizeable NIL, could it make sense to stick around for another year, put some weight on, refine the game with a top staff.

He'd likely be rolling out there with 4 guys he already knows too - lineup could be Demary/Solo/Mullins/Stew/Reibe. That would be slam dunk number 1 team in the country.

There is a compelling reason to come back, obviously if he's guaranteed lottery this year you do kinda have to go.
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He will soon play in the NBA. He needs to get bigger, stronger and quicker if he is gong to make a difference on day one. He has skills that most players dream about and he will get there for sure. I hope he is paid to stick around one more year so that we can all make Bird-like comparisons here.
 
navery12 said:
I do, the freshman class is loaded this year. And when we look at the end of the year Mullins will have really good numbers too, now that his minutes restrictions are gone and he's running the actual offense more and more.

All I'm saying is Braylon has also had those big games which is all I mean when I say he's not being drafted on potential. I just wouldn't consider Mullins being drafted on potential when he's already shown the 3 point shooting, the midrange scoring, the defense, everything NBA teams want to see.
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Outside of Kansas, his best game has been 12 points. Wouldn’t say he’s had big games.
aceboon said:
Keaton Wagler wasn't even a top 200 recruit and he's already getting first round talk because of his production outperforming expectations and his potential once he fills out. Draft is way too deep with young talent performing at a high level to be talking with certainty without actually looking around at the rest of the cbb landscape.
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This is kind of Mullins main competition for the shooter lottery spot. He’s also 6’6 and slight. Averaging like 15 a game.

This is another guy who’s behind Mullins in the current mock. The competition is so stiff for that lottery spot this year.
 
HW611 said:
Outside of Kansas, his best game has been 12 points. Wouldn’t say he’s had big games.

This is kind of Mullins main competition for the shooter lottery spot. He’s also 6’6 and slight. Averaging like 15 a game.

This is another guy who’s behind Mullins in the current mock. The competition is so stiff for that lottery spot this year.
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BR's latest (Mullins 15)

He's behind Carr at Baylor, who's having a blowout year. They really pushed some frosh down, like Cenac and Thomas.

 
HW611 said:
Outside of Kansas, his best game has been 12 points. Wouldn’t say he’s had big games
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Taking away his best game makes his stats worse?! More breaking news tonight at 11.

I would argue the Texas and Butler games were both very good all around games. It's not all about points
 
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navery12 said:
Taking away his best game makes his stats worse?! More breaking news tonight at 11.

I would argue the Texas and Butler games were both very good all around games. It's not all about points
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I'd say for him, points matter. It's ok if he hasn't been great every game, it's ok. I promise. It's ok.
 
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