DePaul post game thread

[traitor71]

Take the win and leave the female announcer.
She was bad and called # 10 on DePaul Akok at least 5 times.

If there was anything that drove me crazy about the game, it was that. Otherwise it was just a flat performance against a team that they could get away with it against. Good to get a game like that out of the way before this upcoming stretch.

 

[Hankster]

Take the win and leave the female announcer.
In my opinion only, they were both terrible.

 

[traitor71]

Maybe. Maybe not.

It's always hard to say. If he is in, then maybe someone else who played well doesn't have the same production. maybe his presence results in a different effort from our team. The what if game can be pretty tricky.

 

[dennismenace]

Gaffney had a small but crucial stretch of play that included a traditional 3 point play.

and no TO's.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

I just rewatched parts of the game and man, was it dead at the Wintrust.

If you did a blind comparison between the audio of that game and a random UConn @ East Carolina game, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Not terribly surprised UConn played an uninspiring game in an uninspiring setting.

Thank god we're back at the XL for Tuesday.

 

[Chin Diesel]

First game I've missed this year.

I'm assuming the defense to keep DePaul at bay when DePaul got up 23-13 and UConn clawed back was key along with the defense to start the second half when UConn pulled away a bit way was the key to success.

As I've read others say any conference road win is a thing of beauty.

 

[Conndog]

I was really impressed by DePaul’s defense. I’m surprised they haven’t won more games in conference.

Same thoughts here. What was it about their defense that made it so hard for UConn to get open looks? I mean, there were some but not many. It's always been a question mark for me what kind of offense we run, hence the comments of maybe needing a coach for offense. It must depend in part on the skills of our players. I know we only have Cole, perhaps AJ a little, as someone who can take it inside, because everyone else ( Martin, Polley, Hawkins) has basic dribbling problems. Maybe DePaul is better than their record indicates.

 

[tjc1888]

Same thoughts here. What was it about their defense that made it so hard for UConn to get open looks? I mean, there were some but not many. It's always been a question mark for me what kind of offense we run, hence the comments of maybe needing a coach for offense. It must depend in part on the skills of our players. I know we only have Cole, perhaps AJ a little, as someone who can take it inside, because everyone else ( Martin, Polley, Hawkins) has basic dribbling problems. Maybe DePaul is better than their record indicates.

This is still a narrative around here? We need offensive coach and we don’t run an offense?

We are a top 20 offense in Kenpom
Top 25 in ppg in the country

If you watch the game - there is constant motion and sets being run. People need to not just repeat the same stuff the people who don’t know what they are talking about say on here.

 

[Sphinx]

The downside of having a UConn team that is competitive against anybody is that they are competitive against anybody, not just strongly competitive against the best but merely competitive against the worst. Their performance against DePaul augurs nothing about their performance against Creighton or Villanova. Win or lose, it will be something else entirely,

 

[nelsonmuntz]

That's not correct at all. He's got a 114 ORTG on the year.

If we compare him to Cole, he gets to the rim more often and finishes better when he does. He can drive left or right. He draws fouls more frequently on a per possession basis. Despite heavier volume, he has a lower turnover rate than Cole (who is pretty low I might add, JFL's is just very low). He's hitting 39% from 3 compared to 33% for Cole on the same volume, many of which are off the dribble pull-ups. He has a decent assist rate, if lower than Cole, but he plays a combo guard role alongside Terry. Depaul's offense is 14 points better per 100 with him on the court. They're a complete dumpster fire on offense without him, as we saw tonight. Nobody can finish or shoot.

They're the equivalent of a top 30 offense with him and 250th without him on the year.

Good points. Here are the stats I like to look at first: Depaul is 1-9 in conference and 10-10 overall. Their two best wins of the season are over Louisville, where Freeman-Liberty was 2 for 15 and Jones won the game for the Blue Demons, and Seton Hall, where JFL got hurt early in the second half and barely played the rest of the game. They lost a winnable game vs. Butler because JFL went on a hero ball, shooting spree, going 4 for 16 from the field (1 for 8 from 3). Since JFL went out, Depaul has gone 0-4, but almost beat Xavier and UConn, two top 25 teams. Depaul looks decent.

JFL is the prototypical bad team star, putting up big stats in games his team is certain to lose, or against weak non-conference opponents. Depaul is not that bad a team anymore, and doesn't need him jacking a dozen contested shots a game. Depaul has winnable home games against Georgetown, Butler and Creighton coming up in the next three weeks, so we will see how this team does. They will beat Georgetown regardless, but if JFL returns and starts launching contested pullups, they will lose two winnable games to Butler and Creighton.

 

[auror]

Good points. Here are the stats I like to look at first: Depaul is 1-9 in conference and 10-10 overall. Their two best wins of the season are over Louisville, where Freeman-Liberty was 2 for 15 and Jones won the game for the Blue Demons, and Seton Hall, where JFL got hurt early in the second half and barely played the rest of the game. They lost a winnable game vs. Butler because JFL went on a hero ball, shooting spree, going 4 for 16 from the field (1 for 8 from 3). Since JFL went out, Depaul has gone 0-4, but almost beat Xavier and UConn, two top 25 teams. Depaul looks decent.

JFL is the prototypical bad team star, putting up big stats in games his team is certain to lose, or against weak non-conference opponents. Depaul is not that bad a team anymore, and doesn't need him jacking a dozen contested shots a game. Depaul has winnable home games against Georgetown, Butler and Creighton coming up in the next three weeks, so we will see how this team does. They will beat Georgetown regardless, but if JFL returns and starts launching contested pullups, they will lose two winnable games to Butler and Creighton.

In the last 4 conference games that he's missed, Depaul has scored 0.79, 0.74, 0.72, and 1.0 ppp. As you mentioned he barely played in the 2nd half of that Seton Hall game, but they were up 17 at halftime and only won by 4. They scored 1.40 ppp in the first half and 0.94 ppp in the 2nd half before garbage FTs.

I still disagree with your premise. I think he looks like that kind of guy, but is actually quite efficient thanks to good volume shooting and extremely low turnover rate. He may jack the ball up sometimes, but at least it's not his teammates turning it over or missing a layup. And he makes enough of the shots to make it actually a good idea. He had a 4 game stretch in conference games where he went 15/27 from 3, also wasn't bad from 2, went to the line and made 20 free throws, and had only 10 combined turnovers in the 4 games. That's star stuff. Included in that was the Nova game where he had 34 points on 17 shots. The rest of his team shot 8 for 34 and they lost by 15.

But as you noted, if he doesn't have it that night, he can definitely shoot them out of (or almost out of in the case of Louisville). a winnable game. Last year that was more often the case, but this year the ball is just going in more often.

 

[superjohn]

Kn5

This is still a narrative around here? We need offensive coach and we don’t run an offense?

We are a top 20 offense in Kenpom
Top 25 in ppg in the country

If you watch the game - there is constant motion and sets being run. People need to not just repeat the same stuff the people who don’t know what they are talking about say on here.

Offense was fine, missed so many open threes and bunnies. RJ was great.

 

[ArizonaHsky]

We also once had a coach named Kevin Ali.

Lol Pete Guillen would call him that

 

[jchusky]

does anyone else get frustrated watching Jackson play? I feel like he is passive or out of control, when he is aggressive he turns into another player.

 

[navery12]

does anyone else get frustrated watching Jackson play? I feel like he is passive or out of control, when he is aggressive he turns into another player.

 

[storrsroars]

does anyone else get frustrated watching Jackson play? I feel like he is passive or out of control, when he is aggressive he turns into another player.

I'm usually surprised when he gets stuffed. I always expect him to be at least a half foot above whomever is defending him.

 

[Bonk]

If we play like that we lose to Creighton and get our teeth kicked in by Nova. On a positive note, this was a great opponent to have a "wake up call" against. We played our worst bball and came away with a win. If it spills into Creighton/Nova I'll be concerned though.

 

[superjohn]

I just rewatched parts of the game and man, was it dead at the Wintrust.

If you did a blind comparison between the audio of that game and a random UConn @ East Carolina game, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Not terribly surprised UConn played an uninspiring game in an uninspiring setting.

Thank god we're back at the XL for Tuesday.

It was pretty loud by the UConn bench, almost all Uconn fans doing the U-C-O-N-N chant throughout and UConn fans barking at DePaul fans. Near the end of the game a UConn dad had his little daughter on his shoulders and she was giving the double bird to the DePaul fans for about a minute.

 

[superjohn]

Hartford's never coming up with similar funding to replace XL:

Upon announcement, ESPN reported the expected cost of the 10,000-seat arena, located on Cermak Road between Indiana and Prairie Avenue, across the street from McCormick Place was $173 million.[8] The funding came from three sources: $70 million from the university, $70 million from a McPier bond fund and $33 million from public taxes (e.e., $103 million from public funds).[8] It was built to host concerts, conventions and other events in addition to DePaul Basketball games.[12] As the building approached completion, its capacity was announced as 10,387 seats for basketball.[2]

Funding​

The decision for public participation in the funding of DePaul's athletic facility was controversial because it was announced 6 days prior to the Board of Education's decision to close 50 public schools due to a $1 billion deficit.[13] When the Chicago City Council approved funding on July 24, 2013, the Chicago Reader reported the vote as though money was taken from the schools and spent on the arena because the spending plan included $68 million in budget cuts for the Chicago Public Schools.[14][15] The Chicago Tribune revealed that the land for the project had not yet been acquired four days after the City Hall funding vote.[16]

There's a proposal for a $1.5 billion casino right next to Wintrust. There's a lot of building going on in the South Loop.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

That's not correct at all. He's got a 114 ORTG on the year.

If we compare him to Cole, he gets to the rim more often and finishes better when he does. He can drive left or right. He draws fouls more frequently on a per possession basis. Despite heavier volume, he has a lower turnover rate than Cole (who is pretty low I might add, JFL's is just very low). He's hitting 39% from 3 compared to 33% for Cole on the same volume, many of which are off the dribble pull-ups. He has a decent assist rate, if lower than Cole, but he plays a combo guard role alongside Terry. Depaul's offense is 14 points better per 100 with him on the court. They're a complete dumpster fire on offense without him, as we saw tonight. Nobody can finish or shoot.

They're the equivalent of a top 30 offense with him and 250th without him on the year.

Depaul looked good today. Ewing Theory.