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Demolish the XL center

UConn collects seat donations for two locations. Cancel out the XL and all that seat donation money goes away. I figure that's gotta be at least $1M a year for the $1,000 seats alone. So any discussion of finances without factoring in that money is just bad faith.
Not sure this would go away. The Ath dept would increase the seat donation in keeping with the number of additional games played at Gampel. There may however be a lot more season ticket holders in Hartford, which would be a loss of revenue for the people who did not also become season ticket holders at Gampel if all the games were played there.
 
What is the status of the plans to renovate the XL anyway? There was a lot of talk about a plan at some point but outside of discussions regarding the sports book, there hasn’t been anything on this for at least a year.
 
It is out there. I wish I had the breakdown handy, but did work on this maybe a decade ago. Warde Manuel hated going to Hartford, and I assume Dave Benedict is the same because it costs the school money.

Gampel is free to play in, and the costs are incredibly low to hold and event comparatively.

XL is one very expensive to open up. It's why almost all things non-uconn fail at XL without subsidy. You have to sell out that building for that event (between 9-15k depending on sport) to make money.

UConn with 10000 attendance? That's a money loser.

Lol no people like that hate playing in Hartford because they know what the on campus college sports experience is like elsewhere.

Why doesn’t Auburn play home games in Atlanta?

Why doesn’t Michigan play home games in Detroit?
 
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It is out there. I wish I had the breakdown handy, but did work on this maybe a decade ago. Warde Manuel hated going to Hartford, and I assume Dave Benedict is the same because it costs the school money.

Gampel is free to play in, and the costs are incredibly low to hold and event comparatively.

XL is one very expensive to open up. It's why almost all things non-uconn fail at XL without subsidy. You have to sell out that building for that event (between 9-15k depending on sport) to make money.

UConn with 10000 attendance? That's a money loser.
I’m speculating, but I suspect the 50-50 arrangement will probably be strongly reevaluated after the planned addition of the exterior concourse to Gampel. That should allow the addition of more seats where the existing concourse is, which, in turn will narrow the potential upside of playing in Hartford.
 
This is true. Villanova has a train station in the middle of campus. It's easy for students to get on the train to go to Well's Fargo when they have games in the city.
Build a triangular-route high-speed/maglev rail connection between Hartford, Storrs, and Bradley...and allow cross-registration between campuses to increase access and educational opportunities...see if feeder spokes develop to meet demand for Worcester, Providence, and Springfield to tie in.
 
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Even better that he was the one who posed the esoteric question.
While it's true that I did answer my own plea for computational assistance, I didn't come up with the experiment out of whole cloth. The conversation was already well under way, and I just wanted to bring it into the realm of objectivity, however flawed my first attempt at doing so may have been.
 
If anyone wants to build us a 23,500 seat capacity brandy new arena within 10 minutes of campus, I’d be all in for renting that.
Build it at Depot Campus!
 
I was at Storrs from 2014-2018. I've had season tickets my entire life with my family. I've seen the shift in real time from a party school atmosphere to one that puts sports and fun dead last. I'm sure the nerds who need to study on a Tuesday night are realll big sports fans

Do you want your school to go back to being ranked 5000th in the country like it was 30 years ago? Is having smart students at a flagship state school a bad thing?
 
It's generally clear who the UConn alum are and who aren't.

Many fans are UConn fans because they got to see the team in Hartford. I was able to go to Hartford games as a child. I didn't step foot in Gampel until I was an adult because tix were near impossible to get.

And it wasn't the drive, because we'd go to games at the Fieldhouse before Gampel, and we'd go to soccer games when Morrone was coaching.

this place greatly undervalues the impact playing in Hartford has had in helping UConn become the program it is.

Why doesn't Michigan play in Detroit? Culture for one. They are in an area of the country where people don't look down their noses at State U in favor of private schools. They take pride in their state school, and have a history of athletic excellence that predates the 80s and 90s. They weren't building a program in the 80s, they were already a major athletic department thanks to their football program and huge amount of alums. (Insert Auburn for Michigan and the argument is the same).

Put plainly, they never even had to consider doing that.

Why don't Seton Hall, Providence, and St. John's play all of their games on campus?
 
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Probably because it's 1) in a different state, 2) in a different time zone, and 3) just under a 2 hour drive (without Atlanta traffic)

Still the closest city where a bunch of alumni are.

Why do state lines matter? We have people in here who routinely call for UConn to play home games in Boston and New York.
 
It's generally clear who the UConn alum are and who aren't.

Many fans are UConn fans because they got to see the team in Hartford. I was able to go to Hartford games as a child. I didn't step foot in Gampel until I was an adult because tix were near impossible to get.

And it wasn't the drive, because we'd go to games at the Fieldhouse before Gampel, and we'd go to soccer games when Morrone was coaching.

this place greatly undervalues the impact playing in Hartford has had in helping UConn become the program it is.

Why doesn't Michigan play in Detroit? Culture for one. They are in an area of the country where people don't look down their noses at State U in favor of private schools. They take pride in their state school, and have a history of athletic excellence that predates the 80s and 90s. They weren't building a program in the 80s, they were already a major athletic department thanks to their football program and huge amount of alums. (Insert Auburn for Michigan and the argument is the same).

Put plainly, they never even had to consider doing that.

Why don't Seton Hall, Providence, and St. John's play all of their games on campus?

Seton Hall and Providence don’t have Gampel and St John’s should play more games on campus
 
I still don't get how not having every game at Gampel keeps a student from being a big fan. It wasn't the case for me. I loved Hartford games when I was at Storrs. And I'm pretty sure more students have cars now then back then. I didn't have one. What's changed?
We played the first game in Hartford in "75. When I started buying season tickets in I think '82 we had games there and the field house. Not having all the games on campus did not deter me from from bleeding blue and white. Hartford actually gave me the opportunity to turn my nephews from St. John's fans to UConn fans - which they still are today. UConn grads settle all across the tri-state area. Although I personally preferred Gampel over Hartford I think the fan base would suffer if not given the opportunity to go to a game in Hartford - for kids and adults.
 
Do you want your school to go back to being ranked 5000th in the country like it was 30 years ago? Is having smart students at a flagship state school a bad thing?
I don't care about UConn's academics anymore, I already graduated. I care about basketball. They already got my tuition money, now they get my donations for basketball. I want to see the university do more to support the program. I'm not saying they are doing a bad job, but they can be so much better.

Why is it UConn's responsibility to give dying Hartford a lifeline? Why is UConn always on the losing end of every single sports related decision?
 
This makeup of this thread gives a lot of insight into the question itself. Most posters here would be super enthusiastic about never seeing the inside of the xl center again. There are about 2 posters who are complaining about the implications if we nix the xl center but they’d probably still ending going to games in Gampel if that was the only option.

Would be interested to know the age demographic of those who are all in on the Hartford.
 
Home games need to be on campus.

I’ve been saying that for 20 years. It seems you lose home court advantage when you play at a venue almost an hour away from campus. Most of us have seen games at both places and there’s absolutely no comparison between the two. Duke can play right down the street at the Greensboro Coliseum if they just wanted to sell more tickets. I can’t ever imagine them doing that. There is something unique and intimidating about playing on a on campus venue.
 
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I don't care about UConn's academics anymore, I already graduated. I care about basketball. They already got my tuition money, now they get my donations for basketball. I want to see the university do more to support the program. I'm not saying they are doing a bad job, but they can be so much better.

Why is it UConn's responsibility to give dying Hartford a lifeline? Why is UConn always on the losing end of every single sports related decision?
Eh, your point would stand if you said "I'm retired." I care about UConn's academic reputation because it's on my resume. But, that being said, there are plenty of universities with better academics than UConn with rabid fan bases. Michigan and Notre Dame for example, and a big chunk of the B1G. I don't buy the "nerds in the library" don't care about basketball argument.
 
I was at Storrs from 2014-2018. I've had season tickets my entire life with my family. I've seen the shift in real time from a party school atmosphere to one that puts sports and fun dead last. I'm sure the nerds who need to study on a Tuesday night are realll big sports fans
Yet Duke manages an insane crowd every home game.
 
So we all agree. Design and build a new on-campus arena which hosts both basketball and hockey. The design will allow close seating for basketball and will convert to hockey by retracting bleachers. It will be the best state of the art combo facility in North America.

Next subject.
 
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It's generally clear who the UConn alum are and who aren't.

Many fans are UConn fans because they got to see the team in Hartford. I was able to go to Hartford games as a child. I didn't step foot in Gampel until I was an adult because tix were near impossible to get.

And it wasn't the drive, because we'd go to games at the Fieldhouse before Gampel, and we'd go to soccer games when Morrone was coaching.

this place greatly undervalues the impact playing in Hartford has had in helping UConn become the program it is.

Why doesn't Michigan play in Detroit? Culture for one. They are in an area of the country where people don't look down their noses at State U in favor of private schools. They take pride in their state school, and have a history of athletic excellence that predates the 80s and 90s. They weren't building a program in the 80s, they were already a major athletic department thanks to their football program and huge amount of alums. (Insert Auburn for Michigan and the argument is the same).

Put plainly, they never even had to consider doing that.

Why don't Seton Hall, Providence, and St. John's play all of their games on campus?
Walsh and Alumni Hall seat 1,300-1,500, Alumni/Carnesecca seats 5,500 and they have the world's most famous arena at their disposal where they only play 4 or 5 games a year when Duke, Nova, UConn comes to town.
 
So we all agree. Design and build a new on-campus arena which hosts both basketball and hockey. The design will allow close seating for basketball and will convert to hockey by retracting bleachers. It will be the best state of the art combo facility in North America.

Next subject.
We’ve already started on our on-campus hockey arena, and although it is a little smaller than many of us would like, appears to be a pretty nice facility, although a little pricey for the seating capacity.
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This makeup of this thread gives a lot of insight into the question itself. Most posters here would be super enthusiastic about never seeing the inside of the xl center again. There are about 2 posters who are complaining about the implications if we nix the xl center but they’d probably still ending going to games in Gampel if that was the only option.

Would be interested to know the age demographic of those who are all in on the Hartford.
Honestly, there's fans that aren't willing to drive an extra half hour to watch UConn games and that just sucks.

If you explain this to a Kansas/Kentucky basketball fan or a Big 10/SEC football fan they look at you like you have three heads.
 
If anyone wants to build us a 23,500 seat capacity brandy new arena within 10 minutes of campus, I’d be all in for renting that.
Think about this though, it isn't on campus and doesn't have a campus feel. UK is the state of Kentucky's team.
 
you don't care how your degree is perceived and valued in the job market LOL?
I work in management consulting, my resume speaks for itself at this point...with or without UConn.
 
Eh, your point would stand if you said "I'm retired." I care about UConn's academic reputation because it's on my resume. But, that being said, there are plenty of universities with better academics than UConn with rabid fan bases. Michigan and Notre Dame for example, and a big chunk of the B1G. I don't buy the "nerds in the library" don't care about basketball argument.
Rabid fan bases made up of 100 years of football tradition. We don't fit that mold. We don't have the luxury of converting hundreds of thousands (or millions in some cases) of football fans into basketball fans.
 
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